Cross Class Skills

Any word on if they are planning to really open these up? I would like to see tons more options. It would be nice if people had the ability to create their own class in a way. I've never been a fan of cookie cutter games.

Players will always find a cookie cutter build. And if they do, u will be REQUIRED to use it, regardless of how much customization is possible. Lots of customization is cool, but requires extreme care in balancing, and as soon as a FoTM is being required, it has to be nerfed.

It saddens me that Black Mages can't use Bio, one of the most iconic Black Magicks.

Yeah I'm pissed my warrior can't use hallowed ground

Hallowed Ground is a Job ability, not a class ability, hence why your WAR can't use it (same as how WAR couldn't use it in FFXI either - it was called 'Invincible' then though). Job abilities are only for that particular Job. That's the whole point of them, to specialize, not be used by other classes and Jobs.

Well I meant pre 30 class abilities, not job abilities. I just think it would be fun to be a monk that shot a fireball, or a arcanist that slapped people with his book.

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Originally Posted by Dhaenon

Well I meant pre 30 class abilities, not job abilities. I just think it would be fun to be a monk that shot a fireball, or a arcanist that slapped people with his book.

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Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar does slap people with his/her book if you hit auto attack close enough, its pretty funny to watch

No thanks.

Maybe look at giving PLD some useful cross skills, but apart from that.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

Yeah I'm pissed my warrior can't use hallowed ground

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Forget Hallowed Grownd, warrior can't use sentinel or rampart. It's pretty silly, Paladin can have Warror's 20% boost to armor (Foresight) but Warrior can't have paladins -20% damage taken which is always better than a 20% boost to armor.

And no, OP, please no. 1.0 had exactly what you're asking for and it created two things- 1) Tankable mages and 2) "Fire" burns (pun intended!) where everybody, tank, dps, healer, equipped Fire cast it on a group of mobs. It was the fastest exp you could get without outside help.

I want more job customization, but not to that extent.

That said, there's no reason Warrior can't use half gladiator's arsenal.
There's no reason Paladin't cant use Cure 2, perhaps modified to do decent hp. I'd honestly accept a 600 cure for 300 mp.
There's no reason (seriously) that summoner (scholar can) can't use cleric stance.

etc etc.

That's probably because of Sentinel's origins in FFXIV as an actual class and not an ability (yes I know it's a traditional ability that appeared in past FF games, but in FFXIV 1.0 at launch it was actually a special sub-class you got levels in if you equipped a shield for those classes who could). Hence because GLA/PLD use shields and MRD/WAR doesn't: no Sentinel for you. Rampart probably has the same line of thinking (I'm just pulling things out of my head here, so that might not actually be the reason why the development team did this, but it does seem to ring true.)

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar does slap people with his/her book if you hit auto attack close enough, its pretty funny to watch

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I lol by just imagine that :D
Gotta try it with my ACN once I get home.

They need to work on this big time. The amount of cross class skills you can use on your main jobs is pathetic, and oftentimes you have a hard time figuring out what to use, because what there is, is often crap.

I agree they should allow more cross class skills, they can always reduce their potency or increase cooldown to balance things out.

I would just be happier if they didnt cut the slots of the cross class abilities in half when you get the job at lv30, the class has 6 at lv30 and the job 3 so the class gets 8 at lv50 and the job 5. I do understand the job is more powerful for its specialization but still, those 3 slots would be so much more handy