Cross-class skills should be opened up to all Jobs

This game desperately needs more character customization. There are almost no difficult choices when it comes to skills - partly because half the cross skills suck for other classes, and partly because there are so few choices. There is practically zero difference from one character to another other than gear.

If a Bard wants to pick up Swiftcast and Raise instead of DPS cooldowns, he should have that choice. If a tank wants to pick up DPS cooldowns since he spends more time offtanking in an encounter or if he wants more snap threat, he should have that choice. Let us come up with cool utility and ways to play our Jobs so we aren't all the exact same.

The reason it is all very limited and simple is for balance.

Bumping only because OP made me laugh.

It was mostly like this in 1.0 and created some very strong jobs, tankable mages and such...

That said, there should be a lot more room than what there is, and OP is right that many cross-class skills just suck and are false choices. Cure is crap if you're not a white mage, for instance.

if you want to use all cross-class options, use your CLASS not your JOB.
Classes have access to 10 cross-class options.
Jobs are restricted to picking 5, from 2 sub-class options.

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Originally Posted by Steeled

It was mostly like this in 1.0 and created some very strong jobs, tankable mages and such...

That said, there should be a lot more room than what there is, and OP is right that many cross-class skills just suck and are false choices. Cure is crap if you're not a white mage, for instance.

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Cure is crap if you don't have magic damage on your weapon. Thats why plds only cure for 300 when a blm can cure for 600.

Yeah, magic damage and good MND.

And obviously, cure is even crap for 300.

It was opened in 1.0 and the majority of players complained about the lack of class uniqueness.

and I agreed. you shouldn't be able to use every skill when you're not the specific class.

Don't forget traits.

Hmmm no, though Dev have said they will be looking at what cross class abilities area available to each class for balance issues. So possible more or better suited abilities will be available for each class as soon as 2.1.

All dps would use the same set up if there was no limit on cross class skills, blood for blood, raging strikes, internal release, invigorate, fracture.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

Cure is crap if you don't have magic damage on your weapon. Thats why plds only cure for 300 when a blm can cure for 600.

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All weapons have MDMG, it just isn't displayed for physical weapons. Check xivdb. Real reason for Cures being so bad cross-class is being ~150-200 MND under a WHM/SCH. (Edit: Though your exact example there is right; Curtana is way under Stardust Rod in MDMG for obvious reasons)

@OP: In early 1.0 THM was basically the best tank for 3/5 of the open world NMs, had a heal with regen on it, and the ability that allowed them to tank so well (Emulate) could be crossclassed. I tanked Great Buffalo on Archer just because.

It's not bad to want choice, but SE is probably hesitant to go back to that level of freedom after embracing its current design ethic.

There will be a wider repertoire of abilities as the level cap increases, as there will be both new class and job actions.

No need to cross class all the skills to jobs. Jobs are used to specialize the roles in a party. Take of the job gem and play on the base class; that way you can customize some more.