So, is there a technical reason why we can't dye certain armor?

Artifact, Coliseum, the unique sets like Foestriker's and Battlemage... nearly anything endgame that isn't crafted can't be dyed. I'm trying to understand why.

It doesn't require an impressive amount of retexturing. They have the system in place, and the engine to make it work... so the only thing I can think of is a lack of effort.

Artifact has certain sentimental roles, and I understand the need to keep those the color they are... but why can Coliseum garbs which share the same metal texture as Mythril, cannot be dyed? Why can't Cavalry? Have they ever offered a proper explanation for this? I can see Artifact 1 requiring the sentimental need to keep the design color, but shouldn't Artifact 2 allow for dyeing?

As a Paladin of the Maelstrom, it breaks my heart that my future is set in a world of blue regalia when I am supposed to be a "free" Paladin as a theme. Would having the choice of color really hurt the game in any way?

Working as intended. SE wants us to appreciate the original armor designs. They might allow dyes somewhere along the line.

I've never seen them explain anything. I'm not even being sarcastic. If you think about all the things they have done from their Monetary policy to copyright restrictions to OBT NDA to mechanics and Nerfs, they never give any explanations. Why is it everyone I talk to needs to use Paypal to process their sub, SE won't process it? We don't know, they don't tell us.

their taste is superior to yours

I used my credit card with no problem at all ,..once I figured what to do that is

I'm guessing theyll release a new batch of 'super' dyes for special equips that will require some grindy resource like tomestones to purchase/craft/whatever, in order to keep you subbing etc.

I just think its weird that we can dye certain AK pieces, but not others. Hoplite Sabotans can be dyed, but not any other hoplite stuff. Same with Toxotes kecks, demagoge mask etc. A friend said that the reason you could dye it was because the model was teh exact same as other white, dyable gear, or something like that. Still, why...

Laziness and/or arrogance.

Laziness if they can't be bothered.
Arrogance, if they think their color choices are somehow sacrosanct.

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So, is there a technical reason why we can't dye certain armor?

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There is. The skins have to be designed with masks and materials with instructions ("scripts" for materials to make them dynamic) to allow them to be changed to arbitrary colors.
Gear that can't be dyed wasn't designed with dyeing in mind, either purposely or as an oversight.

I think it was a design decision to make only crafted (craftable) items customizable, because crafting itself is meant to provide customization.

They may not have "adapted" certain pieces to the dye system, but that would be a very quick fix. Certain designs that can't be dyed are almost certainly set up to be dyeable internally though, such as the AF Black Mage set. Two of the NPCs in the BLM story quest are wearing AF BLM gear of color schemes that were clearly generated by the dye system.

Regardless the they need to loosen up on the dye restrictions. The only people "enjoying" the default colors will stick with them; everyone else is just being annoyed by this outdated restriction.

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Originally Posted by Krystalynn

As a Paladin of the Maelstrom, it breaks my heart that my future is set in a world of blue regalia when I am supposed to be a "free" Paladin as a theme. Would having the choice of color really hurt the game in any way?

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Jobs have very iconic appearances, and it just makes sense to me that SE wants to preserve those very iconic appearances in the armor they create specifically for those jobs. You can most definitely place the Maelstrom emblem on your gear, but I wouldn't expect Square to allow much more than that.

As for the other sets of gear... Yeah, I guess I could agree that it would be nice to dye the other dungeon sets, even if I think their appearance is perfectly fine as is. In a way, I suppose it could be kinda like the "artifact" gear for the crafting and gathering classes: looks great without dyeing, but looks okay if you dye it anyway.

Really wish more games would get on the charter customization kick instead of having everyone look like clones. The freaking forced cowls and full plate armor even takes away the one thing that does make characters somewhat unique from one another.

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Originally Posted by Anayrie

Really wish more games would get on the charter customization kick instead of having everyone look like clones. The freaking forced cowls and full plate armor even takes away the one thing that does make characters somewhat unique from one another.

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This. In general there's little variety with armor designs throughout your leveling experience but at least you can dye those, the endgame armor being mostly undyeable unless you spend a good amount of gil and those are only ilvl 70 gear is really awful. I understand the thing with hero's armor being iconic and stuff but everyone will mostly look the same at some point, many are already due to those horrendous darklight pieces. :c

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

There is. The skins have to be designed with masks and materials with instructions ("scripts" for materials to make them dynamic) to allow them to be changed to arbitrary colors.
Gear that can't be dyed wasn't designed with dyeing in mind, either purposely or as an oversight.

I think it was a design decision to make only crafted (craftable) items customizable, because crafting itself is meant to provide customization.

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Perhaps I'm simply being cynical here, but I can't help but think that it's not a coincidence that most of the best and best looking armors in the game are undyable. By having players gravitate towards these, it allows them reduce the memory overhead used storing more armor model variation that you would otherwise see.

Yeah I'm dreading getting my Darklight set. But it's part of the progression :/ At least the higher level crafting outfits look cool enough to be seen in.

Same, my GF is a huge fan of Black Mages. However, she keeps the set from stone vigil since her AR gear is black. While she rather dons the Blue robe and Yellow pointy hat. The designs are awesome, they surely are. But why I cannot dye it is a mysterie to me.

Despite the almost daily maintenance periods for this game, I don't foresee them changing this for months either. Even if they planned on doing it, so this is just super depressing to me. It makes me not want to hit endgame honestly. I'm supposed to be excited to get gear, but I'm honestly dreading it. As a red loving Paladin, Artifact 2 is just icky. The only set I can even think of enjoying is Allagan, but heaven knows if I'll ever see that. ~//~

Here's hoping vanity slots can ease the pain.

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Originally Posted by GilbertLapine

I'm guessing theyll release a new batch of 'super' dyes for special equips that will require some grindy resource like tomestones to purchase/craft/whatever, in order to keep you subbing etc.

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If so. FML iyyaaaaaaaaaa >.<

Thay have explained this several times. AF's will never be dyed because the design is connected to the job lore and feel. A White mage AF can't be black and purple.

Dungeon drops like the battlemage tunic are suposed to be unique items so the color and designs are fixed, crafted items on the other hand are created by people all over Eorzea in mass so those can be dyed or bought of any colour.

Bascially, it's a lore thing. Some may like it, some may not but that's how it is and don't expect it to change.

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

Thay have explained this several times. AF's will never be dyed because the design is connected to the job lore and feel. A White mage AF can't be black and purple.

Dungeon drops like the battlemage tunic are suposed to be unique items so the color and designs are fixed, crafted items on the other hand are created by people all over Eorzea in mass so those can be dyed or bought of any colour.

Bascially, it's a lore thing. Some may like it, some may not but that's how it is and don't expect it to change.

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Good to now, but I think I'll keep pressing the issue anyways. Enough pressure from the fanbase and they might at least lift the restrictions on the dungeon gear. There's heavy division on the AF gear, but only a tiny minority seem to favor locking out the rest of the gear. Maybe Square should stop being stubborn and listen.

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Originally Posted by Anayrie

Really wish more games would get on the charter customization kick instead of having everyone look like clones. The freaking forced cowls and full plate armor even takes away the one thing that does make characters somewhat unique from one another.

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Vanity system is coming fo this
in 2.2 I think