Exploding Inventory

Hello adventurers! :cool:

I'd like to talk about a little problem I'm having during my travels in Eorzea and ask the community rep here, if they'll ever read this, to give me, if possible, some word on this matter.

In the last few weeks, managing the items in my Inventory and in the ones of my two Retainers has gotten worse and worse. I'm really out of space: 99/100 on both Retainers, with some +3 items on their bazaars (that I don't want to sell), and around 90/100 on my character before every regional levequest, gathering or any type of other exploration.

Since I'm an explorer-type adventurer, going out with such a limited space is very... limiting. And, particularly, it's very time-consuming.
I run out of those 10 spaces pretty quickly, so I've to discard the items I don't need and put in my bazaar what I don't want to discard, and those other 10 spaces ends quickly as well, so items start going in the Loot List, making the discard process even more time-consuming.
Also, having those 10 items in bazaar makes other adventurers lose their time as well if they open it, since those are items I don't want to sell and that they can't buy.

So my request to Yoshida-san is:

Could we have more space in our inventories in time for the 1.18 patch of mid-June?

I know there're other priorities, but I wouldn't have opened this discussion if things weren't starting to become tedious, at least for someone like me who doesn't spend much time in Eorzea and can't afford to spend so much between managing items and discarding them.

Soon I'll have to craft Velveteen, Toad Leather, Steel Nuggets and so on, and I can't possibly do it at the moment. I'd have to discard the HQ items (+3 stuff for later crafts) I obtained, but those are not very common and I know something about looking for a +3 item during battles or gathering and not not being able to find it after days of search.


I thought about a few possibilities to add more inventory space by ourselves, like crafting some sort of special bags, or obtaining them through a few sidequests. These two options would also be more satisfactory.
This has become a big limit for an all-round crafter-gatherer-explorer like me, so please raise its priority, Yoshida-san and company!

If there're other adventurers out there in my same condition, you're welcome to wave your hand here.

Great Adventures to everyone!

I came in expecting pants to explode and retainers to pop...I am dissapointed. >_>

But really, this can be fixed by not saving everything you can't use in the immediate future.

It's called management. Stop hoarding stuff.

Having dealt with Final Fantasy XI with a fraction of the storage space and pretty much the same amount of items if not more, the amount of space we are granted in XIV is almost preposterous.

Get rid of what you do not need in the immediate future. Learn to manage your space. If we were given 1,000 more inventory slots, players in 2 months would still complain "we don't have enough". Of course you have enough. Learn to minimalize.

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Originally Posted by Rjain

It's called management. Stop hoarding stuff.

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I have to agree. How many space we have got during opening ? 80/80 :-) and stack by 12

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Originally Posted by Rjain

It's called management. Stop hoarding stuff.

Having dealt with Final Fantasy XI with a fraction of the storage space and pretty much the same amount of items if not more, the amount of space we are granted in XIV is almost preposterous.

Get rid of what you do not need in the immediate future. Learn to manage your space. If we were given 1,000 more inventory slots, players in 2 months would still complain "we don't have enough". Of course you have enough. Learn to minimalize.

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Pretty much this. I had 80/80/80 character space max mog house but not mac mog locker. If worst comes to worst npc stuff. This game started out with more inventory space then the ffxi did, and may still have more inventory space then ffxi. 100/100/100 for youself and 2 retainer. Plus most stuff is stacked to 999 AND crystal/shards are in their own inventory. (unlike ffxi) While in ffxi stuff was under a 12 or 99 stack.

I wish people would stop blaming the game for their poor inventory management skills.

yep, as a crafter you definitaly gotta learn to not keep everything you might need in the future.
only keep what's needed to skill-up, but don't forget to keep it to 1-2 different grind crafts at max.
especially when it comes down to grinding a craft job you gotta count in to have atleast 1000-2000 pieces of materials for each craft, for the next few levels.
i'm pretty good on inventory space on me and my 2 retainers.
1 retainer holds my crafting mats, one holds equip i don't currently use and items that i sell (fish/materials/etc), and on me i usually have the equip for my current class i play, and all craft tools/equipment.

This is different than in FFXI. I spent a lot of time in FFXI managing my inventory, but I never felt like I had to make decisions I would majorly regret. If worst came to worst in FFXI, you could offload your inventory to your alts, make another alt, or mail items to yourself if they were must-have items. In FFXIV though, we are at a choke point with many many many more items, 4 different variants of each item, and mainly due to the far more in depth crafting system. More inventory space is certainly needed, or the ability to have more retainers, or a mail system, or an auction house system with unlimited auction space.

For example, the inventory limits make you lean toward vendoring any +1 +2 or +3 because that way you can maintain a stack of regular items. But the existence of those items should make you lean toward saving them (or selling them) for an important craft. But because of the systems in the game, you have to vendor them. What a waste.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

This is different than in FFXI. I spent a lot of time in FFXI managing my inventory, but I never felt like I had to make decisions I would majorly regret. If worst came to worst in FFXI, you could offload your inventory to your alts, make another alt, or mail items to yourself if they were must-have items. In FFXIV though, we are at a choke point with many many many more items, 4 different variants of each item, and mainly due to the far more in depth crafting system. More inventory space is certainly needed, or the ability to have more retainers, or a mail system, or an auction house system with unlimited auction space.

For example, the inventory limits make you lean toward vendoring any +1 +2 or +3 because that way you can maintain a stack of regular items. But the existence of those items should make you lean toward saving them (or selling them) for an important craft. But because of the systems in the game, you have to vendor them. What a waste.

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That you'd regret? Go get the damn item again. There's not a whole lot of rare and exciting things in this game. Anything you can get you can get again with not a whole lot of trouble.

I level every single class in the game. So far I'm having no trouble with my inventory except for when I get lazy and don't manage it. After I manage it I continue leveling. That includes every single craft and storing mats for future synths, every piece of gear I'm interested in, and things that "might be useful in the future".

People just keep whining that they want more, more, more, and more. I'm almost hoping that they decrease the inventory space just to teach people to manage their shit more, but that's never going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

This is different than in FFXI. I spent a lot of time in FFXI managing my inventory, but I never felt like I had to make decisions I would majorly regret. If worst came to worst in FFXI, you could offload your inventory to your alts, make another alt, or mail items to yourself if they were must-have items. In FFXIV though, we are at a choke point with many many many more items, 4 different variants of each item, and mainly due to the far more in depth crafting system. More inventory space is certainly needed, or the ability to have more retainers, or a mail system, or an auction house system with unlimited auction space.

For example, the inventory limits make you lean toward vendoring any +1 +2 or +3 because that way you can maintain a stack of regular items. But the existence of those items should make you lean toward saving them (or selling them) for an important craft. But because of the systems in the game, you have to vendor them. What a waste.

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Why? I fail to see why you still need yet more retainer space. SE provides you the tools, you utilize them, it's not up to SE to cater this game to every little folly a small percentage of the playerbase has. I mean, I know SE wanted to see more horizontal levelling, but if you're trying to rank every... single... class... then it's your own fault. Optimize a bit, finish one craft, then move to the next. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the inventory space allocated, especially with large changes coming to the crafting system to address the overburden of materials.

Just because you can vendor a valuable item, such as a +3 mat, then "go get it again" later, does not solve the problem of inventory in this game, and neither did adding an extra 20 slots to inventory.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

Just because you can vendor a valuable item, such as a +3 mat, then "go get it again" later, does not solve the problem of inventory in this game, and neither did adding an extra 20 slots to inventory.

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I'm doing fine. Why aren't you?

In FFXI we had to do quests to increase our puny inventory limit... now we get 100 (which is more than normally you can get in 11) right off the bat. Stop complaining xD

Only advice I can give to people is to use the market as your inventory space. That is, toss what you haven't used without hesitation. EVERYTHING is functional as a non-durable good in this market, take advantage of it. Don't save that dodoskin set that your miner grew out of for the day you'll level botanist. Get rid of it and just buy a new set when you do. You save inventory and help a leatherworker out.

You've got the gil, I know you do.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

Pretty much this. I had 80/80/80 character space max mog house but not mac mog locker. If worst comes to worst npc stuff. This game started out with more inventory space then the ffxi did, and may still have more inventory space then ffxi. 100/100/100 for youself and 2 retainer. Plus most stuff is stacked to 999 AND crystal/shards are in their own inventory. (unlike ffxi) While in ffxi stuff was under a 12 or 99 stack.

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can you please explain with this mass knowledge of what stacks to 999 in your main inventory?

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Originally Posted by Rjain

It's called management. Stop hoarding stuff.

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Sorry, but I find hoarding fun. A game that allows me to play like a rat-pack is a game I find fun. I want to fill my inventory, bags, bank slots, mog house, retainer, guild bank, whatever they call the storage in this game with dozen of I-don't-know-if-I'll-use-it-again items.

This my vision of fun. I want to have fun in this game, like I have had in a lot of other crafting oriented games (Eve, Vanguard, Perpetuum).

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Originally Posted by Rjain

I'm doing fine. Why aren't you?

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I'd like to see the market operate more efficiently.

I agree. You're doing a bit too much hoarding. I personally believe there's enough inventory space.

Don't misunderstand, no complaining at all, but simply a request. I've 7/8 Disciples of the Hand over Rank 30 and the 3 Disciples of the Land over Rank 20 (I level them all at the same time), and I wouldn't have asked if it hadn't become this time-consuming to manage stuff.

The fact is that to manage the inventory and the retainers' items takes me at least 15 minutes daily. I've two Retainers, one with Blacksmith/Armorer/Goldsmith/Carpenter stuff, another with Alchemist/Leatherworker/Weaver/Event items stuff. Of course, I could gain more space if I'd just discard, for instance, the 2 sets of Dream equip from the Starlight Celebration or the few Usagi Kabuto I've left; but I'm also thinking about new adventurers who'll come to Eorzea in our guild and might want those.

Also, it's not that easy to “simply get again the item you previously discarded”. It depends on luck sometimes, if a monster drops it soon or not, or if you can craft it. And it depends on how much time one can afford to spend daily in Eorzea.
So my inventories are in order, and since they are I don't even use the sort function, since I took my time to manually sort them. To have more space I should simply discard stuff, like:

- The previously mentioned Dream and Usagi equip, but I already explained why I'm keeping them.

- Repairing materials I don't need, but I want to keep those in case someone need assistance. I might discard those Hempen Fents, ok, but what if I see a new adventurer in Gridania who asks for repair and there're no fents in the Market Wards there?

- HQ versions. And in this case why should I discard, for instance, 4 Iron Fish Hooks +3 if I was lucky enough to create them? I'd use one for the Bamboo Fishing Rod and if the tool doesn't HQ, I'd try again later when I'm more experienced. Creating Iron Nuggets +3 is not that easy, procure the materials and all.
I remember once when I ended a synth with 3 Copper Ores +3 and 1 Zinc Ore +3, resulting in 12 normal Brass Nuggets, while I already had used up too quickly the HQ nuggets I had before. And getting HQ Ores at my rank is not that easy, either. Yesterday I got 2 Iron Ores +3 and couldn't get the remaining 2. Same thing for a Limonite +3 and Iron Sand +3 I'd need. Considering how uncommon it was to get them, I'm not convinced in discarding or selling them. These, of course, are just a few of the dozens of examples I could make, just to give an idea.
I've many other +3 items I got from monsters, and that's the same, sometimes they simply don't drop them, even after hours of slaying, so I keep them if I happen to find them.

If I get rid of the stuff mentioned in the first two points, I'd probably gain around 30 spaces, but in that case it wouldn't be fine for the way I live it in Eorzea (many may not understand this, I know).


I, instead, understand your points and thank you for sharing them. I'd simply like to have more liberty, being able to craft Classes-specific equipments or just some gear for aesthetics, and to do this, since I don't want to discard the repairing materials for others or my HQ stuff, I'd need more space, and as a crafter I wouldn't see a better way than to create by myself some special bag, so that only those who need it, upgrade it (Choice). But it's not a complaint, just a request. :D

Take it easy. ;) See ya!

While I agree to an extent, I'm not the kind of person who likes to have each and every space in my inventory or retainers filled to the brim. I use that space to move a lot of things around. I level a lot of classes, not all the time but enough that saving a lot of old armor, or multiple weapons is necessary especially as tossing it out and purchasing another would cost about 200k. I don't save everything, but I do save up what needs to be to rank up and that can turn out to be quite a bit. 95 of 100 slots in my inventory are already just gear and weapons. That's RIDICULOUS. Even after repairing and just tossing what I couldn't sell, my inventory is quite full. Not entirely, but enough that makes farming really painful.


I don't belong to an 'end game' shell or one that does a lot of events that make gil. I'm maining in Alchemy and the price of glue gets so heavily undercut on my server, especially with the implementation of quest mobs dropping items making it less valuable. Same with dyes, and every other consumable. So tossing old equipment just for 'space' is a little unreasonable with the inflation, and low level gear costing upwards in the one hundred thousands.

More inventory space may not be necessary, but working out how the inventory currently works would be better. I don't see how an item on your body counts as being in your inventory at the same time. While it could still show up in the list, the status of "worn" could be attached to it. Seeing as we carry so much around, being able to change jobs on the fly, it seems like a reasonable proposition at this point.

Stop hoarding or leveling too many crafts at once. Do a few things at a time and focus on those.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Stop hoarding or leveling too many crafts at once. Do a few things at a time and focus on those.

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will be a good suggestion after the fatigue is removed, but when every craft minus cul is fatigued each week it kinda forces you into another class or you lose part of your sp.

edit: i have every craft over 30 and a few close to or over 40 and barely manage my inventory. i manage it only because i use my alt to hold materials that i get from my gathering classes and hq materials that i craft.

throw away all of junk items (craft materials) you'll never have this issue again :D

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Originally Posted by Evangela

throw away all of junk items (craft materials) you'll never have this issue again :D

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throw away all of your gear and weapons and you will never have this problem again.

My Inventorys are full too. 100+10 (bazaar) both retainers and 89/100+10 on my Character.

But the problem with your request is: Unless they give us Unlimited Inventory-space there will be always someone asking for more. If they add another 50, the ppl who got full Inventory now will get those additional space full too very soon.

Just dont keep every item, i have to learn it by myself too.

In FFXI it was even worse btw. at the time i did play it.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

throw away all of your gear and weapons and you will never have this problem again.

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I never had this problem from the beginning

you only need 20-30 inventory slots for your weapons and gears, and you can live in Eorzea

but Cotton Bolls +3 or Silver Ingot +3 can't save your life when mobs aggro you, just throw them away

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I never had this problem from the beginning

you only need 20-30 inventory slots for your weapons and gears, and you can live in Eorzea

but Cotton Bolls +3 or Silver Ingot +3 can't save your life when mobs aggro you, just throw them away

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you fail to see the point. gear and weapons are all that allows a battle class to rank up so it is required. materials to craft is all that all that allows doh to rank up so they are just as required. there is a difference between a cotton boll+3 and a silver ingot+3 btw.

a cotton boll +3 is a drop therefore it can be picked up off a mob. a silver ingot+3 is a crafted material. it's like saying well you are not playing gladiator today so just toss that vintage hauby+3 since you can get another hauby from the wards.

I can keep the Vintage Hamburger +3 cuz it's need only 1 slot on inventory :D

I'm using 1 slot for a Vintage Hamburger +3 = I'm using only 1 slot for millions gil

you using 100 slots for materials = you using all of your slots for 1~10 millions gil

that's why I don't play DoH

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I can keep the Vintage Hamburger +3 cuz it's need only 1 slot on inventory :D

I'm using 1 slot for a Vintage Hamburger +3 = I'm using only 1 slot for millions gil

you using 100 slots for materials = you using all of your slots for 1~10 millions gil

that's why I don't play DoH

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depends on the materials. they do have items that go for 30-40k each and stack into stacks of 99. do you see yourself tossing 300-400k stacks of anything when it took hours to get? besides your whole 20-30 slots for gear and weapons is completely off base since most have primary and secondary and with gear you are easily over 50-60 slots.