Dragoon Lore.

I would love it if the Dev team would give more on the Lore on Dragoons. Keep this thread up if you would also like to know the lore of the dragoon or other classes.

I would rather a clarification on what a Dragoon actually is. Estinien, Alberic, and the Player were unique as Azure Dragoons. Their powers don't exactly represent the standard of Dragoons. Meanwhile there are quests that refer to all Ishgardian knights as Dragoons, even if they don't use a lance.

I would assume an Azure Dragoon is the pinnacle of being a Dragoon being empowered by the soul (eye) itself. I assume the other knights are just those that have trained to fight like an Azure Dragoon. We have an inner dragon because of the soul being a part of us. But I agree moar pls.

It is the most interesting lore in the game. It really stands out.
Cliffhanger end.
Hint of reconciliation...
What a tease.

That's the fun thing about Jobs such as Warrior, Monk and Dragoon. They come from the other city-states (or in Warrior's case the mountains/volcanoes further to the north with the Hellsguard Clans) and we don't have access to them yet. As for Dragoon it most definitely will be one of the first to get fleshed out and probably have one of the deepest storylines..we all love dragons after all. Ishgard, Nidhogg and Dragoons, it will be interesting to see where the story goes since Nidhogg is suppose to be awake.

*Opens a dusty old Tome*

For those interested, here's some history on the origins of the Dragoons!

"Built atop the peaks of the Xelphatol Mountains, the city of Ishgard stands as a symbol of Elezen pride and honor. It is said that a millennia ago the Goddess Halone appeared before the most courageous Elezen, Thordan, and bade him lead Her chosen people to the peak where Ishgard stands still today. But there stood a great chasm between Thordan and Halone's chosen peak. So they set to making a great bridge to cross.

It was then that a great shadow descended upon them and the land darkened under the shadow of the great wyrm Nidhogg. Courageous Thordan took up lance against the colossal Nidhogg, but the power of the dragon bewitched Thordan's men and they betrayed him to the dragon, casting him into the chasm. Overcome with anguish over what he had done, Haldrath son of Thordan, broke Nidhogg's spell and took up his sire's lance and hurled himself at the great wyrm. With a mighty thrust, Haldrath's hand, guided by Halone, plunged his sire's lance into Nidhogg's eye, prizing it from the dragon. With a terrible roar Nidhogg took wing and fled to the skies. And so it was, the first Dragoon was born."

- Excerpt from "The City States of Hydaelyn" by Scholar Sounsyy.

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Speaking of, I was wondering if the story goes into more detail on the ability of the dragons to bewitch. How do they do it? What exactly do they have control over? Are there heretics by choice or are they more of a counter-movement? I'm only 38 on my DRG, so please excuse my ignorance.

I'm just going by what I've seen in-game atm but...

It appears as though it is only Nidhogg, the great Wyrm of legend that has the ability mentally influence those around it. Ordinary "Heretics" seem to have become disillusioned with Ishgard's Crusade and the Inquisitors, thus either siding with dragons or denouncing Ishgard and being branded a Heretic anyway (then thrown of a cliff).

However, that's just a Theory of mine from my exploration of Coerthas.

Now I must away! *poof*

Ishgardians seem to have a preference of throwing people off cliffs it seems.

Now I can not see "Jump" the same again...
Its like suicide anyways in some boss fights T_T

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Originally Posted by RoboPadre

Speaking of, I was wondering if the story goes into more detail on the ability of the dragons to bewitch. How do they do it? What exactly do they have control over? Are there heretics by choice or are they more of a counter-movement? I'm only 38 on my DRG, so please excuse my ignorance.

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Now, I'm no expert, but I think it may be similar to how Ifrit is able to 'brainwash' with his blue flames. I think the stranger thing is how Haldrath broke the spell in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Now, I'm no expert, but I think it may be similar to how Ifrit is able to 'brainwash' with his blue flames. I think the stranger thing is how Haldrath broke the spell in the first place.

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Perhaps it might be closer to Bahamut's ability to manipulate and control Nael van Darnus in 1.0

If Niddy was a Primal, it'd be Tempering.
But as he isn't... it must be their magic (dragon innate or not).

The dragon-kin are smart and can cast magic it seems, according to the story-line quest, and can transform themselves to looking like Elezen.
(Or was it the other way round - wasn't too clear).

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Originally Posted by VisRalis

If Niddy was a Primal, it'd be Tempering.
But as he isn't... it must be their magic (dragon innate or not).

The dragon-kin are smart and can cast magic it seems, according to the story-line quest, and can transform themselves to looking like Elezen.
(Or was it the other way round - wasn't too clear).

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its the other way around. the false inquisitor used glamour to temporarily change his form.

Well, technically, they don't so much brainwash as they completely overwhelm with emotion. Need to remember that when... Well, you're L38 I won't spoil who tells you that, but when you talk to someone else they mention how he ALMOST was taken over by Niddhogg, in his moment of weakness he could feel all the rage and hathred of the dragon, emotions which far overwhelmed his mind and he risked forgetting who himself was.
Same thing that happens to a second person, who essentially begs for power in name of revenge in exchange for servitude.

Also need to remember one particular side-quest wherein you need to deal with a heretic that's imprisioned, who's gone downright insane saying his masters demand some sort of sacrifice and he wants you to bring him some... I forget what sort of animal so he can burn it in offering (guard tells you to bring him a rat, though, to shut him up).

Yet, the other heretics you deal with don't behave quite this way, though, they're pretty sane if not... Exactly as much zealots as every Ishgardian is.

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its the other way around. the false inquisitor used glamour to temporarily change his form.

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:o Sweet-Twelves combined, then it'd be awesome to be a heretic then hahaha.

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Now, I'm no expert, but I think it may be similar to how Ifrit is able to 'brainwash' with his blue flames. I think the stranger thing is how Haldrath broke the spell in the first place.

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The 'spell' was probably fear. After all who wouldn't be scared of a giant Wyrm while you're on a mountain with little to no place to hide. Nidhogg is on an entire different level from the other dragons, they may have fought several in their journey to establish a new home (our speculation for the Ishgard foundation is a faction of Elezen leaving the Shroud before building Gelmorra which eventually leads to founding Gridania). And who knows if Nidhogg was known about before the battle took place. As for the dragon's control on Estinein I think it may be more tied into the Wyrm's Eye and some kind of power Nidhogg may have over his lost eye. Not exactly tempering but influences on the mind, a common comparison is Bahamut's influence over Nael van Darnus.

As for 'Heretics' and being on the Dragons' side in this "war," I think its more of a choosing. Whether its out of fear of the Dragons winning or people themselves wanting to turn against their own, traitors always pop up even with such propaganda that Ishgard puts out.

Do remember that the term "Dragoon" is an English colloquialism for the job/class known as "Dragon Knight," in its direct translation.

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According to Alberic, Azure Dragoons are Dragon Knights (Ishgardian spear knights) whom take the power of the Dragons into themselves, while fighting off and steeling themselves to the mind influencing side effects that the Dragons can cause; with JUSTICE.

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...whom take the power of the Dragons into themselves, while fighting off and steeling themselves to the mind influencing side effects that the Dragons can cause; with JUSTICE.

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In other words, we're full of awesome :cool:

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Also need to remember one particular side-quest wherein you need to deal with a heretic that's imprisioned, who's gone downright insane saying his masters demand some sort of sacrifice and he wants you to bring him some

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I recently did this quest and I do believe that his particular case can be interpreted differently. The NPC there spoke something to the effect that normal seeming folk show their colors after being interegated by an inquisitor. I took that to be an aftereffect of extreme psychological torture.

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Originally Posted by RoboPadre

I recently did this quest and I do believe that his particular case can be interpreted differently. The NPC there spoke something to the effect that normal seeming folk show their colors after being interegated by an inquisitor. I took that to be an aftereffect of extreme psychological torture.

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When I did that quest, I was so intrigued by that character - secretly I hope we get captured and interrogated to some degree in Ishgard. I want to see what happens!

There is also a Levequest in Mor Dhona where you fight a "heretic". The leve suggests that one of three possibilities for the heretic's motives is because of what he witnessed in the interrogation chambers. He was also a former dragoon.

Ishgard seems really warped to me. I eagerly anticipate the day the gates open.