Considering the state of the game and how many questions/issues we have, it would be nice if they posted at least a little more frequently.
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11-11-2013, 04:33 AMTaalAzuraWould it be asking too much to have the Devs posted atleast once a day?
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11-11-2013, 04:35 AMJohnist
Devs post about 2-3 times a day Monday-Friday. Let them have their weekends.
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11-11-2013, 04:37 AMNahara
What would they post?
I think they usually do a good job touching on some popular topics, but if there's nothing new to post since the last time they posted on a subject, there's no need to post anything. -
11-11-2013, 04:54 AMAlhanelem
They post most days on weekdays. they have weekends off.
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11-11-2013, 04:58 AMAenomaly
They are usually banning for no real reason. Kind of like a cop that needs to meet a quota. I got banned for a week due to my sig, the word rooster was another word in the beginning albeit still technically correct but they didn't like it, so i changed it to rooster which still makes people think of the word that was originally intended ;p
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11-11-2013, 05:03 AMForteXXI see no problem with them disciplining you over that. Though banning was perhaps a bit harsh. Most forums give special members the ability to edit that stuff, and theyd typically just edit it to something else and put some kind of warning with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aenomaly
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11-11-2013, 05:13 AMAenomaly
I would have been fine with a warning or them simply removing it. Would have made me say "shucks" but a week half ban was a waste of time, took me out of a community i was contributing to, and shows they have no real intention on banning people that cause real havoc. So honestly it did nothing to change my view of them other than they are people whose job is sitting on their butt making really no difference in the community they claim to protect, kind of like a corrupt cop but less cool ;p
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11-11-2013, 05:25 AMFelis
Why should a dev post in the english forum?
You would not know what he write if you can't read japanese
For this reason the community reps exist -
11-11-2013, 05:59 AMRisae
Japanese devs. Englisch =/= Japanese.
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11-11-2013, 06:04 AMReiterpallaschSo you wouldn't have a problem with a cop impounding your car for a week, instead of just giving you a ticket for not paying a parking meter in time?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForteXX
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11-11-2013, 08:32 AMForteXXGlad to see you ignored 2/3 of the post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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11-11-2013, 09:07 AMWelsper59
Devs posting here is difficult. The JP forums usually have a better response frequency, but for good reason. SE is a Japanese company. Information gathering is much simpler/faster when you're closer to the source. The folks here have to get their info from the source, which goes through more steps... particularly the language barrier.
Besides, SE isn't exactly well-known for having a good customer support division. Unless you have a warped sense of "good" to mean something that lacks positive notions. -
11-11-2013, 09:08 AMFraenirVolsung
I think the community reps already post as often as they are allowed to about certain topics. After all, they can only give out the information they've been provided by the dev team.
I think the tone of the OP is not off base though. I think communication from the dev team has fallen off dramatically from where we were at since Yoshi took over 1.0 and through Alpha/Beta. Letters from the Producer are much slower coming in. If you look at the official Dev Blog, we had something like 16 blog posts in July, 17 in August, 9 in September then 3 in October and only 1 so far in November.
We used to get these great, detailed tables from Yoshi in his letters listing all the planned adjustments, balancing, and content additions. It's sad really, because the first letter from Yoshi and Wada after the change in the dev team apologized so much for the lack of communication with the players. Seems like they are heading down that same road again. -
11-11-2013, 10:16 AMSephirahBecause blocking your access to a video game forum is the EXACT same as impounding the thing that gives you the ability to travel, work, get food, visit friends... -_-Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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11-11-2013, 10:29 AMKaedan94
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...rchid=14101280
Dev tracker. It's your friend.
If you're *****ing about not having your thread responded to, being responded to personally, or not having your issue responded to... then send a ticket in. You're just acting entitled and throwing a tantrum. -
11-12-2013, 12:17 AMReiterpallaschYes, it's the EXACT same thing as the punishment not fitting the crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephirah
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11-12-2013, 12:27 AMEightbitThis is just showing the move from development to release to running the game. It's about hype more than useful information.Quote:
Originally Posted by FraenirVolsung
Your example flawed. A parking meter expiring is an accidental thing. Your signature was an obvious use of language that is known to be vulgar. A better example would be knowingly parking in a reserved spot and getting towed. Both you are knowingly violating a rue and both receiving fair punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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11-12-2013, 12:32 AMSalem_RainQuoted for truth. FFXIV:ARR boasts one of the most friendly, active, and supportive development teams in the realm of triple a MMOs. They are constantly replying to our threads on the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnist
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11-12-2013, 12:46 AMLecan
A child thought he was sounding grown up and cool by using a provocative word, got his hand slapped for it and started crying. He refused to learn his lesson and instead thinks that the authority that told him not to be a child in a teen+ community is akin to corrupted police force. And people fall over themselves to apologize to the child? No, he needs to grow up and realize that if he doesn't want to act like an adult, he's going to have to stick to kid-friendly (where that word still wouldn't be allowed) sites. This has nothing to do with cars or police brutality and more to do with 'was taking away the Xbox too serious of a punishment for little Timmy?'
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11-12-2013, 12:53 AMTahldonI think I got lost in your analogy, somewhere along the line there, my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lecan
Either way, I'm more than fine with radio silence if it means the devs are concentrating more on working on the content we're all waiting for. I'm guessing that since things are a bit turbulent as far as content, community, and issues are concerned, would be why no one's saying anything. More people are complaining. The moment a dev posts anything, there's a barrage of players there to complain about it no matter what it is. So, I figure they're just keeping their heads down and working through it. The atmosphere isn't a happy one at the moment, I'm sure everyone realizes this to some degree or another. -
11-12-2013, 12:55 AMTiggyIt's also a straw man argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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11-12-2013, 01:08 AMFraenirVolsungI don't feel like that's a valid point. During 1.0 they were actively developing for and running 1.0 while developing 2.0 on the side, and in my opinion there seemed to be much more communication from the dev team (not just talking about community rep responses). We were getting approximately 2 letters from Yoshi every month, occasional player polls, occasional live letters, roadmaps, and more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eightbit
With a subscription model game you can't afford to build up hype for release and then just turn the hype machine off once the game has launched. Selling copies of your game is a minute part of that model. In order to keep your game profitable you have to keep players subscribing each month. You have to continually communicate with players to show that issues are being addressed and new content is on the way. -
11-12-2013, 01:24 AMKeith_DragoonWe were promised 1 live letter per month up until next patch. There been brief gaps in communications during development and this is just another one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by FraenirVolsung
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11-12-2013, 01:42 AMBalbanes
There are devs and then there are Devs.
The guys that usually post our updates (Camate/Gildrein/Bayohne) are not developers. They are part of the community team. They are told what they can/can't post by their bosses. I'm sure they'd like to respond to a lot more stuff if they could.
Usually you find actual Developers posting in places like the Translation/Bugs section, or when Yoshida posts.
Have you guys forgotten what it was like during the first, what, 7+ years of FFXI? No communication with SE, no official forums at all. Our updates came in the form of patch notes. -
11-12-2013, 01:50 AMMageBlack
We have a wonderful gentleman by the name Reinheart who translates the big dev posts from japanese to english. He does it in his free time so that people can get the info a little sooner. You should check him out.
Reinhearts translation thread.
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Originally Posted by Reinheart
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11-12-2013, 02:00 AMMageBlack3 players polls (one was like a two question poll), Maybe once a month for LftP (they have an archive you can go back and view them), in two years we had 7 live letters, Had two roadmaps for the dev of the game so we had an idea of their gameplan.Quote:
Originally Posted by FraenirVolsung
Back then he had a lot to accomplish and he had to have a measure of transparancy to keep us informed, let us know what he was doing. So, when has the hype turned off? We are still getting Live letter and the written ones, we are getting dev posts every week, we are getting new info about upcoming patches, housing, new FATE's, new dungeons, new primals, more story, etc.
Best way to describe the form posters is by way of the spuddies tagline
"Enough, is never enough!" -
11-12-2013, 06:19 AMMelisennaLanguage is only vulgar because you let yourself be offended by it. Ask yourself, why do mere words that aren't used offensively, taken offensively anyways? I suggest watching the Penn and Teller episode on profanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eightbit
I myself don't find a single word in the entire world offensive on it's own, and neither should you or anyone else.
It's ok to just say "I don't know what a strawman is", you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
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11-12-2013, 06:25 AMC-croftWhile this is correct, you and I both know, that's not how the world and society works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melisenna
Much like saying, "have a good day" and "have a good life" should mean the same thing but for varying length of time, but telling someone have a good life is taken negatively. -
11-12-2013, 06:35 AMAleksandrI just want to say I like your signature. Whenever the forums get to serious I am all: Yay that cat is having fun with chicken and grape soda (it would be juice but it is in a beaker so must be a level 10 alchemist recipe hence grape soda). Which is pretty awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon
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11-12-2013, 06:41 AMJarlax
I am a bit of a forum reader, and find it more entertaining than the paper with my morning coffee. The devs in this game interact more with the community than I have seem many many other mmos do. SO far out of them all SoE is doing a fantastic job with EQ Next and community interaction. Where I actually got a twitter reply for one of my concerns from the lead designer. The reason you don't see a lot of replies with the longer threads are typically two reasons.
1. There was already a thread with that topic that they replied their official answer to. (the most common)
2. Any civilized person is not going to try and have an argument on the internet with a bunch of people who don't agree with you and can be extremely vocal and ridiculously rude.(the reality of it)
I like a lot of their responses that the community does not, it reminds me of the old EQ forums where the dev would pop in on page 100 of a thread and tell everyone LTP your doing it wrong, but I wont tell you how, you have to figure that out. -
11-12-2013, 06:46 AMSixmp
Yes it would be asking too much. Devs are here to develop not to argue with the community which imo is what would happen if they started posting daily.
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11-12-2013, 06:55 AMEd_N_AntsThis amazes me that you put a word on here and the monitors find it offensive but yet someone (not naming names)... Has a hidden picture (click here to show) and and when you click on the link you get man junk in your face... Cause that isn't offensive...!!! Maybe you should just put some hide tags in your signature this way the monitors will think its ok...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aenomaly
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11-12-2013, 06:57 AMMolly_Millions
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11-12-2013, 07:51 AMCynric
What does straw man argument mean? I never heard anyone say that in real life before. It sounds like some kind of made up net lingo people use because they saw it in an article like how people started calling leveling the journey in mmos after a certain article .
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11-12-2013, 07:59 AMRemiRossThat metaphor only works if you're borrowing the cops car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch
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11-12-2013, 08:01 AMC-croftYou don't like Reinhearts subligar? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants
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11-12-2013, 08:08 AMNamasuUh...I'm pretty sure we've been getting 1 live letter per month so far. I know for sure there was one last month for housing. They updated the blog today with the schedule for November live letter. Even if my memory is wrong and they didn't do a live letter on September, they were doing so many live events and interview like at PAX that pretty much fill the gaps. I don't see them going back on that promise so far, but I do agree that it feel like there's a gap of silence here and there if that's what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon