Hey guys, i know i am too slow to notice this but i feel really uncomfortable on the drops in coil for bards. Every classes role drop can be share between each role except monk and dragoon. But their accessories is still share-able. Exp: WHM / SCH , PLD / WR , BLM / SMN all the pieces that drop in coil can be share. Let just said about turn 1 & 2 in coil, there are 2 drops in each turn for bard to need where other classes like Tanker had 3 drops ,BLM / SMN in turn 2 have 4 drop and most importantly they are all share-able. You will definitely bringing in 2 tanker 2 bards 2 healers may be a BLM/SM and a DRG/ MNK. I am just here to share and i did not mean to offend any of the role and classes. LOL!!
Bard disadvantages in coil drops
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11-12-2013, 11:46 AMRedclipseBard disadvantages in coil drops
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11-12-2013, 12:39 PMTribunus
More caster/tank/dps classes that use a different main stat than BRD, there is going to be some disparity in gear until a second dexterity class is added.
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11-12-2013, 12:45 PMjoshsecret
luckily all the BiS Coil Brd gear is Turn 4 and there really arent that many.
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11-12-2013, 12:58 PMYoumu
If your group needs to bring two BRDs, theyre just shitty.
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11-12-2013, 01:01 PMRedclipseEven with new dexterity class, the drops is still unfair. I mean look Turn 1 & 2 you will mostly have two bards i mean the common groups but Turn 1 & 2 only had 2 dexterity drops. Therefore you will need two bards to roll the dice. What if the turn does not drop. In turn 4 you might only need one bard but they are 3 drops for bard. I hope you guys understand what i mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribunus
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11-12-2013, 01:05 PMDire
It's rather irrelevant since the only useful Bard drops come from Turns 4 and 5.
Now if you want to complain about the fact that the only useful Bard drops come from Turns 4 and 5... I'd agree it's severely annoying and kind of unfair. -
11-12-2013, 01:07 PMSongi
I can understand what you mean about the lack of bard drops but lets face it, the only needed drops for bards are boots (turn 4) and bracelet (turn 1). The rest are either filler or fluff until you get Myth in those corresponding slots. I've been running coil since pretty much day 1 and only won one drop which was the bracelet. I don't really care since Coil gear wasn't really designed well for bards in the first place. I'm more upset that I'm forced to wait 2 or 3 weeks just to upgrade a single slot of gear and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.
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11-12-2013, 01:07 PMB0nes
T1-5 you only need 1 bard, any more is a waste.
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11-12-2013, 01:22 PMRedclipseSo your group only bring a bard in turn 1 & 2?Quote:
Originally Posted by Youmu
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11-12-2013, 01:24 PMAllyrionMine does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redclipse
Only one bard needed. Paladin is the other interrupt. -
11-12-2013, 01:30 PMRedclipseI know coil drops for bard isn't that great but at least we have a few pieces to cover up the DL set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Songi
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11-12-2013, 02:00 PMZoomieWe run two PLD's for turn 2 interrupts. Not purposefully, it just worked out that we have two PLDs. The timing is actually really nice. PLD 1 pulls and tanks to 2 stacks, PLD 2 interrupts high voltage right about the time that PLD 1 gets the 3rd stack, PLD 2 provokes and starting tanking. Repeat process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyrion
The stack timing works perfectly with high voltage for a 3 stack/PLD interrupt rotation.
We like it hard mode... tank interrupts and duo MNK, lol. -
11-12-2013, 05:44 PMSterob
High voltage cd is at least 30s so doesnt matter. Problem is only allagan boots is better than myth gear
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11-12-2013, 06:29 PMExstal
Well, at least you can get mythology pieces for BiS. Be glad you're not a Monk where majority of your best gear IS from Coil.
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11-12-2013, 06:44 PMSongiYou shouldn't be depending on coil to cover up DL. There's more than enough time to farm up Animal Fat to get Gryphonskin to fill in that gap until Myths eventually fall into place and allow you to make those needed i90 purchases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redclipse
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11-12-2013, 07:07 PMShadowzanon
Listen to what you are just saying. Ok so a healing piece drops, you have 2 healers, regardless of class they have to /SHARE/. This means they need 2 times as much loot to get geared. What about BLM and SUMMONER. oh casting gear drops. ZOMG they have to /SHARE/. There is NO darn disadvantage for Bards.
Good groups need 1 bard tops. If you are depending on 2 bards. you are still /SHARING/ loot just as the 2 healers and the 2 caster dps if your group has 2 of them. There is no discrimination or disadvantage you are just whining for the sake of whining. -
11-12-2013, 07:21 PMAureliami
Healer item has a 10% to drop off boss
Healers only have a 5% chance to get it because there are 2 people who can get it.
Bard item has a 10% to drop off boss
Bard has a 10% to get that item because they're the only one to get it if it drops.
Bards have the advantage in loot. -
11-12-2013, 08:29 PMSongi
Work it out with your other healer on who gets first dibs on what if it drops. Problem solved. Only time anyone should be rolling against another player is when they both are at a crossroads needing the same exact item. I haven't seen that happen yet and it didn't even happen in my group that runs 2 bards. Example: boots dropped 2 weeks ago, I passed and let other bard have them. Now I get them next time they drop, gg everyone goes home happy.
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11-12-2013, 09:23 PMPaikisThe only BiS items for WAR from coil are turn 4/5 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dire