Myth Cap - Rollover idea

Can we make myth rollover?

I'm not asking for the cap to be removed, what I'm asking for is a rollover.

So right now we get

300/2000 (current myth and myth cap) and
300/300 (current weekly cap)

Can we get another
Myth Rollover: 2432

Which basically means that when myth reset, 300 is substracted from my rollover and added to my current myth and I instantly cap for the week.

Currently we earn a lot of myth and it caps out for the week and the rest goes to waste. I would like my extra myth to rollover so that once I have 300+ in rollover I know I can spend the next week doing something else and don't have to grind myth.

If you rolled over 2000+ you wouldn't need to cap myth for 6 weeks....

They could make this simple by adding the display for it after the cap

300/300 (+342)

Which means you are at 300 of the 300 cap and have 342 to roll over on the next reset. After the next reset you would be 300/300(+42).

This would make it nice for people who take a break for a week or have to work overtime etc. If we skip BCB for a week and don't run dungeons and have 300+ rollover myth we wouldn't miss are cap for the week.

I believe someone had a post about this concept already, anyway I think it would be awesome if such a thing was implemented. It doesn't hurt anybody honestly.

Instead we should have:

1) A rested bonus for Tomestones (just like exp rested bonus)
2) Removal of a hard cap, and instead a progressive tax on all tomes collected and a redistribution of them to players who have less or none -- A progressive % of tomes collected by players over the cross-server tome average are auto-distributed to other players until the average rises (ie. Lets say you have 900 tomes, and the cross server average for lvl 50 players is 300, you would pay a 90% tax on all tomes you gain and those tomes would be randomly distributed to other players via moogle-mail until the average rises).

These would help bridge the 'tome-income-gap' and promote equality by redistributing resources between those who are privileged with lots tomes and those who aren't.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Instead we should have:

1) A rested bonus for Tomestones (just like exp rested bonus)
2) Removal of a hard cap, and instead a progressive tax on all tomes collected and a redistribution of them to players who have less or none -- A progressive % of tomes collected by players over the cross-server tome average are auto-distributed to other players until the average rises (ie. Lets say you have 900 tomes, and the cross server average for lvl 50 players is 300, you would pay a 90% tax on all tomes you gain and those tomes would be randomly distributed to other players via moogle-mail until the average rises).

These would help bridge the 'tome-income-gap' and promote equality by redistributing resources between those who are privileged with lots tomes and those who aren't.

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lol socialist tomestone distribution? you can't be serious. perhaps they should open up a tomestone welfare service as well? nobody is "privileged" with a lot of tomes, they freaking earned them. they didn't take the tomes from anyone else and they didnt inherit them. why the hell should they have to suffer because others prefer not to put the effort in? this is ridiculous logic and promotes apathy over dedication.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Can we make myth rollover?

I'm not asking for the cap to be removed, what I'm asking for is a rollover.

So right now we get

300/2000 (current myth and myth cap) and
300/300 (current weekly cap)

Can we get another
Myth Rollover: 2432

Which basically means that when myth reset, 300 is substracted from my rollover and added to my current myth and I instantly cap for the week.

Currently we earn a lot of myth and it caps out for the week and the rest goes to waste. I would like my extra myth to rollover so that once I have 300+ in rollover I know I can spend the next week doing something else and don't have to grind myth.

If you rolled over 2000+ you wouldn't need to cap myth for 6 weeks....

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I like this idea. I hate seeing my Myth's drop to the floor & it would be nice to pre-farm my weekly cap in situation where I am going to be out of town for a week.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Instead we should have:

1) A rested bonus for Tomestones (just like exp rested bonus)
2) Removal of a hard cap, and instead a progressive tax on all tomes collected and a redistribution of them to players who have less or none -- A progressive % of tomes collected by players over the cross-server tome average are auto-distributed to other players until the average rises (ie. Lets say you have 900 tomes, and the cross server average for lvl 50 players is 300, you would pay a 90% tax on all tomes you gain and those tomes would be randomly distributed to other players via moogle-mail until the average rises).

These would help bridge the 'tome-income-gap' and promote equality by redistributing resources between those who are privileged with lots tomes and those who aren't.

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This is a horrible idea...you can't be serious...

This thread is for the discussion of roll over myth. This is not an argument to fight the cap. If SE decides to keep the cap, I am making a simple quality of life feature request to let us have rollover myth. If they decide to drop the cap, then this is irrelevant.

Prefarming is a bad idea. Because then one could easily just spam it and then be done with it.

It's more logical to create a system where the cap rises if you don't go past the limit much like how leve charges work.

Say your first week you have 300 cap, you don't do any runs, so now next week the cap is 600, don't do runs again, cap is 900, which would be the max, so if you miss out 3 weeks, you can catch up that way however if you go past that limit you would not gain more of a treshold since it would only go up to 900.

I didn't say rollover would be capless. It would have a cap of "w/e the max piece of gear is" say 900. So if rollover caps at 900 it's the same concept as what you suggested Airget. Just your way is a roundabout way of suggesting the same thing.

Basically, with my way I would rollover 900 now, and not later.

Your way I would not cap now, but would catch up later.

Either way there will be a 900 myth worth of runs I don't run. For either solution.

And imo, if SE had done this rollover idea weeks ago they would not have had the reserving instance issues with AK. Because people would stop queing for AK when they have enough rollover to cap the next week. So there would be up random windows over 3 weeks where people don't need to run it, thus lowering demand on the dungeon by A LOT.

How about this idea: Once you cap your tomestones for the week try one of the following:
1. Playing another class
2. Going outside
3. Interacting with other humans out there in meatspace

I agree that a cap should be placed on rollover...either one of your suggestions would work just fine. I wouldn't want people who have all the time in the world to be able to farm 2 months worth of myth's & be done with it. But either system would make it nice for people like myself who are very busy IRL & like to travel.

@Sinth: No need to be that way...this is a very good suggestion that would work very well with how busy people are these days. MMO's are trying to adapt to a world where people have less time than they did when traditional MMO's were the norm & this runs right along with that. I realize there will always be those people, of whom your suggestions are likely for, that do nothing but grind the game 24/7. But a lot of people, such as myself, are very busy with work, friends, family & other hobbies that they don't always have the time every week to meet these caps.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

How about this idea: Once you cap your tomestones for the week try one of the following:
1. Playing another class
2. Going outside
3. Interacting with other humans out there in meatspace

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Troll Much? I have 2 50's. Just because I post on the forums and play the game doens't mean I don't go outside. I can cap myth in one night of play in under 4 hours, it's not hard. BCB turn 1, AK, AK AK, AK, AK, Garuda, Garuda, WP capped. 7 mins gor Garuda, 25 mins for AK, 20 mins for WP, 15 minutes for turn 1. 2.5 to 3 hours worth of content (5-7 hours + if you count group forming and reserving instance crap, and afk's, dc's etc etc).

You all want your tomestones and you want them now. There is a valid reason why SE has a non-rolling cap for myth tomes. IT KEEPS PEOPLE LOGGING IN TO THE SERVICE. You introduce rollover and in a short time you have people who are finished with the tome-farming and have no incentive to log in and play with others except for each week when they log in to purchase a new piece of gear and log out.

Also, please, I work 50 hours a week, have a family and an active social life. I can still find the time to do 1 run a day and maybe an extra run or two on the weekend to hit cap. Just because some people don't have an abundance of free time doesn't mean others should pay for it.

Sinth: It's already that way. People log in and cap, run BCB, and log off and go play LOL, GTA5, or Pokemon on 3ds....

And allowing me to rollover myth would allow me to do other stuff more often. Go help with a titan, go level out my blm and populate the low level dungeons with some dps. Go keep the fate trains alive, etc etc. Right now I spend a solid 1 to 2 days every week when I play just running AK with some pore lonely soles sitting in Horizon trying to level to 15 but no one there to help them fate, and I would be there filling that hole If I could roll over my myth and skip it one week.

Also I don't want my tomestones now, I want them when the cap resets on monday and it uses 300 from my rollover. What I want is for my myth that I legitally earned to not go to waste up to a 900 cap. Nothing I have suggested here is going to give us more myth. It's just going to let us farm next weeks myth this week, so we can focus on other things next week, like that other class you mentioned.

I disagree with the rollover concept.
It would stop people's urge to play every week when the cap reset...

... UNLESS, they implement a countermeasure like if you pay 1M a week you can rollover your myth or something like that.
Every thing makes up the system in a synergy effect. They really have to be cautious if they try to implement a rollover feature.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Instead we should have:

1) A rested bonus for Tomestones (just like exp rested bonus)
2) Removal of a hard cap, and instead a progressive tax on all tomes collected and a redistribution of them to players who have less or none -- A progressive % of tomes collected by players over the cross-server tome average are auto-distributed to other players until the average rises (ie. Lets say you have 900 tomes, and the cross server average for lvl 50 players is 300, you would pay a 90% tax on all tomes you gain and those tomes would be randomly distributed to other players via moogle-mail until the average rises).

These would help bridge the 'tome-income-gap' and promote equality by redistributing resources between those who are privileged with lots tomes and those who aren't.

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clearly, we need to check our tomestone privilege.

I'd love to just cap my myth to 2000 and be done for 6 weeks.

Great idea. Then I wouldn't even have to log in.

+1

Gotta keep people paying those subs somehow during those 3 months of no new content.

I'd be ok with a bonus to phil tomes instead if you're at cap already. So it's not a complete waste. So if you're capped myths you'll get 140 phil tomes for each AK. Sure not everyone still needs them, but you can buy mats with them.

That's an awesome idea too. If your capped on myth stuff stops philo instead. At least I could sell coke and ores etc when I cap myth.