Tips on how to beat Titan HM with DF

Spam DF till you get group where everyone has the following requirements:


1. Full Darklight gear or equivalent.
2. Gurada weapon or better.
3. Good connection
4. Know the fight ( watched videos etc etc been to at least phase 5 and beyond )
5. Paladin MT , Warrior OT preferred for more dps .

Pretty simple really , but good luck trying to find that group .

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Originally Posted by Grailer

Pretty simple really , but good luck trying to find that group .

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^Indeed, "good luck".

This is actually pretty accurate.

DF for titan really sucks and is much better to run with premade grp or your FC. If you are DFing titan you basically wanna queue until you get the "magical pug".

Yes of course ppl have done him in bikini's however you are forgetting while they lose chest piece they are using relic +1 weps, using voice communication, have successfully done the fight many times, and the rest of their gear is most likely ilvl90 or at very least ilvl70.

You forgot to mention patience. Even if and when you've finally found "the perfect group", someone just leaves after one or two fails. So yeah, if you account for everything, DF titan kills could mean one in hundred or maybe a thousand. Queuing as dps could take weeks if you're unlucky.

An easier method would be to join an fc or make a premade group and replace the noobs until you find the right mix. Titan DF is for practice. That's all it is. When you're completely new, you have to go into DF and practice and wipe until you're good enough to join a premade team. Then with a premade team, hopefully they can get to p5 on a more consistent basis so you can learn it. Once you have a team proficient in p5, you're ready to kick titan's butt and acquire the ultimate weapon.

GC weapon is enough. Healers should dps for most of heart phase too.

Or be lucky. Due to boredom, I and my friends join DF to help people very frequently.

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

GC weapon is enough. Healers should dps for most of heart phase too.

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I've actually never seen the GC weapon provide enough dps unless everyone else is relic or better. It does require mostly i70 gear. Including the weapon.

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

I've actually never seen the GC weapon provide enough dps unless everyone else is relic or better. It does require mostly i70 gear. Including the weapon.

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The DPS check on heart is not harsh at all as long as people know how to DPS and the healers join in. Most people haven't a clue how to do that and vastly underperform with their level of gear though.

A good player will easily have enough with GC weapon. Don't even need DL/AK tier gear to be honest.

LOL. Yea a GC weapon Is good enough I have done the fight with pug groups many time, as long as people know there job and don't die in the fight (do to there error) its an easy fight even if your in AK gear even with no DL.

Yesterday we carried a SMN that I guarantee had know idea what she was doing as far as playing her job went, which hurt our dps, but at least she didn't die.

Absolute minimum gear-wise is AK gear with DL accessories and Ifrit HM weapon (ilvl 60). Anything below that is unacceptable. These things are so easy to get and people like the above saying what they say is exactly why undergeared folks waltz right in and the party fails every time. Also what I don't see mentioned enough is that on the Heart phase, the healers have to cleanse the debuff or else you will not have enough DPS.

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

Healers should dps for most of heart phase too.

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Not really required, maybe you can do SCH dpsing and WHM healing, but all healers dpsing is really a bad idea. At least one healer has to focus on healing, because in p4 you receive a lot more damage than p1-3.
And for the weapon, healers can do it with GC weapon, even if a ilv70 one would really raise the success rate, and dps just can't make it in GC gear, they need to deal damage. I've beaten the p4 without LBing with a WAR OT and 4 dps all in ilv70 weapon, even if I wiped a few times before getting it right.
The MT doesn't need a good weapon, he's just there to distract the boss.

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Originally Posted by coffeerox

Absolute minimum gear-wise is AK gear with DL accessories and Ifrit HM weapon (ilvl 60). Anything below that is unacceptable. These things are so easy to get and people like the above saying what they say is exactly why undergeared folks waltz right in and the party fails every time. Also what I don't see mentioned enough is that on the Heart phase, the healers have to cleanse the debuff or else you will not have enough DPS.

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I did it with 2 DL pieces, 4 AK and the rest plain.
Only dps need such gear, healers and tanks can do Titan in full ilv50-60 gear.

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Originally Posted by YanDere

Not really required, maybe you can do SCH dpsing and WHM healing, but all healers dpsing is really a bad idea. At least one healer has to focus on healing, because in p4 you receive a lot more damage than p1-3.
And for the weapon, healers can do it with GC weapon, even if a ilv70 one would really raise the success rate, and dps just can't make it in GC gear, they need to deal damage. I've beaten the p4 without LBing with a WAR OT and 4 dps all in ilv70 weapon, even if I wiped a few times before getting it right.
The MT doesn't need a good weapon, he's just there to distract the boss.

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Stick a DS Medica(2) and Regen on the tank at the start of heart, and then DPS until you see Weights. After Weight, top people off, cure through Tumult, top off/regen tank and DPS again. The outgoing damage in p4 is low.

I had a really hard time keeping the tank up in the final phase after heart with full DL and Garuda weapon. He takes way too much damage too fast. The other healer with me was similarly geared. Once I got my relic it was that much easier. I honestly cannot imagine healing it in my AF gear with a GC weapon. I'd be completely dependent on having the other healer carry me. Same goes for the tank. The damage mitigation with an undergeared tank is just not there to absorb the heavy damage they take after heart phase.

Tank is the only one I'll say definitely needs reasonably good gear - you need a good enough weapon to keep threat from the healers (as it's a threat-heavy fight) and being sturdy doesn't hurt.

You don't need fantastic gear to heal though - just good timing. In the last phase in particular, you need to know when to raid heal and when to tank heal - the damage alternates in a way. Even if people are injured from bomb blasts, you don't want to heal them immediately - in bomb phase you must focus on just curebombing tank and keeping him at full, for instance.

I did titan with DF with an english party we wipe a few times, but we did it on the 3th time. We had a tank and healer solo the last bit of HP left. English party's are much better getting this one done because they communicate better and that was the key to winning this fight.

I gave up after 154 tries in DF. Cost me 150k.
When I past 100 tries, I thought if I average 1k per attempt. If I go past 150 attempts...it would validate my spending at least in my mind.

Tried at various times during the day figuring I'd get different people. No luck.

Just bought my run. They ran it with 3 tanks (I was the 3rd), 2 heals and 3 dps. I lasted the whole fight, didn't get hit by anything. Bombs, Landslide, anything...the problem is getting 7 others in DF who can do the same. Fight is not really challenging other than standing where you shouldn't be. Which sadly even with big graphical notices...people still can't do.

I just gave up trying.

*edited to correct DPS members from 5 to 3

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Originally Posted by Rendaelyne

They ran it with 3 tanks (I was the 3rd), 2 heals and 5 dps.

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Uhm, of course you would have killed it with 10 people.....

sorry, still used to WoW and 10 mans...

3 tanks, 2 heals and 3 dps....better?

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Originally Posted by Rendaelyne

I gave up after 154 tries in DF. Cost me 150k.

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yep im almost considering farming for some gil then buying titan carry . I know I can do titan because ive tanked him to 5% before . It's just the scrubs with less than 3k hp who join DF groups and the unskilled players with good gear that's killing it for me .

Actually its making me turn nasty , I think ive done about 150 runs now and most cant even kill heart because they are undergeared or die in first wave of plumes .

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

I had a really hard time keeping the tank up in the final phase after heart with full DL and Garuda weapon. He takes way too much damage too fast. The other healer with me was similarly geared. Once I got my relic it was that much easier. I honestly cannot imagine healing it in my AF gear with a GC weapon. I'd be completely dependent on having the other healer carry me. Same goes for the tank. The damage mitigation with an undergeared tank is just not there to absorb the heavy damage they take after heart phase.

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You just need to know exactly when you have to cast.
I had only 2 DL(a far weaker gear than a full DL one), but I did it:
At Earth Fury I precast Medica II (Earth Fury doesn't interrupt spells), then I INSTANTLY use Virus on the boss, wait that he hit with a single punch and cast Stoneskin: Mountain Buster will be significantly easier to heal. We were 1WHM (me) and 1SCH.
Then, Stoneskin after every Landslide.

never had to DF titan thanks to my FC. I spent the whole fight dead first try, but by the 3rd i could actually make it to the end and heal my ass off. I could do it asleep now, it's incredibly predictable once you understand it. Compared to coil, it's a joke. Just make a premade group, i don;t think you need great gear, people just need to stack for bombs and run to the right place, avoid plumes and use scholar bubble for jumps..

Don't forget mantra for jumps or stomps! It's one of the few times I get to use it and it actually matter, don't deny me my moment to shine!

Jokes aside, DF Titan is luck of the draw. It's almost a guarantee that at least one person will die, off the platform. You hope they're not essential. You hope there is enough dps. You hope the tank knows when to use cooldowns. You hope the healers know when to precast and are able manage mana. You hope people can dodge and don't have lag. You hope no one has an off day, or even an off moment at the wrong time. One of the best players I know get knocked off yesterday by an unlucky landslide placement on bombs and being about 2 pixels closer to it than me. It happens sometimes, and you have to hope that sometime isn't on your run.

I help with story stuff and primals all the time, but rarely DF Titan for the reasons above, and how crazy with rage people get in that fight sometimes. It's gotten to the point when I see some jerk raging on the road these days, I figure they just wiped for the 352nd time on Titan and heading to the liquor store.