Ugh, the grind...

Hello,

I do not normally post of forums but, yeah, the grind in this game is getting absolutely ridiculous. Some claim that are able to quest up to 40, but I'm stuck at 35 and the only means of leveling up is grinding FATES. My time is limited, and grinding fates takes a few hours to level up (grouped) not to mention how boring it is to just wait till FATEs spawn.

I don't know how anyone finds grinding FATEs fun :confused:

FATES could be an alternative leveling system. But this game needs more quests, no doubt about it.

Take a look at this quest database on the lodestone and search in all the regions for any quests that might be in your level range.

I was leveling up my Summoner and got stuck until I found there was a camp that had a ton of quests at my level. There might just be an area you were unaware of.

Levequests and hunting logs help bunches too. I spammed dungeons for gear so i didnt ever grid fates until level 48.

Thats all good and dandy, but the problem is that quests are level-locked. There's only a very limited amount I can complete... unless I run from zone to zone trying to find quests appropriate for my level.

Searched the database, revisited several zones. All empty.

How's your Hunting Log progress? You could also knock out some Leves. Try asking your FC if anyone needs help with anything. I've gotten levels just helping my FC get through certain things.

Level 35? You should be doing Brayflox runs to maximize your gear and continue learning party mechanics.

Agreed fates are an incredibly boring grind. I have been using dungeons to lvl but with the wait time in between and some of the horrid players it usually means a longer trip lvl to lvl. I have left multiple instances because of ppl who fate grinded their jobs up and cannot play for anything. So that's another draw back of the fate system.

But just try the dungeons and hunting log system. It may take you a lil longer if you use df to get pts but at least its tons better than fates

Yeah, this game needs ALLLLOOOTTT more quests. Especially seing how we have the potential to grind every combative role to 50 on the same character.

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Originally Posted by Silverkin

Yeah, this game needs ALLLLOOOTTT more quests. Especially seing how we have the potential to grind every combative role to 50 on the same character.

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Agreed. High level quests that refine people on playing their roles, so DF at level 50 isn't so hit or miss.

It's weird, on my main I didn't do any fates until 50. Like zero. I had to farm my pants off to get rank / GC weapon once I hit 50 (I mean I know I didn't "have" to but I wanted it). I still finished with about 20ish quests around the 40+ area for my next guy to hit. I hit a brief point around 47-48 where I couldn't continue the main quest because it was level locked, but came back.

Didn't do any leves other than the quest to unlock each tier in each zone.

I think you're missing some.

wait to get to lv50 to know what grind means...

LOL whining about grind....

This game is so easy and fast to level in. I don't know why anyone is complaining. To many people want instant gratification and are not willing to put any effort into it.

Nobody said anything about not wanting to put any effort in.........This game is way too much of a grind, and at lvl 50 it is ridiculous!

wait wait wait, let me get this straight, you can go from 1-50 in lesss than a week in ff14, and you call this "grindy"? Why don't you go hit up some other MMO's that take 1-2 months to hit max level. Quit your bitchin.

If you follow the hunting-log locations for your level, you inevitably get to locations with quests around your level.

Also, a combination between Quests, Dungeons, Hunting Log and some Fates give you a lot of variations. (Since you are on your first class there should be no grind at all... later on your 2. or 3. etc. class its a different story)

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Originally Posted by Dravenkai

wait wait wait, let me get this straight, you can go from 1-50 in lesss than a week in ff14, and you call this "grindy"? Why don't you go hit up some other MMO's that take 1-2 months to hit max level. Quit your bitchin.

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Couldn't agree with you more.

Thats how this game was originally in 1.0 it took at least a month or two to level a job to 50. They have made this game WAY to easy to level up in now.

Yes this game is grindy depending on the person. Having to travel from horizon to waking sands 35 billion times makes this grindy, cause it's boring. Why would they not put it next to a hub? Having to spam stone on every single quest that's not a right clicking quest without fear for death while leveling my healer is grind.
Did you guys play gw2? You can level using so many different ways, there leveling was fun and outside crafting, most methods took the same amount of time roughly.
I just told my brother to buy the game cause i was getting bored, he played the healer up to level 15 and deleted the game saying it's the most boring game he's ever played. yeah unskippable cutscenes that you have to 30 click your way through dialog doesnt help either. I almost missed a duty because of one of these 50 second cutscenes.
not to mention i couldnt talk to my brother in the dungeon privately.. great design in various spots for sure.

im stuck at 43 whm because i still need like 200k for 44 to continue the main quest get a new dungeon and im tired of coerthas fates running all the map for 10k xp each.

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Originally Posted by LuizOFOCA

im stuck at 43 whm because i still need like 200k for 44 to continue the main quest get a new dungeon and im tired of coerthas fates running all the map for 10k xp each.

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Go to Ceruleum Processing plant in N. Thanalan. you'll get that xp much quicker at that level

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Originally Posted by ClockworkSpectre

Couldn't agree with you more.

Thats how this game was originally in 1.0 it took at least a month or two to level a job to 50. They have made this game WAY to easy to level up in now.

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Are you forgetting you could power level in 1.0 as evidenced by Legacy players with all jobs capped out at 50. Levelling additional jobs in this game feels just like that... A job. With the lack of repeatable quests you're forced to chase FATEs around a zone to maximise your levelling potential or run Dungeons till your eyes bleed for a considerably inferior exp reward.

the problem is to do fates over and over is boring...

Grind...FFXIV...Does not compute..

SE have really changed the style of game since FFXI, which is surely the primary spiritual predecessor to FFXIV. FFXI was a GRIND when it first launched, I played for a long time but it took me nearly a year to hit my first 75 (post level cap raising). Before more recent updates the only real way of gaining XP was in a party. You were doing well to get 200XP a mob average (which didn't scale up) and going from 74 to 75 took 42,000 XP. You also were penalized a hefty slice of class specific XP for dying - now that's a grind :)

In FFXIV, I've had no problem mixing Fates, Quests, Dungeons and even the odd spot of mob grinding to get most of the way to 50. I think variety is the key to keeping it interesting, as several previous posters have suggested.

If you urgently want to level up this approach may not appeal, as it's probably not the most efficient use of one's time. However, I'm in no desperate rush to level up. I am not sure how I will feel doing it the second, third, fourth etc times with much fewer quests (I deliberately left some areas alone) but guess I will be able to switch to different things if I'm getting bored levelling up a specific class on Fates. I hope so, anyway.

Compared to other games this grind is relatively tame. Boring, but tame.

You don't need a complex series of addons and maps to tell you to go here, skip this quest chain, stay here and grind a few bars so when you turn in your quests you DING, etc etc.

This is literally just run around with a mob, throw Bio/Aero at a few mobs, then teleport back to camp and let the mob do the work while you get gold-level EXP rewards.

This why you get face palm duty finds.

the dreadful dreadful post lvl 50 grind...........XD

I'd much rather run dungeons than fate grind since I'd rather learn the dungeon and it's bosses. I can only fate grind for seals and exp for a little while before I get bored to tears. The special fates are fun to do occasionally if you are nearby, but the regular fates I avoid entirely unless there is an event going on at the time.

I definitely feel that dungeons need a major boost in experience, especially since the wait time for DPS classes is rather long. Leveling up when the game came out was incredibly easy because there were SO many players all grinding fates, I remember getting 5-10 levels a day, but now that's near impossible. I don't necessarily think it needs to be that much faster, but I can definitely see this turning off new players to the game which will hurt everyone in the long-run. If they increase XP gains from dungeons, and battle leves significantly, I think that should help alleviate the problem.

Do some dungeons, complete your class and GC Hunting Logs, explore the whole maps for the XP awards, do the Guildheists...

Levelling your first class doesn't require a single FATE to reach 50.

When you get to the other classes, then yeah, FATEs are the way to go with the occasionnal dungeon to change the pace (and maybe learn how to play the class *before* getting into end game).

IMO what it REALLY needs is "adventures" like super quests that award more unique items, but much longer than typical quests, this could be especially cool if there were different lines and you couldn't do all of them. Some Epic stuff though would be really cool. Not just end game stuff, but all tiers.

Honestly I don't understand the lack of quests critique for leveling up one class while doing the main quest. I am currently lvl 42 and my current Main Quests area targeted to lvl 39. While doing the main quests I try to do every quest I find, but also FATEs that cross my path and I try to keep up to date my hunting log. Plus every time a new dungeon gets unlocked I use duty finder to do it. And yet I am still finding quests, and have no grinding issues so far..
So maybe it is just a matter of how you play the game, maybe people in a hurry to level up tend to grind more and don't care about the story, which may explain why they can't find new quests, but so far I think if you follow the storyline quests gets you where you need to be.
I don't know about end game yet, but so far I have enjoyed this game and all it has to offer.

The sidequests being locked behind story progression in some area's is abit of a pain post lvl 40 but mixing dungeons and other stuff together should help ease the grind if your stuck using duty finder for the story stuff like dungeons or primals, mix a few fates in and boom you should hit 45+ fairly easily, then darkhold should come in handy for xp alongside the sidequests and leves in mor dhona and the processing plant.