Some of you out there might see this as hate but I assure you this is not I love this game and it is one of the few that in the past decade that has held my interest for more than a few days. I would just like to point out some issues I have and ask if there are any planned fixes.
1- No report gold spammer feature. Really?
2- We cant expand all bags at once? or even sort by type?
3- Classes have no interacting skills? There are no set up then destroy skills across class! This has been a staple of my FF experiences, WTF happened?
4- gathering is a royal PITA I have to completely change gear to do anything! why cant I have one gathering skill that when I select the tool for it just automatically switches out to the best gear available?
5- Facial customization sucks. Maybe small to some people, but I want my char to look something like me so i can live vicariously through him, 4 faces with minimal structural changes ended up making me just choose bland face x and not caring.
5 days in first impressions
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10-13-2013, 04:55 PMOfiach5 days in first impressions
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10-13-2013, 05:04 PMAnimation
1. You can report them you just have to do it through an in-game system.. Which is annoying.
2.
http://gyazo.com/e38c04e2b969e12088b244e8d49cb236.png
That's all I have found.
3. Not sure what you mean.
4. I found gathering to be fun in the few hours I spent.
5. I agree here, CC is so bland and boring. -
10-13-2013, 05:51 PMOfiach
1- The report feature is so buried I had to come to the forums to find out where it is. That's just piss poor design.
2- I want to be able to open all bags at once to be able to sort my gear the way I want, I never even found that auto sort option before XD.
3- Basically there are no set up skills, it's just DPS, Tank, heal. There are none of the "when enemy is blinded this attack does 2x damage" nothing interacts between classes. IMO it makes combat pretty bland and wrote.
4- It's alright just find the whole ok switch out all gear, now switch back. OR run around only wearing gathering gear, a very annoying mechanic, I should be able to have mining and my main combat class up "at the same time" so i can mine and punch stuff in the face. That's just my opinion if there is a legitimate reason for this please tell me.
5- Yeah, and none of the toons have asses... seriously its like a board. -
10-13-2013, 06:32 PMMichelasso
1. It should get patched, hopefully. We'll see on Monday. Otherwise patch 2.10.
2. As above. Still, I've found it unbelievable myself. Please note there is a full sort menu in the marketboards when buying things, though!
3. Not sure what you mean. It seems a pretty standard FF combat mechanic to me
4. Well, as a (real) miner sure you could throw a pickaxe in the face of a enemy. Stats and gears would still be different, though. I'd say that if they put a simple attack option the character would be too weak. So they opted for stealth. In terms of realism it does make sense.
5. That is one of the things I personally care the less. But it's also true I suck on designing characters. I get so bored that I go random until I find a base that I like. :) -
10-13-2013, 06:55 PMsir_jack_in_the_boxGame experience thus far...
I found the game simply amazing up in till beating the end game boss in less than two weeks of play, the story was awesome to follow along with, the rewards along the way pretty sweet, and the end results of being part of this story pretty cool...
Problem I find my self having now is i feel i can go no place till they add more to the game "Furthering the story", I find myself constantly waiting to get into instances to have people rage quit and drop simply because they have a bad first wipe or two, due to the way the "class/jobs/crafting/farming" works I cant effectively Q for instances and work on crafting while I Waite so I find myself standing around waiting for Q's to fill and instances to go, other wise I have a very short window of seconds to navigate windows just to juggle gear sets and accept the Q... -
10-13-2013, 06:57 PMsir_jack_in_the_boxcontinued game experience thus far
In playing other MMO's it has never been an issue of gathering and defending ones self in the wilds, in this game one totally forgets they are a hero/warrior in order to dawn their work gear and gather leaving them selves open to the harsh elements...
In my opinion the malty classing has always been a cool point of a FF online character but I feel it is more of a burden in FFXIV than it was in FFXI...
The crafting system is just O.K., I find through other its just a bit of tinkering as you lvl to ultimately always get good quality goods with little chance of failure once you find the notch, the fast synthase is a good touch with the option to take the time to craft a quality item but I can never see myself choosing to craft over grinding for the only thing that matters at my point in the game, this being TOMBS... -
10-13-2013, 06:58 PMsir_jack_in_the_boxcontinued game experience thus far
I find myself maxing out SEALS with nothing to spend them on, TOMBS are the only thing at this point I can set some sort of vague goal to better my gear with a limited selection of two sets of gear, once thees set are bought after repetitively grinding the imitated selection of instance just to get TOMBS I will have nothing further to look forward to in till further content is added to the game...
My other problem is Gill, it would seem the only people that carry any sort of gill in the game is Players, the NPC's have been around longer than the players and yet the "intelligent" NPC's/MOBS are the only ones that seem to have maybe 2-4 gill on them at any time, I can se the idea as to why this is "to keep grinding from being a market breaker in game?" but.. I find this lame, for one the only way after lvl 50 to make gill is to ether play the market or levies, and due to Gill flow control one can only do so many levies in a days time so we are back to playing a broken market... -
10-13-2013, 06:59 PMsir_jack_in_the_boxcontinued game experience thus far
My biggest problem with the game thus far is the advertisements plaguing chats, yes one can filter them out at the cost of sealing ones self off from the rest of open chat or you can hassle with the "not so user friendly" blocking system of typing out full whacked out names of spammers as they constantly flow freely across the chat box totally flooding out conversation you might have found interesting this was a problem for the first two weeks of playing GW2" after that I have never seen another seller spam, GW2 had a simple users friendly right click the name and "report for" option to blocking un-wanted chat user's and they delt with them, all this from a free to play... I don't see the point in paying to see advertisements or having to hinder my chat experiences just to fight around advertisements...
This all may be a bit of rambling but I normally get out there in a round about way what other's and my self are thinking, so make of it what you wish... -
10-13-2013, 07:23 PMRyihito
^ FYI, you can edit your post to bypass the character limit.
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10-13-2013, 07:38 PMStarMarmot
As for switching gear sets, you can save set-ups in your character window, then with your sets list brought up, you can drag and drop your gear set icons to your hotbars for quick access. Still get cooldowns on combat skills when you switch which you have to wait out, but at least you won't have to fiddle with the menus.
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10-13-2013, 08:11 PMMaskedmarvel
For me those complaints are pretty minor and don't bother me that much , I just turn the spammer channels off , But there are 2 things in this game that really annoy me , the lack of story quests to the point that you have to go off and grind fates and such so you can get to the next level so you can continue the story and the side quests are as boring as hell , go pick 5 apples , take this tea to 3 guards , go get my grandfathers axe and theres not even enough of them to get to the next level. My other complaint is having group dungeons within the story, I gave up on my pugilist after sitting outside satasha for about 1and a half to 2 hours waiting for the duty finder to get me a game. now I enjoy a group dungeon now and then but they should be for things outside the main story, for end game and for grinding good gear and stuff, when they are stuck in the middle of the story they just bring the game to a halt.
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10-13-2013, 08:23 PMMichelasso
Yeah, the group dungeons are a mess indeed. If I join as a healer I usually take from 1sec to 5min to start. As a DPS it goes forever. The solution would be simple, though. SE would just need to add a 3rd DPS in the group. Yes, don't worry, it would make things faster not slower. because each healer/tank would "serve" 3 DPS instead of 2. Obviously the the difficulty should be made harder and they should give up more loot accordingly.
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10-13-2013, 10:13 PMEnkidoh1- Well, SE did kind of underestimate just how widespread RMT were going to be, hence the 'report' function is hidden away because it wasn't thought it would be needed to be in a more accessible location. But as has been mentioned, a 'one touch report' function is being added with the upcoming patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ofiach
2- It's not that difficult to switch inventory pages when sorting items. And pages are not divided by type, other than crystals and key items being on their own individual pages, so I don't know what you're complaining about here. I find it easy enough to keep items sorted into pages (one is for medicine and food, another for random items, another for armour overflow, and the fourth for weapon overflow).
3- As everyone else has said, I have no idea what you're asking for here. 'Set up and destroy'? This is a MMO - if you're wanting a powerful 'one-man-army' skill that guarantees you victory you will not find it here. I have no idea what FF game you've played but most FF games do not have what you are asking (if my example is what I think it is you want).
4- You can easily do what you're wanting by setting up a gear set to switch your equipment automatically at the touch of a button. It's accessed through the Character tab on your menu bar.
5- This is purely subjective - personally I thought there was a ton of character customization available - there was far more character customization options available than what we had in 1.0 anyway. With a little creativity and imagination I'm sure you could make a character very close to your real life appearance anyway. -
10-13-2013, 10:35 PMAeikaHe wants the complete opposite actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enkidoh
He is referring to "combo" attacks that some of the previous games have had.
For example, pretend I have a skill that does 300% damage and causes Daze if the enemy is stunned. However, my class doesnt have a stun.
You have a stun though. The only way for him to use it, is depending on you to stun the enemy.
So a tank could cast a stun, which enables him to use his skill and cause Daze, and the other DPS has a skill that has a bonus only triggered by Daze.
Boom, 3-man combo that relies on cooperation. -
10-13-2013, 10:49 PMEnkidoh
Ah, so in other words he wants FFXI-style skillchains? It's an interesting mechanic, and they were fun to pull off in FFXI, but the reason why that sort of system isn't in FFXIV is to stop class favouritism, which FFXI suffered from (parties would often discriminate against certain jobs simply because they wanted to do a certain skillchain which the enemies they were going to fight was weakest against, and which that Job didn't have the right weapon skill/elemental combination.).
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10-14-2013, 03:23 AMOfiach
It was done pretty well in a few of the other games, I never touched FF11 I was in the military and didn't have time for MMO's. Also thanks for explaining it in a way people could understand I guess cross class interacting skills isn't the right term. 1 more point, if there was discrimination against classes like that then SE didn't build boss fights and/or the skillchains correctly.
Also as I said these aren't game breaking they are just things that make me scratch my head and wonder.... how the hell could they make the game so solid but forget to put stuff like this in??
I also didn't realize you could put gear sets on the toolbars that makes things much easier, I guess I have another bone to pick. Why do we have to come to the forums or search around for features that should be made plain as day? Small improvements here and there can really add to a new players enjoyment. AND SE's cash income. -
10-14-2013, 12:17 PMOfiach
Ok one last thing, why the hell can't we use whispers when in dungeons or duties or whatever? Is this an accidental bug that happened or is there some reason behind it?
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10-15-2013, 01:37 AMNaberrieIt's more to do with the player base. Other jobs could get the job done. But players learned that if you took certain specific jobs then it was easier. And it was all about easier and faster. As much as people complain about wanting the game harder, they'll take every advantage to make it easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ofiach
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10-15-2013, 01:52 AMKosmos992kExcept this game does have inter-related combat skills., it's not skill chains as such through, it's the interdependence of the roles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeika
In combat, the Tank depends on the healer to stay up, but the healer depends on the tank to hold aggro. the tank depends on the DPS to take down adds and other things quickly while the tank manipulates the hate and keeps enemies facing them, DPS in many cases do their best damage from side or back attacks and depend on the tank maintaining hate to that enemies face correctly. Ranged and AoE DPS depend on the tank to maintain the grouping of mobs to pull off their AoEs ans stay clear of the aggro they generate. DPS need help from the healer, whenever aggro splits or adds arrive and the tank can't grab them immediately. Everybody depends on everybody.
I see a lot of people talking about tanks or healers always getting the blame when there is a wipe, often time tanks will blame DPS or healers, but the honest truth is that everybody depends on everybody else. If the DPS are not doing enough damage and working together tot take adds down quickly, the tank is put under too much pressure, requiring more healing from the healer, potentially splitting the aggro, if the tank can't hold aggro, everyone else is going to find mobs in their face, If the healer can't keep up with the damage being done to the tank and DPS, someone is going to fall. If the tank falls, it'll probably be a wipe, if the healer falls it will probably be a wipe, if one of the DPS falls it will probably slow down and ultimately be a wipe. Why? Because each role depends on the other.
The skills each player uses can set things up for the others. It's not a skill chain, it's about strategy and working well together. -
10-15-2013, 02:25 AMConradusThat's what gear sets are for. You don't generally switch classes by manually switching your primary tool, you activate a gear set that has all the gear you want for that class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ofiach
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10-15-2013, 05:59 AMNiwashiWell, aside from FF11, all the other FF games were single player games. Issues like class favoritism work out a bit differently in MMOs. Though I agree with you that cross-class skill dependencies could be really cool when they work, they apparently just got too hard to balance well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ofiach
Balancing can be one of the hardest things with MMOs. Developers are urged to create a wide variety of content, and yet still have all of that content equally playable by all classes, and yet at the same time make sure each class is unique in how they're played. Fitting all three of those requirements together can be a major challenge, indeed.
(Personally, I still think FFXI should have been called Final Fantasy Online, and FFXIV should then be Final Fantasy Online II. Single-player RPGs and MMORPGs are really two different genres, so these two are effectively a spin-off series.)