SE should make a Xbox 1 version of FFXIV at the same time as PS4 version

If I wanted to buy a Xbox 1 instead of a PS4 then I couldn't play the game on Xbox 1. They released FFXI on Xbox 360 and there might be some 360 players getting a XB1 that would want to try FF14.

I see no reason why SE couldn't release a Xbox 1 version.

Microsoft is refusing to allow cross platform play with XBOX and they are demanding an additional subscription to thier XBox live to even play it.

MS is refusing to bend the policies for XIV like the did XI, so no go.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

If I wanted to buy a Xbox 1 instead of a PS4 then I couldn't play the game on Xbox 1. They released FFXI on Xbox 360 and there might be some 360 players getting a XB1 that would want to try FF14.

I see no reason why SE couldn't release a Xbox 1 version.

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Mircosoft wont open up LIVE again for the whole cross-platform thing like they did for XI, so its not Square you need to convince (Yoshi wants too but wont because of M$) its Mircosoft.

"The issue stems from Microsoft's cross-platform gaming rules, which require its Xbox games to connect to Xbox specific servers. Sony's rules are less strict, allowing Square Enix to run servers that allow PS3, PS4 and PC gamers to play together."

so to put it bluntly op, you can forget ff14 ever coming to any Microsoft products. so yeh it not SE fault, its Microsoft and its policies. and no amount of petitions will change Microsoft mind

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Microsoft is refusing to allow cross platform play with XBOX and they are demanding an additional subscription to thier XBox live to even play it.

MS is refusing to bend the policies for XIV like the did XI, so no go.

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If that is true, they can make exceptions to their rules like they did with XI.

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Originally Posted by dbrewer225

so to put it bluntly op, you can forget ff14 ever coming to any Microsoft products. so yeh it not SE fault, its Microsoft and its policies. and no amount of petitions will change Microsoft mind

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Well Windows is a MS product and they do not care if it can communicate with PS3 users.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

If that is true, they can make exceptions to their rules like they did with XI.

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You don't think SE tried? They said NO. They made the exception for XI to get an MMO onto the 360.

http://www.destructoid.com/square-explains-why-there-s-no-final-fantasy-xiv-for-xbox-257794.phtml

After all the utter stupidity that has been the build up to the Xbone, is anyone actually planning to buy one at all? I know I'm not. I have no interest in a gaming system that you have to sign your soul over to microsoft to even boot it up.

They only reason MS allowed FFXI on the 360 was because they wanted Square to make games for the system to help sell some 360's in Japan so wanted some Japanese developers on board with the console that would make games that appeal to the Japanese market. Since then MS has changed their policy regarding XBL and won't allow cross platform play as they have their support now and Japanese devs are making games for the system plus it also seems they have given up on Japan as a market so are less willing to change these policies.

If the XBone tanks and PS4 is destroying it in sales, then we may see MS start bending over and allowing games that require cross platform servers onto the system. Even the Elder Scrolls MMO which is supposed to be coming to XBone is having seperate servers for platforms because of this.

Yoshida has made the right descision in holding off on the XBone version as splitting the community is not a good thing and if a day comes when MS change the policy you can bet FFXIV will be heading straight there as soon as possible to pick up the extra subscribers.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Microsoft is refusing to allow cross platform play with XBOX and they are demanding an additional subscription to thier XBox live to even play it.

MS is refusing to bend the policies for XIV like the did XI, so no go.

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Even if they allowed all that stuff, nobody is going to buy a xbone in Japan. That thing will mainly only sell in the US alone.

It's a product for fools by ripoffs :)

Considering the rules MS has put in place, the only way it could be done without MS reversing their policies is for there to be FFXIV worlds that ONLY XBone players can log into, and ONLY run duty finder to connect to other XBone players, and nobody else.

Does that really seem either functionally or financially in SE's best interests? They shoulder all of the crap just so MS gets a bigger chunk of the profits?

SE should also find a cure for cancer. This way people wont die of cancer.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

If that is true, they can make exceptions to their rules like they did with XI.

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They can, but they won't. Complain to Microsoft, it's not Square's fault and there's nothing they can do about it.

X Box won't ever have an MMO worth playing. I hear they demand a large chunk of the sub fees generated by the MMO. I seriously doubt SE wants to pay a large % of their profit to MS just so they can have the game on the X Box. Idk how much Sony may charge SE for all this but I am guessing its not as much as MS would want.

X Box and PS4 players together and interacting and being ...shudder...near each other? Dear God the amount of fighting and daily arguments over who has the superior system. I can't imagine the horror.

Also PC players already whine about PS3 being here, X Box getting added is just another thing for them to complain about.

While I don't plan on getting FFXIV for my PS4, gonna just play it on my PC, this is one of the many reasons I sold my 360 to GameStop and preordered a PS4. I don't know what I was thinking anyway. I had a PSOne and later a PS2 growing up. God only knows why I switched to an Xbox 360 instead of getting a PS3.

All will be right in the world come 11/15.

As others have said, SE tried, MS didn't want to budge. Go pester them, maybe they'll change their minds. I sincerely doubt it, but feel free to waste your time.

as far as I know TESO will come out on both new consoles, but for the price of all three plattforms having separate servers... people are already far too divided in the stupid console wars. I personally really hope microsoft reconsiders, even if my console of choice will be from sony because they at least don't flat out tell me 'yes we spy on you but you love us for it' :P

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Like anything Money talks.
If there is enough money in it. MS will do it. Otherwise PC and PS is where it will be and I'm OK with that.

XBOX One and Microsoft are just a fail. Stay with Sony.

Only way i use a microsoft product to play this game is on a pc. The XBone will fail.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Well Windows is a MS product and they do not care if it can communicate with PS3 users.

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Yes but on windows the game doesn't use xbox live, unlike xbox.

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Originally Posted by MarkisKyler

Only way i use a microsoft product to play this game is on a pc. The XBone will fail.

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Just an OS, hardly call your whole PC is M$ product.

I personally would hope that SE doesn't release the game for Xbone seeing as how Microsoft is being so anticompetitive and wanting it's completely enclosed ecosystem I think the market would be better without them in it. The already showed that they don't care of the gaming industry as a whole and only care for the money coming into their pockets when they first revealed the Xbone. It went over so bad and left such an outcry at their marketing plan that they had to change it cause their investors knew people wouldn't buy it and it wouldn't sell. Then they changed it but only enough to hopefully bring back some of the more none thinking gaming crowd to use their system. So unless the Xbone is close to being a flop they won't change things and they will just ignore what their customers want. So like I said we're better off without them.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

If that is true, they can make exceptions to their rules like they did with XI.

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Nope. Why? Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed :D
You'll learn someday...

Phil Spencer said in one interview that cross-platform multiplayer "makes a lot of sense". So we still can hope that MS will bring FFXIV to Xbox One. I'm sure SE can easyly port it.

And don't forget that the Xbox one won't be released in Japan anytime soon.

It'll never happen unless Microsoft changes their minds on having their own servers for the game.

No offence Xboxers but from the community I've encountered.... I would not care to share this game with you. Besides there is only so many ways you can possibly combine the name yolohashtag420noscope.

They don't want more baka gaijins playing their game. Plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Yazoo

Phil Spencer said in one interview that cross-platform multiplayer "makes a lot of sense". So we still can hope that MS will bring FFXIV to Xbox One. I'm sure SE can easyly port it.

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Given the structural similarity between the two consoles, porting would be about the easiest thing to do.

Personally, cant wait till we get Steam OS and i can finally do away with Windows and be rid of Microsoft entirely XD

Yeah, FF14 on the Xbone? Aint gonna happen...

When you need to pay a Xbox Live subscribtion, in order to play F2P games (World of tanks), thats just redunculus.

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Originally Posted by dbrewer225

so to put it bluntly op, you can forget ff14 ever coming to any Microsoft products. so yeh it not SE fault, its Microsoft and its policies. and no amount of petitions will change Microsoft mind

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They didn't change the rules for XI they changed the rules after XI and that is why you will never ever see any mmo or game that is cross platform play on a microsoft platform . Even sony and nintendo are happy to share servers on other games soon to be released by indy developers. I'd like to see XIV on the one even if i don't intend to buy it only because it means more people to play with but alas microsoft are far too greedy to allow it.

Much as I hate the MS and their Xbone, if I were SE, I wouldve done it anyway. All these arguments about splitting the community ... yeah, Xboners wont be able to join us on the regular servers, as oppsed to not playing at all? Seems to me the only difference will be the fact that Xbone player wont be supporting the game.

My guess is this has nothing to do with MS policies and more that they dont expect many Xbone owners to buy the game at all, leaving empty servers for Xbone. Thats not good PR for the game which they may need to shut it down anyway (xbox servers). /shrug ... Did XI sell well on the 360?

As far as I'm concerned, KH3 and FFXV should be removed from XB1 anyway - the JRPG crowd is mostly spread across Nintendo and Sony to begin with. The fact that MS is being total dicks about their online policy just adds more fuel to the fire.

Why do you even want to buy an Xbox One?

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Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi

They don't want more baka gaijins playing their game. Plain and simple.

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That word gets thrown around a lot on this forum.

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Originally Posted by Yochanan

They didn't change the rules for XI they changed the rules after XI and that is why you will never ever see any mmo or game that is cross platform play on a microsoft platform . Even sony and nintendo are happy to share servers on other games soon to be released by indy developers. I'd like to see XIV on the one even if i don't intend to buy it only because it means more people to play with but alas microsoft are far too greedy to allow it.

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Actually... they did change the rules just for XI. Before XI was released on the 360 there was another MMO that could have been cross-platform... but wasn't. PSO. It was on the original X-Box, granted, but it had all the hallmarks. Separate multiplayer servers and two fees (one for the game itself, another for Live service). On the 360 was another cross-platform MMO, PSU. Again, it had separate servers and had it's own fee and Live's fee. Sega had segregated the servers into East and West to protect Japanese players from us cheating bastard US players, but couldn't do that with the 360 version because of Microsoft. Microsoft bent over for XI because it was a bigger, older title and Square was a bigger company than Sega. Microsoft tried to get Square to tow the Microsoft line but Square fired back, "My way or the highway."

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Why do you even want to buy an Xbox One?

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Cose gonna catch'em all.

P.S. I have 360, Vita and 3DS, sometimes playing on PS3 at work. And Xbox Live just better than others. PSN made huge step in last 2-3 years, and i'm happy to see this changes.

I still don't understand why an informed consumer would want to buy an Xbox One. It's not that MS might snoop on you while you're not playing games. Microsoft has actually patented methods to do so. Examples: awarding achievements if you watch commercials (link), restricting number of viewers and by age of viewer (link), and even detecting your mood and deciding which ads to show you (link).

Microsoft is also a US company, and as detailed recently, the NSA already regularly monitors unencrypted intranet data inside big corporations such as Google and Yahoo.