Will 21 Fix Boredom?

EDIT: sorry seems my thread title ended up as 21 not 2.1 sorry lol

I loved my time on FFXIV.. going through the story, levelling SCH and WAR to 50.. besting all 3 HM primals..

I got into coils and my great FC party is never on at the same times so I am at a wall with that but it doesn't even seem fun anymore anyway, more of a chore..

The game.. just, seemed to get really boring.. I am going back 6 years here but I remember getting to 75 as BLM on FFXI and still being incredibly excited about the game.. there just seems to be nothing here for me now.. I know other people feel it too..

And I know the game just released I can appreciate that.. but.. will 2.1 inject fun back into the game? or will we have to wait for an expansion how ever far away that is?

I love the friends I have met and i feel responsible for the FC i made so I don't want to leave but I just don't seem to enjoy myself at the moment

2.1 won't fix anything unless they remove coils lock out timer, make crystal tower have no lock out timer(loot lock out for CT and coil instead), make sure PVP gear has no weekly cap BS like myth tomes, and make myth tomes cap per JOB and not per CHARACTER.

I'm paying $13-15/month, let me play the game as much as >>I<< want to not as much as >>YOU<< think I should, Square Enix. I don't even need to be rewarded, I don't need loot, I just want to play the game.

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To anyone who disagrees with myth tome to be job based:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ory-job-system.
You are aware you can make a new character for every job you want to level to avoid this artificial "barrier", thus having 300 tome caps per job, correct? Which is horrible, because it makes you COMPLETELY ignore the armory system at the level cap as a battle job(outside of 26/34 cross-class skills), which is a feature the game was advertised about.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

2.1 won't fix anything unless they remove coils lock out timer, make crystal tower have no lock out timer(loot lock out for CT and coil instead), make sure PVP gear has no weekly cap BS like myth tomes, and make myth tomes cap per JOB and not per CHARACTER.

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Myth cap per job is a terrible idea, that was thankfully shot down.

Alcohol usually does, yes.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

2.1 won't fix anything unless they remove coils lock out timer, make crystal tower have no lock out timer(loot lock out for CT and coil instead), make sure PVP gear has no weekly cap BS like myth tomes, and make myth tomes cap per JOB and not per CHARACTER.

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I thought you were quitting?

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Originally Posted by LobsterBisque

Alcohol usually does, yes.

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i will have to try this lol

Titan HM as a drunk SCH :P

they will introduce more content and balance some abilities. for players looking to enjoy the game, they will be big changes. however, for players constantly trying to prove that this game is releasing content slower than they can complete it, it will never be satisfactory.

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Originally Posted by Shuon

they will introduce more content and balance some abilities. for players looking to enjoy the game, they will be big changes. however, for players constantly trying to prove that this game is releasing content slower than they can complete it, it will never be satisfactory.

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luckily i am the former of your two types of people lol.. i just want to enjoy it and i am not atm

I think SE need to get a hell of a lot right with this 2.1 update. Sure there is a large player base at the moment, but I can see many people are right now at a crossroads as to whether they will continue to play if 2.1 doesn't have the goodies that everyone is hoping for.

I'm cautiously optimistic that they are hard at work and will do all that is neccessary to keep people interested.

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Originally Posted by DenzelTaru

The game.. just, seemed to get really boring.. I am going back 6 years here but I remember getting to 75 as BLM on FFXI and still being incredibly excited about the game.. there just seems to be nothing here for me now.. I know other people feel it too..

And I know the game just released I can appreciate that.. but.. will 2.1 inject fun back into the game? or will we have to wait for an expansion how ever far away that is?

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Consider that 6 years ago, XI had already had 4+ years of development post-launch, so they had plenty of content. I played XI during the first couple years it came out and it was similar to XIV's current content volume. Level 50 cap, not much to do post-story.

Aside from the dev time, XI's grind was also considerably slower than XIV's so people were much less apt to be level capped within a couple of weeks and running out of fresh content.

I am really excited for 2.1. Crystal Tower is going to play a major role in the future patches seeing as all the floors will not be released 2.1. Barber shop makes my little girly side so happy. FC housing will be neat. The expansion of extreme primals, hard mode dungeons, and another dungeon not much info is given yet. I feel itll fix boredom for a little while. At least will we have more raiding content.

You all have to open your eyes and see some of the content that was suppose to be released in 2.0 wasn't because it needed to be toned down and changed from in beta. If you hate the game that much then just leave? Why crowed the forums with negativity?

Regardless of companies downsides and slow content push I will remain positive and love this game. While im waiting for new content sticking on my weekly coil raids I will help other players with their struggles.

So OP has the worst issue you can have in an MMO, and nothing the devs can do will ever fix the issue. The people around you are what make or break a MMO, and no matter how good a FC you find, if they dont play when you do you may as not have one.

Find a good FC with a good internal community and al your problems can be fixed now, as that is what allows these games to flourish for years. Its more about the people then the game to some level, surround yourself with junk and ppl who care about them selves only and the game ends quick for you, join a real endgame COMMUNITY where everyone actually cares about more then themselves and make real friends in game and you wont be feeling there is nothing to do, as you can have fun doing the things that area chore by yourself now.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

2.1 won't fix anything unless they remove coils lock out timer, make crystal tower have no lock out timer(loot lock out for CT and coil instead), make sure PVP gear has no weekly cap BS like myth tomes, and make myth tomes cap per JOB and not per CHARACTER.

I'm paying $13-15/month, let me play the game as much as >>I<< want to not as much as >>YOU<< think I should, Square Enix. I don't even need to be rewarded, I don't need loot, I just want to play the game.

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Sure the cap is boring Agreed! but there is reason for it. You max out everything you end up have zero stuff do.

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Originally Posted by AunaYuuki

things and stuff.

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I don't remember saying I hate the game.. and I certainly didn't come here to be negative. I was asking do people think the patch will lift boredom as progress is far too quick in this game.

I agree with the rest of your post

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

2.1 won't fix anything unless they remove coils lock out timer, make crystal tower have no lock out timer(loot lock out for CT and coil instead), make sure PVP gear has no weekly cap BS like myth tomes, and make myth tomes cap per JOB and not per CHARACTER.

I'm paying $13-15/month, let me play the game as much as >>I<< want to not as much as >>YOU<< think I should, Square Enix. I don't even need to be rewarded, I don't need loot, I just want to play the game.

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To anyone who disagrees with myth tome to be job based:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ory-job-system.
You are aware you can make a new character for every job you want to level to avoid this artificial "barrier", thus having 300 tome caps per job, correct? Which is horrible, because it makes you COMPLETELY ignore the armory system at the level cap as a battle job(outside of 26/34 cross-class skills), which is a feature the game was advertised about.

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Is this all you talk about? We get it, you're upset that you can't max out on gear...but sheesh, give it a rest.

a patch will never fix boredom, only delay it.
you better get used to it..

If you're bored now I don't think patch 2.1 will have enough content to keep you going until 2.2.

Try out crafting/gathering or help out some people still working through content.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

Consider that 6 years ago, XI had already had 4+ years of development post-launch, so they had plenty of content. I played XI during the first couple years it came out and it was similar to XIV's current content volume. Level 50 cap, not much to do post-story.

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Um... unless you started pre NA release, the cap was 75. The first limit break (lv cap) was 50. Also, there's so much focus only on end game content which is limited but damn people , it still has that "new game" smell. There's quite a bit of content already in the game. Just because it doesn't hold your intetest doesn't mean the game lacks content.

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Originally Posted by Swishytail

I thought you were quitting?

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Seems like when people quit they dont stop trolling the forums. They must not have anything better to do. lol

If you're are bored you are trying hard enough or playing more than ya really should. Go outside.

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Originally Posted by Tagihi

Sure the cap is boring Agreed! but there is reason for it. You max out everything you end up have zero stuff do.

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I'm paying $13-15/month, what gives you, or SE the right to say how often and how much I can play? How does it negatively impact you, or anyone in the world, if I play too much and burn myself out?

I should be able to play as much as I want, no caps, no restrictions, this is a PAY TO PLAY MMO, not a f2p one, I expect caps and restrictions in a f2p mmo, not a monthly sub one.

You either give me the entire game, no restrictions, but make me pay monthly, or you give me the game for free and have restrictions on how often I can play and how much I can play. Pick one, not some hybrid of both picking the worst parts of both(monthly sub AND restricting how often and much I can play) and blending it together into one single game.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

I'm paying $13-15/month, what gives you, or SE the right to say how often and how much I can play? How does it negatively impact you, or anyone in the world, if I play too much and burn myself out?

I should be able to play as much as I want, no caps, no restrictions, this is a PAY TO PLAY MMO, not a f2p one, I expect caps and restrictions in a f2p mmo, not a monthly sub one.

You either give me the entire game, no restrictions, but make me pay monthly, or you give me the game for free and have restrictions on how often I can play and how much I can play. Pick one, not some hybrid of both picking the worst parts of both and blending it together into one single game.

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But this is how this game is. Like playing the game as is? Then continue to play. Don't like the game as it has been made? Don't play and please dont come on the forums spaming drivel.

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Originally Posted by Tagihi

Sure the cap is boring Agreed! but there is reason for it. You max out everything you end up have zero stuff do.

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I already have zero stuff to do, of the 10$ I spend on this game, I actively play it for 9cents each month.

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Originally Posted by Swishytail

I thought you were quitting?

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When some people say they are quitting, they really aren't. Just some people feel the need to threaten SE to change something instead of using their wallets to prove their point.

To the OP: FFXI Launch was capped at 50, and didn't have much in terms of endgame content. The time frame you played at was about 2 years into launch ( 75 cap). FFXIV ARR just came out, give it some time to grow into a great MMO. Within 2 years, I'm sure FFXIV ARR will be a great game.

If you are bored of this game, dont play the subscription man, I wouldnt!

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

You either give me the entire game, no restrictions, but make me pay monthly, or you give me the game for free and have restrictions on how often I can play and how much I can play.

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Have you never raided or otherwise PvE'ed seriously in an MMO prior to this? Weekly lockouts and currency caps are par for the course.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Have you never raided or otherwise PvE'ed seriously in an MMO prior to this? Weekly lockouts and currency caps are par for the course.

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Correct... however, most are not as quick or easy to beat as ffxiv. So basically super casuals are left entertained, and happy they can clear content. And more serious players are left utterly bored with the lack of challenging content.

you have the full game you've done coil you're just complaining you can get full af2 gear in a day get over it. just like every other thread says there isn't enough to do then complains how they can't have full best gear in a day. please stop acting like you actually want to better then game when all you want is to show off full gear before other players.

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Originally Posted by Nooblet

Correct... however, most are not as quick or easy to beat as ffxiv. So basically super casuals are left entertained, and happy they can clear content. And more serious players are left utterly bored with the lack of challenging content.

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i forgot turn 5 was easy so how many times you beat it now? once a week right?

Will it fix boredom? Depends on why you're bored. If your'e simply lacking for content, I'd say yes. And after you've conquered all the PvE in 2.1, there's plenty of PvP action to keep things going til the next

Remember that FFXI had been out for a long time before we got it in the US- At the japanese launch, FFXI had even less content than FFXIV does now.

Sure bro ;but coil 5 is still bugged ;) without those bugs do u really think that good players wont already cleared it with less than one week after they cleared turn 4 ; and coil lock out is the worst thing I very ever saw in sub mmo ; does the fact that players with a lot time to spend earning full af2 in less than one month will disturb u and change ur life ? NO ;

Because its due to their Hardworking that casual players have all free guide without moving a finger and manage to clear HL content , right ?

In my point of view I d rather play with highly experienced player to help us when we had bad times than full clueless casual player and take decade to clear new dungeons.... also even if players are fully geared they can also spend their time to find new way to clear any dungeons /fully helping all of their FC mates /perfect their gameplay and farming all dugeons for nothing but fun and for spending their free time like they WANT , and make the game better for everyone ....

on all games i ve played , i was always in the top tiers players , and even if we cleared everything in less than one month , we had never experienced boredom just after it, but just finding more ways to have fun with our pals and had a lot of fun for several MONTH And YEARS ... because when we play a game and invest a lot of time on it, it's because we LOVE it and want it to be BETTER for EVERYONE .

the principal cause of BOREDOM , is ROUTINE and LIMITATIONS .....

because limitation just keep u away from exciting stuff and hard dungeons .... seriously , good fc clear coil 1> 4 in less than one our , don't tell them to pay 15 bucks per month just for 40 min of game content, and some ppl already have full hq 70 gears, full handicraft job at 50 and more than one class 50 ..... and they all are bored because of these limitations .if they want to make 100 BcOB 1 =>4 , per week , it's their life no ? don't be self centered and think for urself ...


and also i just noticed than an fc has already cleard turn 5 even with these bugs: http://bluegarter.guildwork.com/ so ....

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

I am so confused

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There are so many things wrong with how you perceive reality that I don't even know where to begin... other than to say that at some point in your upbringing someone failed you.. badly.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

When some people say they are quitting, they really aren't. Just some people feel the need to threaten SE to change something instead of using their wallets to prove their point.

To the OP: FFXI Launch was capped at 50, and didn't have much in terms of endgame content. The time frame you played at was about 2 years into launch ( 75 cap). FFXIV ARR just came out, give it some time to grow into a great MMO. Within 2 years, I'm sure FFXIV ARR will be a great game.

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Again.. wrong. FFXI released in Japan 1 year prior to NA release which coincided with thr first expansion (Rise of the Zilart). It was with that expansion that the level cap was raised to 75.

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Originally Posted by Begeta

Again.. wrong. FFXI released in Japan 1 year prior to NA release which coincided with thr first expansion (Rise of the Zilart). It was with that expansion that the level cap was raised to 75.

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At the time of zilart's release the cap was 70. It wasn't raised to 75 until a little while after the game came out in the US. Dynamis came out a little while after that, but up to that point there wasn't much in the way of endgame content beyond BCNMs.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

you have the full game you've done coil you're just complaining you can get full af2 gear in a day get over it. just like every other thread says there isn't enough to do then complains how they can't have full best gear in a day. please stop acting like you actually want to better then game when all you want is to show off full gear before other players.



i forgot turn 5 was easy so how many times you beat it now? once a week right?

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Don't be obtuse.

Turn 5 is strictly a ilv90 gear check. BG beat it by the teeth, and they were sporting an average of 4.2k HP per toon. That's well mostly ilv90 gear.

Most people won't be at that level of gear for well over a month, so there's no point in trying Turn 5 before you are that geared.

And guess what? The myth caps are in the way of that.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

At the time of zilart's release the cap was 70. It wasn't raised to 75 until a little while after the game came out in the US. Dynamis came out a little while after that, but up to that point there wasn't much in the way of endgame content beyond BCNMs.

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Yeah..this is true.

This site has all the updates of FFXI and the timeline :D

http://z4.invisionfree.com/HCII/ar/t2095.htm