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    Dhaenon's Avatar
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    Dhaenon Sadis
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Cross Class Skills

    Any word on if they are planning to really open these up? I would like to see tons more options. It would be nice if people had the ability to create their own class in a way. I've never been a fan of cookie cutter games.
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    "Fear, Belief, and Love are phenomena that determine the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish."

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    Raito Izumi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Players will always find a cookie cutter build. And if they do, u will be REQUIRED to use it, regardless of how much customization is possible. Lots of customization is cool, but requires extreme care in balancing, and as soon as a FoTM is being required, it has to be nerfed.
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    It saddens me that Black Mages can't use Bio, one of the most iconic Black Magicks.
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Yeah I'm pissed my warrior can't use hallowed ground
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Hallowed Ground is a Job ability, not a class ability, hence why your WAR can't use it (same as how WAR couldn't use it in FFXI either - it was called 'Invincible' then though). Job abilities are only for that particular Job. That's the whole point of them, to specialize, not be used by other classes and Jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Dhaenon Sadis
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    Well I meant pre 30 class abilities, not job abilities. I just think it would be fun to be a monk that shot a fireball, or a arcanist that slapped people with his book.
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    "Fear, Belief, and Love are phenomena that determine the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish."

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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhaenon View Post
    Well I meant pre 30 class abilities, not job abilities. I just think it would be fun to be a monk that shot a fireball, or a arcanist that slapped people with his book.
    Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar does slap people with his/her book if you hit auto attack close enough, its pretty funny to watch
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    Terius Palemoon
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    No thanks.

    Maybe look at giving PLD some useful cross skills, but apart from that.
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Yeah I'm pissed my warrior can't use hallowed ground
    Forget Hallowed Grownd, warrior can't use sentinel or rampart. It's pretty silly, Paladin can have Warror's 20% boost to armor (Foresight) but Warrior can't have paladins -20% damage taken which is always better than a 20% boost to armor.

    And no, OP, please no. 1.0 had exactly what you're asking for and it created two things- 1) Tankable mages and 2) "Fire" burns (pun intended!) where everybody, tank, dps, healer, equipped Fire cast it on a group of mobs. It was the fastest exp you could get without outside help.

    I want more job customization, but not to that extent.

    That said, there's no reason Warrior can't use half gladiator's arsenal.
    There's no reason Paladin't cant use Cure 2, perhaps modified to do decent hp. I'd honestly accept a 600 cure for 300 mp.
    There's no reason (seriously) that summoner (scholar can) can't use cleric stance.

    etc etc.
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    That's probably because of Sentinel's origins in FFXIV as an actual class and not an ability (yes I know it's a traditional ability that appeared in past FF games, but in FFXIV 1.0 at launch it was actually a special sub-class you got levels in if you equipped a shield for those classes who could). Hence because GLA/PLD use shields and MRD/WAR doesn't: no Sentinel for you. Rampart probably has the same line of thinking (I'm just pulling things out of my head here, so that might not actually be the reason why the development team did this, but it does seem to ring true.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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