I've never seen a company crack down as hard on a community for putting the game's music on YouTube. The company cared not one bit when 1.0 was around, but now that you've launched the game again, any mention of having any piece of sound from 1.0 or 2.0 and you come down hard with copyright claims.
It seems a bit excessive. Especially considering you have other MMOs or games with full soundtracks up and absolutely no issue has been brought up by the company. If you're so concerned with lost revenue, then why not just put ads in the videos and be done with it?
The only reason I can fathom is a release of the soundtrack in digital media will be forthcoming. If so, then fantastic! I'll be buying it, as the music is great.
Square, why the paranoia about the game's music?
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10-15-2013, 02:48 PMlord_naarghulSquare, why the paranoia about the game's music?
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10-15-2013, 02:50 PMKrasus
The same reason why popular musicians do the same, because they believe that eliminating other sources of the music will encourage people to buy the soundtrack.
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10-15-2013, 02:53 PMlord_naarghulBut there's no official soundtrack yet. And most copyright claims come from the record companies, not the musicians themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krasus
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10-15-2013, 02:56 PMLordSideKicks
Sadly almost nothing is free in this world. Sound included.
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10-15-2013, 02:58 PMMeeDeggiThePunisher
Can we at least get some kind of radio or music player for our inn/houses if you insist on removing the music from youtube. Or just sell it, that's good too.
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10-15-2013, 03:02 PMlord_naarghul
I'd prefer the music get sold. I'm not fond of having to sell my soul to Apple, but I will if I have to to get some of the music in CD form legally. I don't like pirating music. Youtube's another matter because a company can stick ads in a particular vid and see money from it that way, plus it's not terribly efficient.
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10-15-2013, 03:05 PMZarathThey've announced they plan jukeboxes for houses...Quote:
Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher
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10-15-2013, 03:09 PMKrasus
Considering they are currently selling the 1.0 soundtrack, I'm sure they will get around to selling 2.0
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10-15-2013, 03:21 PMDhalmel
The main reason for these copyright claims is due to the fact the OST is available to purchase. During the 1.0 era, there were only 2 small partial releases, and they've been long out of print since early 2011. There was really no incentive to give google content ids for a project that might actually fail. Once Square released Eorzean Frontiers, that's when the Copyright claims started to show.
I don't expect the ARR edition of a full OST not for a full year at the soonest. -
10-15-2013, 03:25 PMlord_naarghulThere isn't much to the CE soundtrack from what I can tell. I don't think Praetorium's theme is in it, nor are the boss fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dhalmel
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10-15-2013, 03:28 PMEnkidohSimple, it's their copyright, they can enforce it however they wish. The old 1.0 tracks that had been on Youtube for ages were probably tolerated by SE as has been said because until recently there was no complete soundtrack for 1.0 available. However, with Before Meteor's release, that's no longer an excuse, and hence SE finally brought the axe down on Youtube users who uploaded it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_naarghul
As for ARR tracks, there is already the Sounds of Eorzea album that came with the Collector's Edition with the new city and zone themes, and a great deal of other tracks used in ARR were actually from 1.0, so there's only a comparative handful of new material still waiting to be released. Have a little patience - SE will release it soon enough. -
10-15-2013, 03:29 PMKsenia
A multi billion dollar recording industry fell to piracy.
I seriously doubt mighty Square Enix will vanquish the mean ole music pirates.
If I had words of wisdom for SE, give it up and don't waste your resources. -
10-15-2013, 03:31 PMDhalmelI was referring to Before Meteor and EF. SoE is hardly a OST.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_naarghul
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10-15-2013, 03:33 PMAaron_T
Ok... let me tell you about something.
Amazing game for super nintendo "EARTHBOUND"
Stupid amazing game, my very first RPG EVER
I actually rented this game as a kid by ACCIDENT but got HOOKED
Sadly though... the game got several lawsuits.
Take a look at a website called "Earthbound Legal"
This might expain to you why Sqaure is so paranoid. -
10-15-2013, 03:43 PMDhalmelThat is something entirely different, ARR uses completely original music or/and 100% owned by Square. EB was homage after homage of music not owned by Nintendo.Quote:
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10-15-2013, 03:47 PMReiterpallaschExcept you can look up and listen to literally every other song that has ever been created by them, all of which have soundtracks out there. So why just target 1.0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
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10-15-2013, 03:59 PMKraggyKorBecasue God forbid the CREATOR of a work hasn't the right to decide if and when they make it available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krasus
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10-15-2013, 04:00 PMAaron_TYou know what, your right, my bad, I skipped over it I'm a dummy.Quote:
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I was assuming too much, I do that a lot. You've helped me realize that though.
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10-15-2013, 04:04 PMAaron_T
So... this is a rough subject for me.
My personal philosophy is... all information should be free, even music,
So I kind of side with you.
Then again, they pay money for copyrights, it is their creation.
I dunno, I'm kind of torn in half about this debate.
(The FF2 Boss music remix from reborn is my ringtone btw)
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10-15-2013, 04:08 PMlord_naarghulI'll point out again that most of the time in those cases, copyright claims come from the record companies, not usually from the musicians. I'm no "freetard" - I pay for all of my music - but YouTube and Hulu have methods by which they can still get revenue to the people who want it. If that wasn't the case, then Hulu wouldn't exist at all.Quote:
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10-15-2013, 04:10 PMAaron_T
Youtube's been cracking down a lot on it too.
Like, lots of people used to record gameplay and do like a podcast thing
with gameplay as video.
A lot of people were making money from doing this.
But they are really cracking down on that kind of stuff.
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10-15-2013, 04:49 PMZohnoReecho
What most of these companies fail to understand is that if they can pirate it, they won't buy it. If they cannot pirate it, they won't buy it anyway.
If someone wants to support a company/artist/whatever they will buy your product whether he can/does pirate it. -
10-15-2013, 05:18 PMKrasusI'm not sure why your post is in response to mine I have no issue with what they do, simply stating the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by KraggyKor
Your right it IS the record companies that handle the claims but I doubt the musicians didn't play a part in it. Everyone wants to go platinum :p :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_naarghul