Curious on your views of current game content and upcoming 2.1

Keep in mind these are strictly opinions

If you're going to post the negative, please state the positives too in order to keep the thread balanced. That way it's not deleted at 4 am by the DEV team.


Positive POV - Why I would continue subscription

1. Love how they worked their a**es off to make us a new game in such a short time.

2. How they are constantly working on making fixes to some of the major flaws of the game (no matter how slow, it's getting done)

3. The crafting system - Incredibly fun

Negative POV - Why I would discontinue subscription

1. Running same dungeon for 6 weeks as the only source to get best in slot for my class.

2. The fact that the upcoming content (as late as it is already) is going to be a step backwards from what I've achieved so far - (This is my biggest deal breaker) Sure FC housing is nice, that'll last all of 2 days before It gets dull

3. The unexplained phenomenon as to why guild spammers, sellers and bots have not been banned from the server over a 2 month period. This just seems completely unacceptable. Investigations should be an easy process, there are logs of everything.

4. Although crafting is fun, everyone and their mother has crafting classes to 50, making everything i create to sell for profit utterly useless. The only thing i profited from with a high turnover was food, and that lasted all of 2 weeks. Per Ex: If you walk into Hawkers alley at this moment in time all you will see are Chef hats EVERYWHERE.

5. What the f* is skill speed and spell speed for?



Some of you stopped reading by my 3rd negative point and are ready to tell me to leave if I don't like it. That choice is mine. I just want to know how YOU feel about the game. If you love it and you find my points to be futile, please enlighten me because I want to love the game more than I dislike it. I want to know why you find it amazing.

Negative POV # 2 is a real deal breaker for me as well. Not going to re-sub till more coil turns come out.

I enjoy doing the coils a lot, I think the fights of coil are very well designed and fun to beat!

Pro for 2.1 -
New things for people.

Con for 2.1 -
No personal housing. Only FC. Snooze. The reason I really wanted 2.1 was personal housing.
Now I don't get it to an suppose 6 months from then. Wanted a big ol' mansion and
decorate it like a boss...and have me pets roam and stuff. :/
Dunno why it came out before FC one.

http://i.imgur.com/g58PDT3.jpg

The only thing I dislike about the game is FATEs concept is good, but the whole Zerg thing is stupid.

As far as the whole going backwards thing in 2.1, that's only true with your main job, everything else is on par with Crystal Tower, Primal extreme mode new dungeons ect.

The game as a whole I give it a 8.5/10. I really do enjoy the game.

I want the packet loss and lag gone. That's my biggest gripe about the game atm.
Crafting is nearly useless, you will have to raid coil for most if not all of your BiS, rest is gotten with myth tomes. They should have left the alternative of having your stuff crafted, I don't mind having to farm coil/CT for mats or having to pay more, but I want an alternative and a purpose for crafting. Not that we are going to see any, with the whole "no stress" direction the game is following. I'm surprised coil is actually challenging (for those who haven't done it enough times already)

The current game amounts to capping myths and making as much coil progress as possible. With the lockouts, I can imagine people logging on first 2 days of the week, capping, clearing coil and logging off until next week.

Grind might not be a solution, but the insane leveling speed makes the problem of "too little content" much more obvious.

That said, I like how beautiful the game is. I am enjoying playing my main classes and currently getting fond of tanking as well.

Positive POV
1.) It's a FF game ^^
2.) I'll think of it later

Negative POV
1.) Weekly Myth Cap
2.) Weekly CoB lockout
3.) Crystal Tower will be a down grade
4.) Dungeon EXP sucks/Fates suck and are to easy 70% of people don't know how to play their jobs correctly
5.) No personal housing for 6 months
6.) No new Content to the game for 6months+ (Beside CoB turn 6+)
7.) Crafting is way to easy
8.) No gear Variety
9.) Not enough classes/jobs
I'm sure there are about another 50+ but that's to many to post.

Negative POV:

Can't zoom out far enough to fix dying on AoE's

PoV possitive now:
Mulitclassing, no need to make adds. I only need 1 character to do all be all.
Community, alot of people do really overlook this one. I find this community to be amongst the better ones in the MMO world.
Grinding, all who knows me know I am a massive fan of grinding.
Crafting, never seen a more fun crafting system.

PoV negative now:
Lag, it is distrubing sometimes. It gets better and better though! Good job SE!
Lack of quests between 35-50, more quests here please? FATEs are boring, need fix pronto.
Armor customisation, DL robe is ugly. I am seriously saving myth to replace hat and chest first. It is TOO ugly.
No 24 man, :'(

PoV possitive 2.1
Housing, will be schweet. Going to turn our FCs house into a nice little place where we all can hang around planning shenanigans.
CT, a 24 man raid! Love it.
Good King Moogle Mog!!!!! Do I need to say more?
PvP, will try it out some. I want that PvP armor as a trophy of all of my epiq pwn4g3.

PoV negative 2.1
No private housing, I want a gothic mansion, not sure all in my FC agrees on that, sigh compromising is hard...
CT is only ilvl 85. With some 90 gear it might get alittle too easy.

It really depends on what I see out of the live letter and when 2.1 is actually supposed to come out whether I stick around tbh. I really do like the game so hoping 2.1 really delivers and has some time sinks that are both fun and varied in activity(leveling combat classes, leveling crafting classes, leveling gathering classes are 3 separate things total.)


But what am I saying. 2.1 is supposedly the second coming of Jesus from what I read on these forums. So I'm sure everything will be spectacular and without fault.

Tbh I feel like for a major update, what we know so far doesn't seem " majorish". I have a strong feeling they are going to surprise us with something. Like how they kept Scholar under wraps till when it got leaked. What we know so far is the 2.1 "preview". I believe there's going to be more than what we know currently.

Pre-Patch Preview

A Preview is a sample of what the whole patch will be made of. ( Next live Letter we will see most of what's going to be made available via 2.1)

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Tbh I feel like for a major update, what we know so far doesn't seem " majorish". I have a strong feeling they are going to surprise us with something. Like how they kept Scholar under wraps till when it got leaked. What we know so far is the 2.1 "preview". I believe there's going to be more than what we know currently.

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Introducing 2 game elements seems pretty major to me. Only thing that is lackluster is the raiding department. But I agree, it really feels like they are hiding something from us.

Hopefully the upcoming letter provides enough of a teaser of whatever they may or may not be hiding. I think players definitely need something good out of this letter to keep them interested in waiting for 2.1, even those that would like to be really invested in the game like myself.

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Originally Posted by Lunavi

Introducing 2 game elements seems pretty major to me. Only thing that is lackluster is the raiding department. But I agree, it really feels like they are hiding something from us.

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I know it's a long shot.. Lol but come on Ishgard! :(

Pros 1 - Love the battle system and combo mechanics.

Pros 2 - Love the music, (although some songs are not heard enough and some are not placed where they should.)
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Cons 1 - Hate the current endgame spam instances for tomes! (It's the WoW reputation but called tomes)

Cons 2 - Hate the current endgame LOCKED content ! (It's like saying, we don't want to develop tough open world progressive content, we just want to make them log 1-2 days a week so then can give us the 14$ a month!)

Cons 3 - Hate the leveling system with a passion. (FATE)

Cons 4 - NO open world content/endgame. (NM/HNM/poped bosses)


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TLDR - Don't make the endgame daily/rep/tomes grind a la WoW, it's clearly dying. That system is going away in WoW and in upcomming MMO'S.

(Better have 500k year long subscribers then 1M 3 months subscribers!)

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Cons 3 - Hate the leveling system with a passion. (FATE)

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More ways to level than FATEs it's just the trend and most people follow. I personally hate FATEs and I don't do them, I dungeon/levequests/hunting log/ certain guildhests and got 1-41 in roughly 2 weeks. You don't need to do FATEs it's just this games trend.

PS: I don't understand why people use FATEs when they dislike them. Sure it's fast, but if its not entertaining why bother.

I know, but seriously, not enough sidequests, leveled monk and paladin and i've cleared all of them. Leves are ok, but boring after the same 10 times. Dungeons are boring after 3-5 times.

What i'm gona say might get ppl angry but anyways, this is what i want.

XP Parties^^ make it easier then XI, meaning that 2-4 ppl can "XP party" and have decent amount.

This is an MMO for christ sake ! Soloing should not be better or even equivalent to GRPed content! (Fates are not GPR content)

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XP Parties^^ make it easier then XI, meaning that 2-4 ppl can "XP party" and have decent amount.

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You can, in Mor Dhona I can solo for a good 400 exp a kill in a party it's probably 320 exp.

While I personally can give 2 hoots about the FC housing(I want my own place damnit) the content in 2.1 will be good for some time to me.
The 3 extreme mode fights, moogle mog, 2 HM dungeons(curious to what they are, just hoping its not AK/WP HM) the new dungeon and CT. While yes it is a step back from the Allagan and AF 1.5 gear it's meant to be a supplement for other jobs and if you really need a piece for your main. That and I enjoy having fun and not acting like the game is "super srs guise."
While I wish there was a better way to level outside of FATES as DD since I follow a strict rule for now which is "Dungeons and FATES are for DoW/DoM and leves are for Crafting/Gathering" and on a fairly populated server like Tonberry you pretty much gotta be in a group to get anything above bronze so you can't queue up for a dungeon while FATEing it up. I Also don't want some boring ass 4k an hour pt bull crap that was FFXI.

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If you're going to post the negative, please state the positives too in order to keep the thread balanced. That way it's not deleted at 4 am by the DEV team.

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The mods don't delete posts/threads for being negative. They are only deleted for rule breaking e.g. curse-laden posts etc. People can express negative opinions without being rude/inappropriate.

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Cons 4 - NO open world content/endgame. (NM/HNM/poped bosses)

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That's not entirely true, there is open world content in the form of FATES of all kinds, including rare ones (HNMs). Traditional NMs like XI would never work due to the pace of the game and the claim system. I do feel like guildhests should have been kept in-world and not instanced though (Even still, there needs to be more of them and up the rewards). Just because an NM has a fate bubble around it doesn't mean it's not an NM.

The best thing for me in both XI and XIV is the job system, not needing to create multiple characters to play the different jobs. I like how most content doesn't require several hours of your time like Dynamis originally did in XI, along with the early HNMs which required you to stand around and do nothing for hours to even see, much less fight. I also feel like the main story was very strong for an MMO and one of the game's greatest strengths- I look forward to it continuing in upcoming patches.

The main cons for me are just the bugs and glitches and frequent maintenance. I don't consider lack of content a con as we are still in the early stages and the first major content patch is still incoming. Oh, well the RMT are really annoying too.

I'd like to add a Pro - Lightning is coming to town

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Positive POV
1.) It's a FF game ^^
2.) I'll think of it later

Negative POV
1.) Weekly Myth Cap
2.) Weekly CoB lockout
3.) Crystal Tower will be a down grade
4.) Dungeon EXP sucks/Fates suck and are to easy 70% of people don't know how to play their jobs correctly
5.) No personal housing for 6 months
6.) No new Content to the game for 6months+ (Beside CoB turn 6+)
7.) Crafting is way to easy
8.) No gear Variety
9.) Not enough classes/jobs
I'm sure there are about another 50+ but that's to many to post.

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Pretty much this

Positive:
1) They worked hard to turn the game around. Nice to know that there is new content coming without me having to buy an expansion pack to play it.

2) I can't wait for FC housing and future personal housing.

Negative
1) I don't like how end game is turning out to be. I don't like doing repeated dungeons to turn in currency for a upgrade in gear. I would like to craft the gear instead. I would also like more open world content, but it looks like new content is fates and instanced stuff (not fun).

2) I'm not looking forward to primal fights because if its harder than titan I wont be able to pass it without seasoned adventures who know how to not make minor mistakes also lag likes to fight against players in winning.

Pros:

Pretty graphics
Faster gameplay than 1.0
Different mounts aside from Chocobo
Music is decent

Cons:

Lack of cross-server friend support (I'd like to play with my other friends on different servers for a change versus random DF d-bags)
D-bags you encounter in DF
Long DF wait time for anyone not playing as a Tank
Weekly Myth Cap (obviously in place to retain end-game fanatic subscribers)
Coil of Bahamut Weekly Lockout (obviously in place to retain end-game fanatic subscribers)
Crystal Tower not available at launch?
Getting generic AF gear between levels 45-50 is too easy versus what it was in 1.0.
Running same end-game dungeons for tomes and items
Melting pot look at end-game (Seriously everyone looks the same now by the time they get to 50 with DL gear at least lol)
FATE leveling (the only efficient way to level)
New players being forced to skip cutscenes for people trying to SR a dungeon.
Small inventory system (I personally want a larger one)
RNG is kind of bizarre for gathering material (I can harvest items with 60% rating more successfully than an item with 80%+?)
RMT Spam
Emphasis on Primal battles (Seriously, Extreme mode Primals? Kind of unoriginal... What's next Super Mode Primals?)
Beginning areas pretty much dead since most players are now at end-game (not surprising lol)
"We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding." (Seriously, this statement is just a copy/paste job for any important message from SE or big company. The irony, however, is that we all know you don't actually care about your players/consumers haha).

I could go on, but I will probably get more rage from what I am already going to get for pointing out the obvious flaws that currently exist in this game. :(

PROS:
- Graphics
- Little details like character movements / emotes
- Towns are pretty cool

CONS:
ALL OF GUCCI_Charms +

- Towns are kinda lifeless / nobody has conversations in /shout cause of spammers
- Crafting is useless
- Materia is useless
- no elemental effects (Serious? it's a FF staple to have fire defeat ice, need wind resistance for garuda/ifrit/titan. Have the elementals absorb their element, etc.)
- Varied monsters are few and far between
- Endgame at 50 is extremely shallow and lazy

Now that patch is delayed, I will not be resubbing for a while...

The lack of Vanity slots annoy me.

This is so called 2.1 patch better be some AWESOME UNGODLY contents... the hype is overwhelming.... I am predicting a big huge outcry of disappointment once the patch hit the street.. Lower your expectation people, or you will be sorely disappointed.

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Originally Posted by NoctisCaelus

The lack of Vanity slots annoy me.

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I beileve it's coming in 2.1, a new dev post Reinheart translated!

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I beileve it's coming in 2.1, a new dev post Reinheart translated!

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WTF!? REALLY!?!?! *GOES CHECK*!!!!

Pretty sure it won't be in by 2.1. Actually I think the people behind character design don't even want vanity at all because they want the characters in jobs to have a very specific look and vanity slots act against that.

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Originally Posted by Esmian

Pretty sure it won't be in by 2.1. Actually I think the people behind character design don't even want vanity at all because they want the characters in jobs to have a very specific look and vanity slots act against that.

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Thats pretty contradicting.

2.1 changes I'm psyched about

1. Vanity items - I'm praying they unlock everything for appearances.
2. Dungeon XP boost - I think scaling the dungeon exp up as you increase in level would go a long way. As it stands, going into Haukke Manor at 28 gives you nearly a third of a level each run, but by the time you're trying to get past level 31 it's a long slow haul. A little smoothing out of that curve would be appreciated.

As for FATEs, I like FATEs when done properly. Smaller group of 4 -8 randomly jumping together. When 40 people swarm one area, that cannot possibly be what was designed. If they ever actually set up the FATE's so that they become more powerful the more players are in an area to give the intended level of challenge those FATE swarms are going to be in for a world of pain.

Anyone have any news on the whole "chocobo while in DF queue" thing? I'd really love that to be available sooner rather than later.

My view is irrelevant, I'll play this till it dies and I won't let go of my faith in SE until they fold. Because somewhere in that company they have the magic to give me a First MMO FFXI experience and I'm not going to miss it when/if it comes out.