Garuda dropping the same loots since last patch

Monk wep, tank weps , and sch and smn....

we are trying to get some of the other drops like bard , blm , whm weps for some of the under geared in my fc to make titan easier for them but after atleast 30 runs no exaggeration at all its probably more runs than that, the only weps that we have seen are these ones (Monk wep, tank weps , and sch and smn..)

Something is definitely wrong

if the other weps do actually drop which im beginning to think they dont then the other drops must be extremely low % like 1 %

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation

I saw Garuda's bow drop 4 times in a row. :/

We ran it the other night a BUNCH and we got 2 whm, 1 gld, 1 war, 2 brd, 3 mnk, 0 drg, 1 smn, 1 blm

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Originally Posted by Ryios

We ran it the other night a BUNCH and we got 2 whm, 1 gld, 1 war, 2 brd, 3 mnk, 0 drg, 1 smn, 1 blm

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nice you memorised them

i dont believe it though

Maybe its different on Moogle. Its not been dropping for us.

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Originally Posted by Rushx

nice you memorised them

i dont believe it though

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People who farm it normally keep a loot list, I do and I don't even do it often.

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Originally Posted by Rushx

nice you memorised them

i dont believe it though

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I didn't memorize them... I have 3 screens and play the game in a window and maintain an excel spread sheet of drops when I run stuff. Not hard, and not unbelievable. That's what we got in 12 runs back to back averaging 7 minutes per run. Which was 180 philo and 120 myth in about an hour and 20 minutes.

Some people have a serious case of denial when it comes to RNG lol

I'm telling you though the crap drops. We see the whm weapon a lot, the only thing I've seen little of is the drg spear, seen it once in 30 runs, everything else I've seen 2+ of.

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I didn't memorize them... I have 3 screens and play the game in a window and maintain an excel spread sheet of drops when I run stuff. Not hard, and not unbelievable. That's what we got in 12 runs back to back averaging 7 minutes per run. Which was 180 philo and 120 myth in about an hour and 20 minutes.

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PMSL...

/10char

ifrit claws is like garuda lance both nearly extinct to find

Last 10 or so runs barely remember it all but; 3 axes 3 talons 2 books a staff. My very first completion got a bow. 50+ iffy fights only one bow sighting and lost the roll :confused:

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Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon

ifrit claws is like garuda lance both nearly extinct to find

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I've got a Garuda lance - I'd gladly swap it for the WHM weapon :/

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Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon

ifrit claws is like garuda lance both nearly extinct to find

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i got my claws at my 4th ifrit run with my monk

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nice you memorised them

i dont believe it though

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RNG. This means you can not see the Lance drop 50 times in a row. Or it can drop 50 times in a row. You'd have to run HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Garuda HM to, personally, build up a consistent assessment of drop percentages. You can collage from other players not in your group in the THOUSANDS of data points. And the Lady will roll her dice, and you'll either get it, or not. (You have a lower chance to get it than getting it.)

Hey, guess what. You'll see the lance drop, then see ANOTHER lance drop right after.

Ran Garuda today, what dropped was, 5 sch books (3 in a row), 3 spears, 2 thm/blm, 2 cnj/whm, 1 mrd/war. Never seen gla/pld sword drop once, and RNG gives me rolls of 32 and under. /shrug

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Originally Posted by MitArgento

i got my claws at my 4th ifrit run with my monk

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Got mine on my first run as a monk. Never saw the books when I used to play smn/sch though. I think most of the time I saw the sword and axe more than anything. Can't speak for garuda since i've yet to clear it yet. Good times with randoms.

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Originally Posted by Rushx

Monk wep, tank weps , and sch and smn....

we are trying to get some of the other drops like bard , blm , whm weps

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I got my Ifrit WHM after 25 runs, Garuda WHM after 119.
I got my Ifrit BRD after 2 runs, Garuda BRD after 2 aswell.

So yeah... i just think you had no luck yet. Its like SMN/SCH every time, i see books dropping every 2-3 runs on each primals.

and if it dropped something you want, someone will complain for not being something they want.

i dunno whats the formula for the RNG, but.. does it have anything to do with people servers?
in my server everyone agrees that garuda bow is the rarest drop.
I got myself 2 Ifrit Horns and 1 Garuda feather till a bow finally dropped. (and farmed practically every other weapon by clicking "greed")
And in almost every run, is always a whm garuda weapon..

To anyone who is getting mnk garuda drops all the time: I hate you all. With a passion.

um im from sarg and ive ran ifrit/garuda/titan today and in the past and feel the drops have been skewed towards the tanks and scholar

It always surprises me that there's so many people who can't understand the idea of rng :p

Of course, it's not like I can't understand the frustration of not getting what you want after plenty of runs of the same instance. It can be quite disheartening. Still, random is random, there's no conspiracy against anyone and there's nothing we can do 'bout it.

Not gonna lie though, bugs like that can happen. Still, if that was the case here we'd surely see far more people reporting this problem all over the forum, containing far more data than bad luck of one person. After all, there's quite a lot FCs farming primals for weapons.

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Monk wep, tank weps , and sch and smn....

we are trying to get some of the other drops like bard , blm , whm weps for some of the under geared in my fc to make titan easier for them but after atleast 30 runs no exaggeration at all its probably more runs than that, the only weps that we have seen are these ones (Monk wep, tank weps , and sch and smn..)

Something is definitely wrong

if the other weps do actually drop which im beginning to think they dont then the other drops must be extremely low % like 1 %

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if you remove the tank weapon part of that, it sounds like business as usual.

random loot is random

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Originally Posted by Misaky

i dunno whats the formula for the RNG, but.. does it have anything to do with people servers?
in my server everyone agrees that garuda bow is the rarest drop.
I got myself 2 Ifrit Horns and 1 Garuda feather till a bow finally dropped. (and farmed practically every other weapon by clicking "greed")
And in almost every run, is always a whm garuda weapon..

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mostly it's just "Confirmation Bias"

Having a token system like the tomes would solve these drop problems! Never seen tank weapon on either of guarda or ifrit! And I can garentee the second I do the other tank will end up getting it, on probably his first run through!

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Originally Posted by Pandastirfry

mostly it's just "Confirmation Bias"

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In 30 Garuda runs I've only seen one bow. Mostly SCH books though on all three primals. Actually I'd say for me at least 75% of the time it is sch book on Garuda (the one I've done the most.)

I have never seen Ifrit drop DRG. I have seen every other Ifrit weapon drop at least twice, some four or five times.

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I have never seen Ifrit drop DRG. I have seen every other Ifrit weapon drop at least twice, some four or five times.

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Really? I thought it was one of the more common drops for him. I got it on my warrior since the DRGs in my party already both had it or better and it was maybe my third ifrit kill

People say scholar drops are common. Took me 63 kills to get my Garuda weapon. RNG is RNG. Just because you run it 11 times and see a trend doesn't mean much especially when every item has an equal opportunity to drop.

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Originally Posted by Rushx

Monk wep, tank weps , and sch and smn....


if the other weps do actually drop which im beginning to think they dont then the other drops must be extremely low % like 1 %

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so... in the 480 runs you have done since the patch, you have seen more than half of the items, so you claim that it is the same item over and over... interesting

Guys guys guys you are all forgetting the obvious truth, SE is in out heads, knows what we are thinking and what we want, then they make everything but what we want drop.

Took me more than 25 Ifrit kills in 1.0, and more than 30 Garuda (using DF!) kills in 2.0 to get those two BLM weapons. The trick is to pop a /pray directed at the boss before each fight. It increases desired weapon drop rate by 5%.

When I was doing Garuda HM, I got my tank blade after about 30 runs. In between that, I've seen a lot of BLM staves, MNK gloves, and SMN books. Prior to the tank blade dropping, 4 SCH books dropped in a row.

Saw the DRG spear twice though. That one is really rare.

Maybe it didn't feel as bad for me, because I am an avid Monster Hunter player...I still think back to the days I used to farm for Mantles and Palliums in that game.

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Originally Posted by Pandastirfry

mostly it's just "Confirmation Bias"

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is not a confirmation Bias, when everyone in FC says they rarely find bows in Garuda..
the formula SE made for the RNG is bugged and each weapon got dif chances to drop cause of that

There's no "formula" for RNG. Moreover, I've done more than 200 runs of ifrit, 400 runs of garuda, and 50 (clears) of titan. I have never gotten the ifrit bow, yet seen every FC member of mine with it. Mind you, I've gotten both garuda and titan bows. In addition, I would run garuda and see a good variety of everything, then the next day 18 straight scholar books, while my FC scholar members complain about garuda never dropping scholar books in the whole 3 runs that they did. Definitely random.

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Originally Posted by Misaky

is not a confirmation Bias, when everyone in FC says they rarely find bows in Garuda..
the formula SE made for the RNG is bugged and each weapon got dif chances to drop cause of that

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Except everyone I know got their Garuda bow on their first try. Again, RNG is RNG. Everyone I knew told me that all that drops from them is scholar books. It took me 63 kills to get my scholar book. 63 times to get my book doesn't mean that the drop rates are borked. It's just RNG. At the same time my second class is summoner and I have never seen the Demagogue chest drop. That's also RNG.

Im still waiting for the Garuda weapon for a lancer to drop...other than that I have the Warrior weapon which is the next class im considering to lvl