Class Q&A guide

I noticed theres a lot of FAQ about classes, so I plan to have this guide cover some of them. :)

Upon request I also added another FAQ section in this thread so heres the link there! :) Other FAQs

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Class FAQs


Q1: Why can't I change from my current class to another class even though I have the level requirements needed?


A: When you first start up FFXIV you are started with a class off the bat then to change to another class the game has two requirements before you can do that.

The first requirement is to reach lvl 10 and the second requirement is to finish your lvl 10 class quest at your chosen class guild. (A quick side-note; Story and Class quest are separate, Class quests will be at your class's guild leader npc till you finish your lvl 30 class quest which will move you over to your job npc.)



Q2: I often see players on the same class as myself use skills from other classes, how are they able to do this?


A: Certain skills are able cross-over to other classes, in order to check which skill can cross-over to which class, place your pointer over the skill for a description that will show the affinity that tells the player which class can use the selected skill.

As for cross skill slots, When you have a job's soul crystal equipped, you get one cross-class slot for every 10 levels. When you don't have a soul crystal equipped, you get one slot for every 5 levels.

Below is a list of current jobs open and obtainable from getting lvl 30 and finishing the level 30 class quest and job quest as well as the level and class-wise requirements for them and what classes they can cross-class skills from.

Job List:
Warrior: lvl 30 Marauder, lvl 15 Gladiator. Can use cross-class from sub and Pugilist

Paladin: lvl 30 Gladiator, lvl 15 Conjurer. Can use cross-class from sub and Marauder

Monk: lvl 30 Pugilist, lvl 15 Lancer. Can use cross-class from sub and Marauder

Dragoon: lvl 30 Lancer, lvl 15 Marauder. Can use cross-class from sub and Pugilist

Bard: lvl 30 Archer, lvl 15 Pugilist. Can use cross-class from sub and Lancer

White mage: lvl 30 Conjurer, lvl 15 Arcanist. Can use cross-class from sub and Thaumaturge

Black mage: lvl 30 Thaumaturge, lvl 15 Archer. Can use cross-class from sub and Arcanist

Summoner: lvl 30 Arcanist, lvl 15 Thaumaturge. Can use cross-class from sub and Archer

Scholar: lvl 30 Arcanist, lvl 15 Conjurer. Can use cross-class from sub and Thaumaturge


Q3: I have recently reached level 10 and gained bonus points but I have no idea where to put my points into!


A: Bonus points have a very slight affect against your actual class, they are useful but do not stress over being perfect with them, you will not see someone hitting up a 500 dmg difference over a difference between 1 misplaced bonus point.

( Acns can do a hybrid between Int and Mnd if Smn and Sch is desired however Int is recommended first for a starter Acn.)


Q4: Will my class bonus points share between every class and job I level?


A: Nope! they don't. Every class will have separate bonus point that is only shared with them and the job(s) that they can change into at that moment! Right now all classes but arcanist have 1 job to share points with, meaning Arcanist's are given the option of sharing their bonuses between both (Currently a DoT DPS with a Tanky and two DPS-based summons) Summoner and Scholar (Healer with support-based Summons)


Q5: I've heard that in order to change to achieve my job stone I must have a lvl 15 sub-class but I am unsure of which I should level, which should I level to aquire my stone.


A: Yes! every job requires their main class to have their main class to lvl 30 then another to 15 and for the player to have completed their lvl 30 class quest.


So far this is all I can remember seeing asked but I'd love to have some more questions to add here if anyone can think of some and if anyone has any good class/job guide with skill rotations to look over please feel free to ask me to link them here! :)

You might also want to add that every class's bonus points are separate from each other.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

You might also want to add that every class's bonus points are separate from each other.

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I will! thanks! :)

I would italicize that you need to complete the level 30 class quest, to draw attention to it. Also mention that the class quests are different from main story quests. People seem to confuse the two. I've seen a lot of threads from people who just forget about their class quests (which probably explains why I've run into MRDs who didn't use Tomahawk) and think that reaching level 30 in the story quests is what they needed to do.

Another thing you may want to add is which secondary class each job can pull from aside from the one they need in order to unlock the job, and what skills the other classes offer. As BRD, I know there are many useful cross class skills I'm constantly using from both PGL and LNC.

You could also put in information about retainers and chocobos, which are frequently asked. Mention that you need to finish Copperbell Mines in the story and return to Waking Sands to get retainers. And that to get a Chocobo you need to beat Ifrit, join a Grand Company and acquire 2000 company seals thru FATEs and Leves. Could also put that to level your Chocobo you need to a do a level 30 quest in South Shroud that you get from Ducette.

@Naberrie:

Thanks! I did take the advice on the italicize and if you look you'll notice I mentioned affinity which is what shows what class can use what skills, I'll try to make clear of what the affinity actually means though! :)

(I think this is something many classes benefit from not just bard by the way, as a white mage I often find that swiftcast and eye for an eye is pretty nice, this is more true for swiftcast rather than eye though.) ^^

The other stuff I think I may add it on the side but I'll try to separate the two a bit making it as a other FAQ thing so that people aren't confused seeing this is a FAQ mainly intended for class questions, not so much for chocobos and story stuff.

But I do think that your suggestions are very helpful and I will try to add as much as I can so thank you! :)

Other FAQs

Q1: I often find my inventory filled with items, is there another place I could store any of these items?

A: Yes there is! there is a personal npc that you can hire for free to store your items and sell items on the market for you that is called a retainer.

To gain the rights to hire a retainer you'll need to be level 17 and have finished copperbell mines after you finish the mines you'll have an npc ask you to go to waking sands.

If you go to the waking sands then finish talking to the people there, they will open retainers feature for you then you'll just need to hire one at any main city market place by speaking with the Retainer Vocate! :) (The maximum number of retainers that can be hired is 2, I think Legacy may be able to hold 3 but I'd need a Legacy player to verify this to be sure.)


Map of where the waking sands is:

http://i.imgur.com/Sv84eTV.png?2

Q2: I have opened my grand company but I still never got a chocobo, how can I get my feathery steed?


A: Once you've opened grand company, after finishing the story quest Lord of the Inferno which will be your first big boss battle.

You'll have the option of going into the grand company store and buying the Chocobo Issuance for 2,000 company seals, company seals is a currency that you'll use in the shop. In order to gain seals, you can do three things; Fate battles, Craft and trade in items to your GC or Gather items and trade them to your GC.

In order to trade items in, you can talk to the officer next to the shop GC npc and do supply and provision missions.


Q3: I was in duty finder then I accidently closed the join dungeon menu, how can I bring it back up?


A: In order to bring the menu back up, simply just hit the duty finder search tag on your quest finder and the menu will pop right back up! :)


Q4: So I just paid for 60 months worth of gameplay and got my swimsuit voucher from veteran rewards but where do I turn it at?


A: You may turn in your Swimsuit Voucher at the NPC called Aelina in Mor Dhona, for a lower level'd character I think the safer route to get there would be from North Shroud in Black shroud area (Gridania starter areas) to Coerthas Central Highlands then going into Mor Dhona from there.

Maps to help with the journey there:

North Shroud
http://i.imgur.com/JPNo9wa.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/9Qt3TIZ.png?1


Coerthas Highlands
http://i.imgur.com/C5UUmQB.png?1

Mor Dhona The NPC will be in Revevant's Toll
http://i.imgur.com/VGaQRFp.png?1

Just like the first one, if theres any questions or suggestions, please go ahead and ask or suggest them! I'll try my best to answer and add anything!

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Originally Posted by Lillia

@Naberrie:

(I think this is something many classes benefit from not just bard by the way, as a white mage I often find that swiftcast and eye for an eye is pretty nice, this is more true for swiftcast rather than eye though.) ^^

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Agree. My WHM is 45 and I use Swiftcast every time I play the job. I leveled THM to 26 just for Swiftcast after a bad experience playing SCH in Brayflox. As far as I'm concerned Swiftcast is a must-have for healers after 30 as it's just so useful. Getting THM to 26 was probably the best thing I ever did.

BLM requires archer at 15, not arcanist.

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Originally Posted by Lillia

Pie and Vit make a smaller difference in change when compared to Str, Dex, Int and Mnd so generally people go for those stats over Pie and Vit! ( Acns can do a hybrid between Int and Mnd if Smn and Sch is desired however Int is recommended first for a starter Acn.)

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This is a great guide for beginners but I don't think tanks should put points into Str over Vit. There are 2 reasons:
1. Vitality will help you more as a tank. Your job as a tank is to take hits, not DPS.
2. Strength increases your DPS at thresholds. So if you only put 5 points in strength but need 20 strength to get to the next threshold, those points are wasted.

Putting points into the right places isn't crucial if you have gear to make up for it but 30 points of vitality is a difference of 450 HP.

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Originally Posted by xRitzx

This is a great guide for beginners but I don't think tanks should put points into Str over Vit. There are 2 reasons:
1. Vitality will help you more as a tank. Your job as a tank is to take hits, not DPS.
2. Strength increases your DPS at thresholds. So if you only put 5 points in strength but need 20 strength to get to the next threshold, those points are wasted.

Putting points into the right places isn't crucial if you have gear to make up for it but 30 points of vitality is a difference of 450 HP.

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STR also decreases how much dmg you take in when parrying/blocking, which is why I said that. When you look at the increase on something like VIT and PIE it is much much less of an improvement when you compare what the other stats show on the table according to what I've heard.

I will change it though, just in case. Seeing that I was simply going by what I was mostly led to believe from what I heard from tanks etc. :)

thanks for the compliment on the guide too! :D I figured I'd make it to help people who normally spend time wondering about these questions.

TC some corrections or added info
Q2: I often see players on the same class as myself use skills from other classes, how are they able to do this?


A: Certain skills are listed as cross-class, check skill description which ones. These skills are equip-able on all base classes. You get 1 equip slot for every 5 levels. For Jobs, they are restricted to 2 class only plus your 1st 5 skill slots are taken up with your Job skills, that are learned as you do your job quests.


Job List:
Warrior: lvl 30 Marauder, lvl 15 Gladiator. Can use cross-class from sub and Pugilist

Paladin: lvl 30 Gladiator, lvl 15 Conjurer. Can use cross-class from sub and Marauder

Monk: lvl 30 Pugilist, lvl 15 Lancer. Can use cross-class from sub and Marauder

Dragoon: lvl 30 Lancer, lvl 15 Marauder. Can use cross-class from sub and Pugilist

Bard: lvl 30 Archer, lvl 15 Pugilist. Can use cross-class from sub and Lancer

White mage: lvl 30 Conjurer, lvl 15 Arcanist. Can use cross-class from sub and Thaumaturge

Black mage: lvl 30 Thaumaturge, lvl 15 Archer. Can use cross-class from sub and Arcanist

Summoner: lvl 30 Arcanist, lvl 15 Thaumaturge. Can use cross-class from sub and Archer

Scholar: lvl 30 Arcanist, lvl 15 Conjurer. Can use cross-class from sub and Thaumaturge

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Originally Posted by xRitzx

This is a great guide for beginners but I don't think tanks should put points into Str over Vit. There are 2 reasons:
1. Vitality will help you more as a tank. Your job as a tank is to take hits, not DPS.
2. Strength increases your DPS at thresholds. So if you only put 5 points in strength but need 20 strength to get to the next threshold, those points are wasted.

Putting points into the right places isn't crucial if you have gear to make up for it but 30 points of vitality is a difference of 450 HP.

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Points for putting some in Str.
1. STR effects your damage reduction from parry/block in addition to higher attack damage
2. The extra damage will help you tank better during early levels by helping hold the Hate with your higher damage output.
3. The current threshold for maxing you damage reduction with coil/myth gear is 9 bonus points in STR.
4. These points can be respec-ed easily with an item that cost 10,000 seals at your GC. There not much to spend your seals on unless your doing crafting, but even then as long as you do the daily GC supply/provision for all the gathering/crafting class you will get enough seal to cover your xp manual costs.

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Originally Posted by Highlanderx

Q2: I often see players on the same class as myself use skills from other classes, how are they able to do this?


A: Certain skills are listed as cross-class, check skill description which ones. These skills are equip-able on all base classes. You get 1 equip slot for every 5 levels. For Jobs, they are restricted to 2 class only plus your 1st 5 skill slots are taken up with your Job skills, that are learned as you do your job quests.


Job List:
Warrior: lvl 30 Marauder, lvl 15 Gladiator. Can use cross-class from sub and Pugilist

Paladin: lvl 30 Gladiator, lvl 15 Conjurer. Can use cross-class from sub and Marauder

Monk: lvl 30 Pugilist, lvl 15 Lancer. Can use cross-class from sub and Marauder

Dragoon: lvl 30 Lancer, lvl 15 Marauder. Can use cross-class from sub and Pugilist

Bard: lvl 30 Archer, lvl 15 Pugilist. Can use cross-class from sub and Lancer

White mage: lvl 30 Conjurer, lvl 15 Arcanist. Can use cross-class from sub and Thaumaturge

Black mage: lvl 30 Thaumaturge, lvl 15 Archer. Can use cross-class from sub and Arcanist

Summoner: lvl 30 Arcanist, lvl 15 Thaumaturge. Can use cross-class from sub and Archer

Scholar: lvl 30 Arcanist, lvl 15 Conjurer. Can use cross-class from sub and Thaumaturge
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Thanks friend! I'll be adding this. :)

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Originally Posted by Lillia

I will change it though, just in case. Seeing that I was simply going by what I was mostly led to believe from what I heard from tanks etc. :)

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Thanks for changing it. I read the tanking forums and some players made the mistake of going full strength or even half strength and chose to respec with 10,000 seals later to maximize their stats for Titan Hard Mode which is where I'm currently at. I basically only know about tanks but it's generally best to invest in vitality as a tank because every point of vitality will always give slight improvement. As highlander suggested, there are exceptions though where investing in strength will get you past the current threshold which will give you slightly better block/parry and higher attack damage.

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Originally Posted by Eirva

BLM requires archer at 15, not arcanist.

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Yeah, thanks. >.< someone already corrected that by the time I saw this post, lol.

I always get confused with BLM sub because well >.> Archer and Arcanist can both be pulled from and its just attack of the A named classes from there. xD

Btw really good post just may have a few things to add if you would like.

As it is not apparent and coming from other games may be worth mentioning that there is no racial bonuses in this game so picking race will not effect class choice and that there is only a small % even at level 50 less than 1% I think was quoted in stats.

Also as this one threw me when I was new to the game been playing about 2 days when I noticed lol there are no factions as such in this game don't know if that counts as a f a q but thought worth mentioning :).

Keep up the good work with the post :)

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Originally Posted by Lillia

A: Certain skills are listed as cross-class, check skill description which ones. These skills are equip-able on all base classes. You get 1 equip slot for every 5 levels. For Jobs, they are restricted to 2 class only plus your 1st 5 skill slots are taken up with your Job skills, that are learned as you do your job quests.

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The way this is worded could lead to some incorrect impressions.

A level 30 CNJ has 6 slots for cross-class abilities. A level 35 CNJ has 7. If the first five slots are taken up by job skills, a 30 WHM would have 1 slot and a 35 WHM would have 2 slots. Or, if only the first slots are taken up with the skills you actually have, both a 30 WHM and a 35 WHM would have 5 slots (6-1 and 7-2 respectively).

Neither of those is the case. Both a 30 WHM and a 35 WHM have 3 slots, because Jobs simply get 1 slot per 10 levels (instead of per 5 levels).

if i chose GLAD at character creation,what would be the secondary class i take to lvl 15? and what would my final class ultimately be?

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Originally Posted by Pendragon72

if i chose GLAD at character creation,what would be the secondary class i take to lvl 15? and what would my final class ultimately be?

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You could take Gladiator to 30 and Conjurer to 15 to become a Paladin, or take Gladiator to 15 and Marauder to 30 to become a Warrior. Which is done at character creation and which is done later is irrelevant so long as you meet the level requirements of each.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon72

if i chose GLAD at character creation,what would be the secondary class i take to lvl 15? and what would my final class ultimately be?

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Basically what Niwashi said! You'd end up leveling cnj to 15 and getting paladin as your change for glad. :)

But if you ever want to change classes, you can once you finish your level 10 class quest for glad so don't worry about any restrictions during creation and go with what you think you'll like the best! :)

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Originally Posted by Bixby

The way this is worded could lead to some incorrect impressions.

A level 30 CNJ has 6 slots for cross-class abilities. A level 35 CNJ has 7. If the first five slots are taken up by job skills, a 30 WHM would have 1 slot and a 35 WHM would have 2 slots. Or, if only the first slots are taken up with the skills you actually have, both a 30 WHM and a 35 WHM would have 5 slots (6-1 and 7-2 respectively).

Neither of those is the case. Both a 30 WHM and a 35 WHM have 3 slots, because Jobs simply get 1 slot per 10 levels (instead of per 5 levels).

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alright, thanks I'll change it up. ^^;

Update: I changed it and put it into my own words! I don't know if its less confusing but I tried to explain it the best I could so... I hope its acceptable enough.

Very helpful thankyou now i know which class i need to level as a Pug to get to monk.

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Originally Posted by AntiSpin

Very helpful thankyou now i know which class i need to level as a Pug to get to monk.

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yay! np <3! :D

Bump for justice.

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Originally Posted by Lillia

alright, thanks I'll change it up. ^^;

Update: I changed it and put it into my own words! I don't know if its less confusing but I tried to explain it the best I could so... I hope its acceptable enough.

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And also I never got back to this.

You're still saying that you get cross class skills for every 5 levels (with some other math along with it) on a job. Nothing happens (with regard to cross-class skills) every 5 levels for jobs. Level 30-39, you have 3 cross class slots. Level 40-49, 4. Level 50, 5. If you have a soul crystal equipped and get level synced to 20-29, you'll have 2 slots.

When you have a soul crystal equipped, you get one cross-class slot for every 10 levels. When you don't have a soul crystal equipped, you get one slot for every 5 levels. Minimum one slot.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Bump for justice.

And also I never got back to this.

You're still saying that you get cross class skills for every 5 levels (with some other math along with it) on a job. Nothing happens (with regard to cross-class skills) every 5 levels for jobs. Level 30-39, you have 3 cross class slots. Level 40-49, 4. Level 50, 5. If you have a soul crystal equipped and get level synced to 20-29, you'll have 2 slots.

When you have a soul crystal equipped, you get one cross-class slot for every 10 levels. When you don't have a soul crystal equipped, you get one slot for every 5 levels. Minimum one slot.

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It's fixed now. :)