To SE please read.

Would it be too much to ask that you add more single player focused content to break the massive partying up a little bit, like a single player version of all 3 primals and have the scions of fate help you out. Because it is becoming rather taxing to my enthusiasm for this game to deal with the multiplayer and all the BS that comes along with it. Sure we get the occasional leaves and occasional single player quest here and there but the major consent is restricted for playing with other people and the community of this game is a little too on the must speed run everything and FU if you can't keep up dude of things. Would be nice if you took a hint from DCUO and added Duos single player versions of runs so that every one can get the full enjoyment of the game without having to be nailed to the duty finder or deal with unruly players. just a thought.

well i mean this is an mmorpg, you're supposed to be playing with others

try to make friends so that you don't have to use the df or deal with people who irritate you

Most complaints about MMOs these days are about how massively multiplayer and online they are.

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Most complaints about MMOs these days are about how massively multiplayer and online they are.

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This x1000.

Seriously, why play a multiplayer game and then complain that it's multiplayer? If you want a single player game, then you have plenty of other options.

Also, what do you mean "occasional single player quest here and there"?

The vast majority of the game is single player content.

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Please, by all means, do NOT listen to that guy. The last MMO I've played (Lotro) began its demise with the developers catering to player begging for everything (incl. BIS raid gear) to be handed out to them by doing some kind of easy solo content. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG ... which part of the term is so hard to comprehend? If you want a single player RPG, there are plenty of excellent single player RPGs out threre, even in the FF universe.

Lol....Complaining about too much working together on an MMORPG....
This isn't a PS3 single player Final Fantasy hun.
I think you need to look up the definition of MMORPG.

Play Final Fantasy XIII.

wow you look like every other end game tank, quite amusing

because the community at lvl 50 on this game is pathetically selfish and only care about how fast they can get their tomes, instead of playing as a group and interacting with others wanting to enjoy the game at less than 1000mph

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because the community at lvl 50 on this game is pathetically selfish and only care about how fast they can get their tomes, instead of playing as a group and interacting with others wanting to enjoy the game at less than 1000mph

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Just join a nice social Free Company or Linkshell and all of those problems are solved. You don't have to use the Duty Finder, it's only an option.

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because the community at lvl 50 on this game is pathetically selfish and only care about how fast they can get their tomes, instead of playing as a group and interacting with others wanting to enjoy the game at less than 1000mph

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the very reason I want more single player content. Sure working with others can be fun but when the community is polluted with sarcastic, arrogan, wont even humor the idea elitists like those above, you get put off. Lotro was killed by bad community, same reason players are leaving wow, many issues when it comes to enjoying the game. I play Because I like the story, like making my own characters, and like the option to play with others. But when a game forces you to play with others, and the "others", often only care about end gaming, the fun of playing with others dies quickly and becomes a tedious affair. So rather than see the game dry, I'd like too see them add a little variety to their coop heavy game.

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the very reason I want more single player content. Sure working with others can be fun but when the community is polluted with sarcastic, arrogan, wont even humor the idea elitists like those above, you get put off. Lotro was killed by bad community, same reason players are leaving wow, many issues when it comes to enjoying the game. I play Because I like the story, like making my own characters, and like the option to play with others. But when a game forces you to play with others, and the "others", often only care about end gaming, the fun of playing with others dies quickly and becomes a tedious affair. So rather than see the game dry, I'd like too see them add a little variety to their coop heavy game.

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I don't know if we played the same game, but I've never experienced the Lotro community to be bad or hostile in any way, it was a quite nice and helpful community (at least on the forums and on my server; don't know about your server) - maybe apart from being a Moors player, but PvP always comes with a bit of hostility between the opposing factions I suppose. And I assure you Lotro was killed by the lack of challenging group content ... there was enough solo content, but honestly, the majority of MMO players wants to play a multiplayer game and not do their own thing all day long without ever grouping once, after all the multiplayer part is what sets a MMO apart from a single player RPG. As said, you have plenty of Single Player RPG options out there. What's the point of playing a multiplayer game, if all you do is trying to avoid contact with other players? I don't get it. I don't mind getting some single player options whatsoever, unless they don't hand out raid gear that way (like getting your relic weapon solo or farming philosophy/mythology stones solo and the like).

Agreed, it it's a multiplayer game. I did say I like to play with others, but I also like enjoying a game im paying monthly for. As it stands its almost impossible to do without dealing with very detrimental members of the community. All I was saying it's that both parties should be catered to. Just as we get new fates every*now and then, so too should we get single player quests and events. It's only fun to play with others when it doesn't inconvenience you. In this game you can hardly play at lvl 50 while trying to enjoy the story because it becomes FFXIV speed run.

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Agreed, it it's a multiplayer game. I did say I like to play with others, but I also like enjoying a game im paying monthly for. As it stands its almost impossible to do without dealing with very detrimental members of the community. All I was saying it's that both parties should be catered to. Just as we get new fates every*now and then, so too should we get single player quests and events. It's only fun to play with others when it doesn't inconvenience you. In this game you can hardly play at lvl 50 while trying to enjoy the story because it becomes FFXIV speed run.

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The question that bothers me in the first place is, why do you even pay a monthly fee for a game, that is obviously not suited for you (as you dislike the whole multiplayer/grouping part)? And as already mentioned, you do not have to deal with the detrimental members (and there are for sure quite a few of them) of the community - just search yourself a free company that fits to your playstyle and you are golden. I also don't know if you already realized this, but the story comes to an end at a certain point, so can't play the game for the story anymore, all that is left is the end game which I'm afraid isn't in your realm of interest. I don't like the speed running either, but I just visit the dungeons with my company and we have a blast in TS.

Again, I think ive stated clearly in my first post that its not that I hate multiplayer its that when its the only driving force of a game it kills it. Questing as a party is fun, same with dungeon runs. But at a certain point it loses its charm to. Its like grinding everything to 50 and getting all the best gear then bitching that the runs are too easy, makes no sense does it. The point of this thread was to put the thought of having some content be solo and other multiplayer would be nice. Would you honestly not enjoy fight a event boss on your own for once and not have to worry about lag, crashes, and dc's. Look at the odin fate thats horrible and the future of this game.

Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game. Yes, there is a certain... dynamic... in the "end-game" community, but I'd like to think that it's part of my responsibility to be the good I want to see in the world - albeit a digital fantasy world. My favorite part of this game is helping other people accomplish goals. Do I have my own? Sure, but I don't need them immediately. Helping my friends and random folk to get there only increases the pool of people with whom I can work/play later. That, to me, is what an MMO is all about.

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Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game. Yes, there is a certain... dynamic... in the "end-game" community, but I'd like to think that it's part of my responsibility to be the good I want to see in the world - albeit a digital fantasy world. My favorite part of this game is helping other people accomplish goals. Do I have my own? Sure, but I don't need them immediately. Helping my friends and random folk to get there only increases the pool of people with whom I can work/play later. That, to me, is what an MMO is all about.

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like ive said. its not the mmo aspect that bothers me, its a lack of options to do anything but. I do the same as you do, go around healing and aiding again, I do enjoy playing with others but id be nice the option to not depend on others to get through everything and have things you can enjoy on your own as well.

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like ive said. its not the mmo aspect that bothers me, its a lack of options to do anything but. I do the same as you do, go around healing and aiding again, I do enjoy playing with others but id be nice the option to not depend on others to get through everything and have things you can enjoy on your own as well.

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Ok, so you can have single player content...

But you won't get the best gear (if any) out of it.

No problems, right?

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Ok, so you can have single player content...

But you won't get the best gear (if any) out of it.

No problems, right?

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Not a problem in my book, unless its like a boss fight for an event like the FFXIII fate next november. But getting at least decent gear would be fine so long,as its not common. or better yet Gil so People who dont particularly like crafting can make some gil too.

My only issue with multiplayer is how much of the story forces you into dungeons. This would't be a problem if the Duty Finder wait times weren't so long for DPS classes. I hate tanking and healing,but the games forcing me to level up Tank class. With the hope being it will reduce my queue times. On a side note, this is the only Modern version of Final Fantasy on the PC currently, so I see no problem with people wanting more solo content. Their is no reason they can't cater content to Soloists and multiplayer. They could make story missions like Sastasha Seagrot or Tam-Tara Deepcroft solo. The level designs already there, just rework trash mobs and bosses HP,Damage,defense, and mechanics.

I really enjoy this game except for the forced multiplayer in the story.

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My only issue with multiplayer is how much of the story forces you into dungeons. On a side note, this is the only Modern version of Final Fantasy on the PC currently, so I see no problem with people wanting more solo content. Their is no reason they can't cater content to Soloists and multiplayer. They could make story missions like Sastasha Seagrot or Tam-Tara Deepcroft solo. The level designs already there, just rework trash mobs and bosses HP,Damage,defense, and mechanics.

I really enjoy this game except for the forced multiplayer in the story.

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They could add a difficulty slider letting players choose to challenge themselves or take a casual approach. Rewards could be based on difficulty the harder the run the better the loot. You could give them vanity items as an insentive for solo and high level gear for multiplayer.

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They could add a difficulty slider letting players choose to challenge themselves or take a casual approach. Rewards could be based on difficulty the harder the run the better the loot. You could give them vanity items as an insentive for solo and high level gear for multiplayer.

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i swear you not suit play mmo
many mmo i play and all end game content need party
incentive to solo?you mean no reward for solo?a mmo for play with other people, why mmo must give reason to player that soloing better?

Too the average player. Please read:

Please stop asking for multi player games to be more single player focused. There are tons of single players games out there for you.

SE Please read:
Please add more multi player content to your MMO. It is far to single player oriented to be considered a multiplayer game.

Its not to incentive solo play. Just give the option. Also name me a modern Final Fantasy game for PC, Final Fantasy 7 doesn't count its a re-release. I'm fine with giving less rewards for doing things solo, just give me the option so I can move the story ahead.

Hmm I smell a troll thread. Cant you smell it the odor is so strong

"I have not made friends and run with randoms, therefore I assume that everyone is obsessed with speed runs."

Try being a little more social.

This game focuses on single player enough as it is. Most story missions (except for three six dungeons) is entirely single player. Everything else is optional. There's too MUCH single player content as it is and many of the things you accomplish would make much more sense if you had done it as a group. As it is, most multiplayer content seems rather shoehorned in and that just makes me sad.
As for having a problem with the community, that IS a valid concern, there are lots of jerks out there, happens in any game where human beings play, just make friends and only play with them, or get a linkshell that's willing to do the overly abundant six pieces of necessary content. Oh, eight if you count AV and WP, but those aren't necessary unless you are doing side quests.

Massively Multiplayer Online RPG.

You're playing the wrong genre of game, buddy.

I agree it sucks when you keep getting bad groups, but that's what Linkshells and Free Companies are for.

I think the question is not about solo or multiplayer game really, that's not really what he said.
Though I wouldn't not agree to advancing the story through a solo version of a dungeon, I would love a solo experience of the dugeons and the Primals.
It could be a personal challenge and it would NOT replace any end game content.
Indeed I would welcome a MMO where you'd have the option to do some stuff on your own, NOT as a replacement of partying, but just to have a break, or meeting a challenge while waiting for your friends to be ready for a party. Please do not counter with the solo content of the game, I'm not talking about quests here, but about some fun, something challenging.
While levelling we have the option to do most of the quests solo OR with some friends, it would be nice to have a little of that option at endgame. Of course the rewards for such solo dugeons should be cosmetics, a title, a mini pet, nothing that would boost your raid gear!

That said, I can well imagine the difficulty to implement this with the problem of the trinity ( a tank or healer on their own? muhahaha! 100hrs for a fight!), but the idea mentioned above with a helpful npc could be a solution!

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Would it be too much to ask that you add more single player focused content to break the massive partying up a little bit, like a single player version of all 3 primals and have the scions of fate help you out. Because it is becoming rather taxing to my enthusiasm for this game to deal with the multiplayer and all the BS that comes along with it. Sure we get the occasional leaves and occasional single player quest here and there but the major consent is restricted for playing with other people and the community of this game is a little too on the must speed run everything and FU if you can't keep up dude of things. Would be nice if you took a hint from DCUO and added Duos single player versions of runs so that every one can get the full enjoyment of the game without having to be nailed to the duty finder or deal with unruly players. just a thought.

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Find a group, and play the game like the rest of us. I can't for the life of me figure out why you would pay a subscription fee to play by yourself...

Suckless, and all your QQing will go away.

This game is modeled after WoW so you are probably not going to be happy with the way things are going to go. My advice would be to check out games like GW2 and EQ2. If you play the right classes and have real skill for it you can basically do everything in those games solo or with one other person. EQ2 has a massive world to explore because its been out so long. Play a SK or an INQ and pick the appropriate merc. Then you can pretty much do everything up to the very very end game content solo. GW2 is a bit more difficult but with a warrior and a little patience you can solo most of the dungeons. There are a few that have mechanics which prevent that. Maybe more now since they made some changes to the dungeons. But still a lot of them should be doable.

FF14 is too well balanced class wise for that sort of thing to be effective however.

Some what edit although if anyone has found a way solo dungeon content with SMN/BRD or one the tanks, we should talk.

I bought Madden. I was horrified to learn there was so much football in the game. I wrote an angry letter to EA addressing the total lack of fantasy monsters in the game.

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Some what edit although if anyone has found a way solo dungeon content with SMN/BRD or one the tanks, we should talk.

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Summoners are able to solo some of the dungeons but it requires being in the best gear you can be at that level. Basically just spam heal your Titan Egi and... yeah. Not much else to it. Doesn't work for every dungeon, though.

Actually duos seem like a good idea to me, mini instances that reward lower lvl gear and what not.

Had them in DCUO and a tank and healer could finish one just fine, a lot of people just chose to take 2 DDs, but you could really run em with any of the roles combined.
Though I agree 2 healers running together isn't smart, but that's not a huge flaw..

I don't see why everyone starts foaming at the mouth just because the dude asked for solo stuff. You got your group content and plenty on the way, yet you guys jump on this guy for wanting to solo a boss or two?

Based on the way a lot of you have responded the dude is right, community is garbage..must be easy to trash talk while in a nice FC though..yet I have a nice one and still don't act so stuck up so I guess its on the person themselves..

I think there's too much solo-content as it is already. Bring back the perty systim, bring back the alliances and "Bring back the skill-chains"! LOL ;D

I believe people are foaming at the mouth because the OP wants the game to be 100% soloable, which is counterintuitive to the nature of MMORPGs.

You should be able to reach level cap solo-- and sure enough this can be done by grinding FATEs and mobs if you really want to-- but the primary experience that comes from playing a MMORPG comes from the MMO part. Sure you might not feel like being social every single day but it's really not hard to find a FC or a LS (or both) for people who are similar to you.