SE , Endgame Just Isnt There - Are you going to Re-Sub

So , i really wanted to give this game a go. However, i feel all i actually do is run 8 AK runs then GG im done for the week.
I could gear my other classes or do a craft but why bother when crafting is useless now i have my Relics. I feel that the only 2 instances people ever run are AK/WP like WTF. Where the hell are all the Hardmodes Instances, where is Endgame ,where are the dailys.
Can never do coil unless im forced to logon at a certain time and well being in Aus thats never , like cmon
What are players thoughts on the game . Will you be resubbing ?

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Originally Posted by Keyblade

So , i really wanted to give this game a go. However, i feel all i actually do is run 8 AK runs then GG im done for the week.
I could gear my other classes or do a craft but why bother when crafting is useless now i have my Relics. I feel that the only 2 instances people ever run are AK/WP like WTF. Where the hell are all the Hardmodes Instances, where is Endgame ,where are the dailys.
Can never do coil unless im forced to logon at a certain time and well being in Aus thats never , like cmon
What are players thoughts on the game . Will you be resubbing ?

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If you are not happy with the game, dont play. Not sure what is your point of posting this type ranting topic here if you are not happy.

The game hasn't even been out two months or received it's first major version update. Enjoy your AK's and WP's.

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Originally Posted by Keyblade

So , i really wanted to give this game a go. However, i feel all i actually do is run 8 AK runs then GG im done for the week.
I could gear my other classes or do a craft but why bother when crafting is useless now i have my Relics. I feel that the only 2 instances people ever run are AK/WP like WTF. Where the hell are all the Hardmodes Instances, where is Endgame ,where are the dailys.
Can never do coil unless im forced to logon at a certain time and well being in Aus thats never , like cmon
What are players thoughts on the game . Will you be resubbing ?

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Same old thread just a different day.

Take a break. Re-sub once new content is added. You could save yourself ~$30 by skipping two months and waiting till Jan to re-sub.

Am I going to resub? Yes

Why? Because personally at the start of a MMO I don't go straight to endgame for that reason. ( there is normally little endgame in a lot of MMOs).

Which is why I am leveling other classes and not one to pass the time, for patches to add said end-game.

hard mode istances in 2.1 - check.
endgame (binding coil) - check. I don't know why you don't to this, but THERE is, and don't doing it it's your own business. Find a guild who run in your hours ? Transfer to another server? Whatever.

I've subbed for three months.

I plan to fish for all of that.

Edit: what the hell is my character wearing.

Get in line. http://youtu.be/i0GW0Vnr9Yc

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SE did nothing wrong and can never do anything wrong

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That I don't agree with, even companies make slip ups from time to time. We are all human.

Another troll thread. 3 posts ever, offering a high level criticism of the game without any solutions, and just waiting for people to bite.

Is this an internet thing? When did it become cool or fun to do this? I don't understand. I can't wrap my mind around creating a post with garbage just to get a rise out of people.

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

hard mode istances in 2.1 - check.
endgame (binding coil) - check. I don't know why you don't to this, but THERE is, and don't doing it it's your own business. Find a guild who run in your hours ? Transfer to another server? Whatever.

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I do Coil.
Its ONE dungeon, split it into five turns that you can only beat once a week, it is still ONE dungeon.
I expected more than one dungeon from a (pay to play) game that "starts at level 50"... in fact i expected half a dozen of "hard mode" dungeons dropping myth and different sets of gear. And no AK and WP dont count as "hard mode" dungeons and the gear they drop is borderline useless.
Sorry for being so naive, but the OP is damn right.

What happened to beastmen strongholds for example? Why they are so damn easy? They are not even worth exping my chocobo.

We need hard stuff to fight FOR THE HECK OF IT, and not just to collect gear.

The game would be just perfect if it was buy to play, but its not.
FFXIV doesnt suck, in fact its a good game, but why to pay a sub for it? I cant find a reason besides playing with my friends.

According to SE there are 1.5 million subs. So if you were to take the average population of EU, NA, JP, and AUS and assume that an equal proportion from each region plays the game, you could easily deduce that AUS is the smallest sub base of any of the players of this game. I feel for you, but being in AUS and unwilling to play Crazy hours, maybe this game isn't for you.

Also we knew in beta that Crystal Tower and more dungeons wouldn't be out until the 2.1 and 2.2 patches went live. People knew that before purchasing this game and purchased it anyway, then decided to complain about it anyway. You guys are all right, but it's irrelevant. We knew before buying this game that the content wouldn't be out yet. If you didn't know that then you were not active in beta and you did not do research before your purchase. 2.1 and 2.2 has been public knowledge since Phase 3 Beta. That or you do not get or do not read the producer live letters.

And yeah, I will resub. I will play this game until something better comes out. And from the looks of the industry lately, end game or no engame, this is the best MMO to hit the market in half a decade if 2.1 and 2.2 are even a little good.

180 day sub /

For the price of a single "AAA" game I'm set for 6 months.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

We knew before buying this game that the content wouldn't be out yet. If you didn't know that then you were not active in beta and you did not do research before your purchase. 2.1 and 2.2 has been public knowledge since Phase 3 Beta.

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Ive said this same thing many times. I do not get people and why they are constantly complaining about this issue knowing exactly what content the game had at release and when new content was going to be available.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

That I don't agree with, even companies make slip ups from time to time. We are all human.

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It was tough, but he was using sarcasm.
As you can go at a relative Snail's Pace and this game is too easy.
No one wants to go at Extreme 120 year old grandma pace for a game they are subbing for.
I, for one, want to get my monies worth and not log on 1 hour per day.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

I do Coil.
Its ONE dungeon, split it into five turns that you can only beat once a week, it is still ONE dungeon.

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I'd say that any dungeons that drop tomes used for DL or AF count as endgame dungeons.

Not saying that FFXIV has a lot of endgame, but you also don't need to go into hyperbole.

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Originally Posted by Arriverderci

It was tough, but he was using sarcasm.
As you can go at a relative Snail's Pace and this game is too easy.
No one wants to go at Extreme 120 year old grandma pace for a game they are subbing for.
I, for one, want to get my monies worth and not log on 1 hour per day.

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I did get that the other guy was using sarcasm, but people need to stop pretending that the only way to enjoy the game is to rush to endgame, grind dungeons and then come to the forums to complain about lack of content.

I'll let it lapse after this months sub runs out. No real reason to play. I just clear up to turn 4 and finish up my myth tomes, then log. I'll be happy enough with my gear after this months sub ends.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

I'd say that any dungeons that drop tomes used for DL or AF count as endgame dungeons.

Not saying that FFXIV has a lot of endgame, but you also don't need to go into hyperbole.

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If you think anything that drops myth is "endgame", then yeah this game has plenty of endgame content.

I guess its a matter of perspective.

I already payed for 90 days, and will re-sub once that's up. I haven't geared out all the classes I play, and haven't even touched coil. There's plenty for me to do.

How dare you unsubscribe from this premium gaming experience that has less endgame content than 1.23b had at the very end. So what if it's missing Skirmish, Hamlet Defense, Beastmen Stronghold coffers and bosses, Caravan defense, Faction leves, a hard mode final boss and a longer more challenging if admittedly also more grindy and luck based relic quest including an extreme Primal, pfffft those were boring anyway. The minions and mounts more than make up for it.

What are you poor and impatient? 2.1 is just almost two months away, best $25 you'll throw away for the privilege of having no new worthwhile content until then.

I have stopped for 5 days now and honestly...I don't miss the game at all.

Guess I will log in to hit myths cap each week and then play some thing else rest of the time until 2.1.

Pretty much, that patch will be the deciding factor if I continue paying the sub here or not.

After 2 months of AK and knowing there is at least 2 more to go doing the same thing is sort of drepessing to think about.

Something needs to be done about coil -- the fact that it, chimera, and hydra can't be df'd is ridiculous. Just don't get how the devs justify it.

The games pretty good. I actually took my time in this one limited my play time to 2 hours a day since early access. I have several 50's and a crafting class to 50. I've done everything to coil. The OP is correct there is a content problem in the game. It would make sense if they were releasing something that is Post Coil but they are releasing a precoil 24 man this to me is a real head scratcher. Content progression is whats needed with some filler content to reduce the grind fest that is AK/WP stone grind.

The weird part is if I were running AK/WP to get a specific piece of gear I could do it for months and not really bat an eye at it. But running it for currency to purchase gear i'm slowly losing interest.

There are a lot of things about the game I like.

1. Crafting I like the Mechanics of it.
2. I love that I only need one character to do everything.
3. Pace of Combat I love it I don't have to spam keys non stop.

Really, it seems like the difference between those that enjoy the game and those that don't is that those of us who enjoy the game are having fun with the content that is there rather than focusing on what is not. If you look for something to complain about, you'll find it. If that's your thing, good luck with your next game.

wait, you farm 8 ak for tomes

meaning you don't do coil? and you are talking about end game

oh god..

I'm bound to this game for 6 months. HELP ME

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Really, it seems like the difference between those that enjoy the game and those that don't is that those of us who enjoy the game are having fun with the content that is there rather than focusing on what is not. If you look for something to complain about, you'll find it. If that's your thing, good luck with your next game.

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I would rather say that the ones who are bored have already done the content. Next you will say they rushed it, but some people did not rush and just accomplish things at a faster rate.

For example various systems or boss mechanics might be and are very similar to other mmo's. So when more experienced players hit those walls (such as the wall in AK), it's very easy to see the challenge, come up with a solution based on experience and defeat it quickly.

Edit: BF4 comes out tomorrow so my week is saved.

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Originally Posted by diulalasing

wait, you farm 8 ak for tomes

meaning you don't do coil? and you are talking about end game

oh god..

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Yes i do AK as being in AUS means unless i wana login at a ridiculous time , most of my FC work and I cant do Coil. It needs to be put in the Duty Finder. Not waking up at 3am to run Coil. This game im sorry but isnt that fun ill dedicate 3am gameplay for that
Square Enix need to fix this game. I want to Re-Sub. Honestly do . But can you not see my point. The only 2 dungeons people ever run now is AK/WP. Coil shouts super rare at the times im online and GG waiting till the weekend cause by then half the server is at like Turn 3 so i cnt run.
IF your telling me for something to do i should fate grind another job or do a worthless craft for 0 benefit , then well um no.. 2.1 all i can say better be damn amazing.

Heyyyyyy..............HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY......................HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

This party sucks ass and I'm leaving!

I just wanted everyone to know because I'm deprived of attention and hugs!

:rolleyes:

Seriously though, I'm right with Ms. Millions, I am enjoying the game and I still have plenty to do.
I'm a 180 day subscriber, and I intend to keep on playing ^_^

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Really, it seems like the difference between those that enjoy the game and those that don't is that those of us who enjoy the game are having fun with the content that is there rather than focusing on what is not. If you look for something to complain about, you'll find it. If that's your thing, good luck with your next game.

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Just logged in, doing my best to enjoy the game (which i shouldnt even do if the game was really entertaining).
And after a couple of WP runs, im already bored, but of course its my fault and i shouldnt bring the issue on the forum... i mean its not like i am a paying customer!

Stop categorizing people and lets discuss?

I guess I should have quit vanilla WoW, or said f it when 11 first came out and there was only sky.... I mean seriously SE if you are going to put out a unfinished game with little to no end game ( 2 dungeons, 3 primals and a baby raid dont count or anything) you should just throw yourself in the fire. I mean who does this now adays? We need all the end game content and we need it NOAW! /sarcasm off. I do have to ask all these people saying that this game sucks and end game sucks, what did you expect from a new MMO? Every game starts out this way, WoW didnt have 90 levels and zillions of zones when it was released in 2004 it took 9 years to get like that. Oh thats right we live in the now generation. Sigh. Well don't let the door hit your bum on the way out. I fully intend to stay for a good while. End game will come.

I can't wait to be fully stacked with ilvl90 gear on my PLD so I can start working on my next class. My FC will be challeneging BC turn 5 soon can't wait. Inbetween I'm getting all my other jobs to 50 (mnk & drg left) as well as my doh and dol. When I am not doing any of that I am helping my fc gear up so they can experience end game. So far we have 4 groups in total on coil. 3 of which are making good progression and on which is new and starting their progress.

I have subbed for 180 days. Can't beat $5 and some change sub fee.

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Originally Posted by velrek2013

I would rather say that the ones who are bored have already done the content. Next you will say they rushed it, but some people did not rush and just accomplish things at a faster rate.

For example various systems or boss mechanics might be and are very similar to other mmo's. So when more experienced players hit those walls (such as the wall in AK), it's very easy to see the challenge, come up with a solution based on experience and defeat it quickly.

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As far as I know, only one FC has "completed" the game.

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Originally Posted by Keyblade

I could gear my other classes or do a craft but why bother when crafting is useless now i have my Relics.

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So you got other people to meld your gear for you, that's what I call rushing.
Personally I want the game to last because it's not everyday we get a final fantasy mmo, as such I will be leveling my own crafting to meld my own materia for my own relics.
That's my choice, you made yours.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

Just logged in, doing my best to enjoy the game (which i shouldnt even do if the game was really entertaining).
And after a couple of WP runs, im already bored, but of course its my fault and i shouldnt bring the issue on the forum... i mean its not like i am a paying customer!

Stop categorizing people and lets discuss?

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Whether you enjoy something or not is completely subjective. That's all I'm saying. I enjoy the game, and you do not. So what's the difference? It's all about perspective.

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Originally Posted by TheMoonflow

So you got other people to meld your gear for you, that's what I call rushing.

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So asking a crafter to meld stuff for you (which is absolutely normal in any other MMO) equals to "rushing", you should do everything on your own.

Makes sense... oh wait it doesnt!

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, of course.

I'm going to get straight to the point:

There is already 100000000000 threads like this.

Done.

You clearly have to get all 50 crafts and gathering before you even attempt getting a relic, silly rushers.

I love Final Fantasy, period.