Spoilers and questions regarding the R46 quest

Ok wth just happened in this cutscene?.

First thing, does this guy (who I cant stop thinking about as anything else than...JUDGE...) KNOW our character? Or rather, does he know ALL of us? His few words seem to hint at that.

Second, holy hell gunblades and arm cannons of mystical shots? I want >.>

Lastly, the way the cutscene finishes...how in HELL did any of us survive that explosion? Second, the sentence he uses...the things he says and the way they "brainwash" the young ones...is it me...or does it seem they are doing what THEY think is right? He refers to all of us as evil creatures... and after that sentence is done... is he firing a regular flare? Also, what is shooting after seeing the flare? A machine? A mechanized summon? a regular summon we cannot see?

And most importantly...again...how in hell's name did any of us survive that? I hate when the cutscene shows a "well you all died" and then everyone is alive and well and no one mentions anything about surviving the big ass explosion. What just happened?!?!?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...atalExplosions

FFXIV should be added to that list.

The only way I can see is if Protect Dome was put up at the last second.

My interpretation of these events include being whisked away by the Echo to that cave where you witness the brainwashing of the young children. This is clearly an Echo vision (which presumably removes you from harm).

Also I'm more curious about the Storyline NPCs than the Judge. Do their amazing powers come from the Echo? That's what was implied in my cut scene, I think, and that in order to stand on equal footing with the Empire we'd need to tap into the true potential of our powers.

So yes please to teleporting and deflecting bullets. I wish the battle system really allowed for that kind of timing and strategy.

The judge sets off a flare and the triggers the crashed airship in the background to fire the huge blast. If you watch the openning Movie you see the battle and also when it crashes into the lake in Mor Dhona freeing the Primals.

I believe the Garleans are trying to prevent a huge disaster from happening, 6th Umbral Era is my guess. I believe down the line they will turn out to be the lesser of the two evils and a new foe shall emerge.

The Judge says "the stench of shadow lingers still". I believe the Shadow he is referring to is an evil that has been released in the airship crash.

In the openning Cutscene the Garlean's are in a huge battle with the Dragons. Ishgard is also at war with the dragons but we do not know what has caused this deep hatred.

I do not think the Garleans war is with us but the will not hesitate to destroy anything in their way and they have a deep hatred of the beast tribes and anyone who works with them. I am sure I remember an NPC saying that Garlean airships had been dropping linkshell pearls in cities telling people they would come to know harm if the turned over anyone connected with the beast tribes.

My interpretation is that the One thats talking to us is actually evil or deeply connected to the root of evil (kind of cosmos/chaos relationship in dissidia).

The fact that the ting protecting us seems to be a primal, and the idea of most primals belonging to tribes makes me think that our summons will ahve NOTHING to do with the primals but rather with the Guardians we chose when creating our chars.

The empire might believe that us people with Echo acquired it wrongly by tapping into this Ones powers...

I WANT MORE QUESTS!!!

Yeah, me too.

Even Side Quests that let us explore the nature of the Echo would be nice. So far there have been meaningless Side Quests, ones that develop the lore around Companies, and ones that are meant to usher in this 6th Umbral Age and foreshadow, but I'd like some that tie more directly to the Main Quests.

So far they skirt around too far outside. We need some tie-ins like Star Onion Brigade was to the Windurst main storyline. I'd like it to go even deeper than that and flesh it out even more than that. There's so many questions I have about the Echo, Primals, the Empire - all in good time, I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

The judge sets off a flare and the triggers the crashed airship in the background to fire the huge blast. If you watch the openning Movie you see the battle and also when it crashes into the lake in Mor Dhona freeing the Primals.

I believe the Garleans are trying to prevent a huge disaster from happening, 6th Umbral Era is my guess. I believe down the line they will turn out to be the lesser of the two evils and a new foe shall emerge.

The Judge says "the stench of shadow lingers still". I believe the Shadow he is referring to is an evil that has been released in the airship crash.

In the openning Cutscene the Garlean's are in a huge battle with the Dragons. Ishgard is also at war with the dragons but we do not know what has caused this deep hatred.

I do not think the Garleans war is with us but the will not hesitate to destroy anything in their way and they have a deep hatred of the beast tribes and anyone who works with them. I am sure I remember an NPC saying that Garlean airships had been dropping linkshell pearls in cities telling people they would come to know harm if the turned over anyone connected with the beast tribes.

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"The stench of shadow lingers still", I believe is referring to the Shadow Eaters mentioned only ONCE in the entire story, that being at the end of the quest "Toll of the Warden", when all the beast tribes are fighting each other in Thanalan over the crystal trade and suddenly flee from this cloaked individual.

This figure appears out of no where and is NEVER seen nor heard from again through out the story:

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No one, as far as I know, knows ANYTHING about this thing or where they come from. Something I am aware of is that they either seek crystals (Diaspected?) or they seek something even more powerful present in the story.

The Garleans, on the other hand, seek to destroy the beast tribes by poisoning the minds of the young and getting them to join their villainous cause. 15 years ago they destroyed Ala Mhigo and then left without a trace. But now, for some reason, they have returned. Everyone knows this already, so I won't bother going any further into details.

The 6th Umbral Era is when the planet is at its end and returns back to the beginning in order to repeat the cylcle over again. (The cycles of Eorzea are found within the books available to players on the front desks of the Arcanist, Thaumaturge, and Conjurer's Guild).

The Imperials, on the R46 mission blurt out the following, "For Calamity draw nigh. The End is upon thee!" Possibly mentioning to either themselves bringing about "The End" or the 6th Umbral Era cycle making its inevitable arrival to the realm. I don't know which.

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If you read the text box in the screens below, you'll also notice that their mission apparently is to "Kill the beast tribes" and "Kill their Gods" (primals -Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, etc.).

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And all the beast tribes want is more crystals for themselves in order to fuel their gods to protect them from the looming danger that approaches closer and closer. There's to all this, but this is all I feel like releasing for now.

The ship in the last image btw, is the gigantic Imperial Battle Ship crashed in the center of Mor Dhona. This screen was taken 15 years ago, before it had crashed from the dragon battle. It is also possible that this Imperial Centurion in the screens is also the Gunblade wielding Imperial 15 years ago, thanks to the power of The Echo to allow us this knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Jacien

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...atalExplosions

FFXIV should be added to that list.

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Done, lol.

Also, general belief is that it was an airship blast.


Not to mention I also believe that what Leonesaurus and Alexia said is mostly true. The Empire is actually the "nice guys", but they don't mind a little dominating and mind-controlling every now and then.

Ala Mhigo probably did something for it to be attacked and conquered (while the rest of Eorzea was left "in peace"). Alliance with a beast tribe? A primal? Something else completely different?


...gimme more storyline quests, SE >_>

I'm a little worried that when new main storyline missions come out, I'm going to have to refer to this thread to remember what happened before. :)

But I appreciate the analysis. Very helpful.

/wave Ashley Zeibel

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Some stuff!

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Looks like we have a true Eorzean historian! How exciting!
Compile that lore, brutha!

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

Done, lol.

Also, general belief is that it was an airship blast.


Not to mention I also believe that what Leonesaurus and Alexia said is mostly true. The Empire is actually the "nice guys", but they don't mind a little dominating and mind-controlling every now and then.

Ala Mhigo probably did something for it to be attacked and conquered (while the rest of Eorzea was left "in peace"). Alliance with a beast tribe? A primal? Something else completely different?


...gimme more storyline quests, SE >_>

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I also believe it came from the Garlean "mothership" which was seen looming ominously.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

The judge sets off a flare and the triggers the crashed airship in the background to fire the huge blast. If you watch the openning Movie you see the battle and also when it crashes into the lake in Mor Dhona freeing the Primals.

I believe the Garleans are trying to prevent a huge disaster from happening, 6th Umbral Era is my guess. I believe down the line they will turn out to be the lesser of the two evils and a new foe shall emerge.

The Judge says "the stench of shadow lingers still". I believe the Shadow he is referring to is an evil that has been released in the airship crash.

In the openning Cutscene the Garlean's are in a huge battle with the Dragons. Ishgard is also at war with the dragons but we do not know what has caused this deep hatred.

I do not think the Garleans war is with us but the will not hesitate to destroy anything in their way and they have a deep hatred of the beast tribes and anyone who works with them. I am sure I remember an NPC saying that Garlean airships had been dropping linkshell pearls in cities telling people they would come to know harm if the turned over anyone connected with the beast tribes.

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I don't know, i think you guys are misreading his words, when he... whatever he is, talks he doesn't say "the stench of shadow" he says the cloying stench of shadow" as in, to much of something good, like cloyingly sweet or cloyingly romantic.

I get the vibe that the "stench" of shadow, smells very good to the big Garlean bad guy.

I don't think they are trying to prevent a great disaster, they are trying to bring one on.

I am very interested to know more of the 5 npcs that do battle with him, and have been saving us since the beginning, where are they from? Obviously they have been fighting the empire for awhile, They seemed to know what he was and were prepared for everything he had to throw at them.

And is what they are doing any tell as to the future of the classes/jobs? the miquote seems to be conj the lala, thm, and the girl (forget if shes human or elzen) is obviously pug. what is the guy with the daggers? I notice he throws daggers more so then melee (I have heard they have hinted of future "Jobs" that will require more then one class to unlock)

Is he some job that will require Glad and Arc to unlock? gladiator I'm assuming for daggers and arc I'm assuming for the mobility, agility and ranged use of them he displayed.

All an all this cut scene and entire quest, has left my mind going crazy, and has really peaked my interest for the storyline and content to come, I cant wait! Big thumbs up to SE on the Storyline and cut scenes so far all around.