So, don't get me wrong, I love playing my Paladin, but as we all know, we don't really "Feel" like paladins... more like run of the mill Knights don't you think?
Well, I just noticed that untranslated the "Paladin" job is actually written in Katakana as "Naito" or, "Knight".
Makes me curious if they didn't intend for us to be "paladins" and simply added it for flavor.
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Are Paladins really Paladins?
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10-16-2013, 07:08 AMSephirahAre Paladins really Paladins?
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10-16-2013, 08:06 AMKunkkaIt was written the same in FFXI and they were considered paladins then too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephirah
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10-16-2013, 08:08 AMSkies
Interestingly, Paladins are not, in fact, holy knights.
They're just the elite royal guard of Ul'Dah. ('just' but yeah) -
10-16-2013, 08:09 AMSephirahWeird, neither "Knight" or "Paladin" are japanese words, makes me wonder why they chose to use ナイト (naito), instead of パラディン (paradin).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunkka
Yea I got that much from the job quests, but again makes me wonder why they chose to call us paladins if really we are just Knights, or Royal Gaurd, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skies
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10-16-2013, 08:44 AMMickadin
Paladin derives from a Latin word meaning palace officer.
With FFXIV Paladins being the personal guard of the Sultana in Ul'dah it actually makes sense. -
10-16-2013, 03:25 PMCascade
The recorded instance of the word paladin in the English language dates to 1592, in a poem written by Samuel Daniel.[1] It entered English through the Middle French word paladin, which itself derived from the Italian paladino.[1] All these words for Charlemagne's Twelve Peers descend ultimately from the Latin palatinus, most likely through the Old French palatin.[1] The Latin palatinus referred to an official of the Roman Emperor connected to the imperial palace on the Palatine Hill; over time this word came to refer to other high-level officials in the imperial, majestic and royal courts.[2] The word palatine, used in various European countries in the medieval and modern eras, has the same derivation.[2]
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10-16-2013, 06:10 PMDelorean
Sure. They do stuff. Like wear heavy armor. and look pretty. and do holy magic. and all of that Paladin jazz.
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10-16-2013, 08:47 PMEmilyee
what i want to know is where is my once a day Lay on Hands skill at ... Paladin my butt ...
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10-16-2013, 11:00 PMCyanDvaiFFXIV does not equal WoW or D&D, if you want skills from those games go play those games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emilyee
Given the origins of the word Paladin our job and abilities and back story makes sense. -
10-16-2013, 11:05 PMNamasu
Wait...What if we aren't really paladins and are just time traveling warrior that learned how to play and use shield and sword instead...
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10-16-2013, 11:27 PMEmilyeewasn't being serious .. perhaps sarcasm just doesn't translate well via text....Quote:
Originally Posted by CyanDvai
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10-17-2013, 12:51 AMKryzenIf you try to use sarcasm on a forum…Quote:
Originally Posted by Emilyee
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10-17-2013, 01:47 AMDman0129Im thinking they were referring to Everquests "Lay on Hands". . . but no need to be a jerk i think they were joking around.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyanDvai
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10-17-2013, 01:58 AMCenewulft the original concepts of the game that started this franchise piggybacked on a majority of D&D's concepts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dman0129
I mean look at the bestiary for the original on the NES and then look at a first edition AD&D Monster manual. :P -
10-17-2013, 03:23 AMCyanDvai
I wasn't trying to be a jerk either, sorry. I just see a lot of posts with people comparing FFXIV to WoW and other games and it gets annoying.
Yes, sarcasm doesn't translate well in text, usually helps when people do /sarcasm.
I'm a huge D&D fan and it was where I got my start in Role Playing Games. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Holy Paladin undead slayer archetype in games and I find it refreshing that the PLD here is more of a High Knight which rings true to the back story in the game and the origins of the word, kinda like the Knights Templar.
I will say that I sometimes wish we had a better head slot than a crown or circlet. -
10-17-2013, 03:57 AMResolute
I have seen this kind of topic come up in other places too. Abilities-wise, it feels like a Paladin to me. I guess my idea of a Paladin is a knight that uses some holy/white magic to help fight or protect himself/others. There are some holy magic type abilities we get: Flash (blinding bright light), Circle of Scorn (thrusts sword into ground emitting white light that applies dot (burning holy fire) to all enemies), and Hallowed Ground (invincibility shield). Plus, we can cross-class white magic skills like protect, cure, and resurrection. So, I am not really sure why people think Paladin in FFXIV isn't Paladiny enough...
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10-17-2013, 04:06 AMOrophinIt's a bit confusing changing the ability set of Paladin in this game since Paladin in practically every other FF game has been a Knight with a decent proficiency in healing. It's even more confusing because Paladin in 1.0 had a job only heal spell plus another that gave a heal over time effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickadin
I think they should have just called them Knight in English as well. I think it would be less confusing. Probably a bit too late to change that now though.
Probably has a lot to do with Paladin's Cure spell is complete garbage. In FFXI, their cures up through Cure 3 were just as efficient as a healer's, less any healing+ enhancing gear. They definitely seemed to go WoW's route for Paladin on this, as healing as a tank was not viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute
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10-17-2013, 04:45 AMThemisI do miss Holy Succor from v1.0. Hopefully, when the level cap increases, Paladin will get this back at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orophin
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10-17-2013, 04:57 AMResoluteSure, our heals are crap. But I don't think you necessarily need heals to be a Paladin when you use white magic for other things such as offense or damage mitigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orophin