Variety in NPC stores and guild hours of operation.

One of the things that helped immersion in FFXI was the various guilds having specific hours that they were open, as well as the one day a week that they were closed. In addition to this, the amount of items available to purchase fluctuated, and of course the prices varied based on your level of fame. What I was wondering was if you guys would like to see something similar carried over to FFXIV? As of now, the time of day doesn't seem to matter much. Should guilds have hours of operation, or are you happy with how they are now? And do you guys like NPCs always having the same stock with set rates or would you rather see more fluctuation there?

Hellllll no.

Sure it helped immersion but it was also incredibly annoying. No thanks.

What about limited quantities of items per day? Or do you like how they infinite?

Nah this is something that shouldn't return.

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Originally Posted by Xeno

Sure it helped immersion but it was also incredibly annoying. No thanks.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Should guilds have hours of operation, or are you happy with how they are now? And do you guys like NPCs always having the same stock with set rates or would you rather see more fluctuation there?

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I like the way things are now. It means I don't have to schedule my play time around Vana'diel hours. The fluctuation thing happened in XI because guilds had limited stocks on things, and what would happen is people would buy out the stock of the guild and resell in the Auction House at a higher price. So no, I don't miss how things were done in FFXI.

I seriously think some of SE's fanbase is masochistic sometimes.

No to this. A resounding No.

I do think the shops should sell (items that were npc'd) and base the prices on the quantity in stock. This would make some items available that might not be in the markets.

The time of day/limited purchase really sucked... but did give a sense of camping the shops. I'm on the fence about limiting times to purchase... but leaning more towards NO dont do it.

Please, don't bring back the hours of operation system from FFXI. I'll never forget rushing into a guild store to buy an item and having it close on me before I could finish the purchase. Not only that, but the store didn't even actually close. The @$%& NPC stood right there at the counter the whole time. Nothing changed at all except for the fact that the NPC would tell you that you couldn't make any purchases until the store "opened". So for me it didn't increase immersion at all. It DID, however, increase frustration.

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Originally Posted by Aver

I seriously think some of SE's fanbase is masochistic sometimes.

No to this. A resounding No.

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All I'm asking for is a little breath of life to be blown into the world. I want NPCs that tell me to piss off because they're closed, and go home after a day's work, instead of standing there shuffling back and forth like they have to go to the bathroom 24 hours a day. NPCs with agendas, like in Majora's Mask or Oblivion, would go to great lengths at making Eorzea feel more alive. I mean, S-E did all this great mocap, then has all of the NPCs in the same position 99% of the time. You can call it masochistic if you like, but it would give there is a reason to pay attention to Eorzean time. The only time that matters now is real world time, i.e. when the next Behest is, when the leves reset etc.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

All I'm asking for is a little breath of life to be blown into the world.

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There's plenty of ways to do so without creating inconvenience to players who simply want to log on and do their thing. As I mentioned before, limited amounts suck because it means people buy out guild stock and resell them at higher prices. This is not a good thing.

Oh yes I was totally imersed when the NPC's just stood at the purchasing counters like rocks telling me they were closed.

agreed with the no thank you. Its not really immersion when you can still go in and they are still there anyway. Holiday sales or something sure, but no closing of shops, big shops in the reality dont close now so there isnt even that reason to do it

That really made the world feel alive. The ONLY thing I'd ask them to change is to please please remove the NPC 3d model from behind the counter when that happens and let the player just target a sign that states the open hours of the store.

I hated the fact that the lady selling fish lures apparently spends her time standing behind the exact same counter as during her work days. Even cooler would be the fact that they'd have some spots in the world they can be found at during their free days but that's me again asking for SE to do "fancy" stuff.

NO

How about the NPC's just change shifts 2 or 3 times a day, If its a quest NPC at the counter, you could just have them move to another spot in the guild or shop. Maybe sitting in a chair resting or brewing up a potion in the corner.

I think the guilds and shops should definitely remain open 24/7

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

One of the things that helped immersion in FFXI was the various guilds having specific hours that they were open, as well as the one day a week that they were closed. In addition to this, the amount of items available to purchase fluctuated, and of course the prices varied based on your level of fame. What I was wondering was if you guys would like to see something similar carried over to FFXIV? As of now, the time of day doesn't seem to matter much. Should guilds have hours of operation, or are you happy with how they are now? And do you guys like NPCs always having the same stock with set rates or would you rather see more fluctuation there?

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the problem with the shop system back then (especially with the limited amount of recources) were the rmt logging in (players did that too later on) and buy everything they could and this way increased a lot of prizes or even made it very hard for "normal" crafters to get the items they really needed for their crafts. It got manipulated way too much so i think we need to add immersion in a different way :)

Absolutely not.
If I want to log in for an hour to do some crafting at the guild, because I only have an hour to play tonight, I don't want to stumble on the hour that the guild I need access to is closed. That makes a game element potentially inaccessible to casual players, while the current 24/7 doesn't impact hardcores negatively. Why hurt one demographic at no gain to anyone else?

I thought it was a pretty cool concept in XI, sometimes it was irritating but I liked how it felt realistic :D i'm all for it again.

Sure add item camping at the guilds. Cotton bolls 200 gil each! Flax 500 Gil each! Gold ore 3k each! It'll give the bots something else to do, I think theyre getting bored.

Actually from day one of FFXIV that was something I was really excited about, that I could go to a shop buy what I want when I wanted and never have to worry about the shop being closed. That was one of the most idiotic non immersive things to me in FFXI. I love immersion but making something like that overly realistic makes it the opposite. It if a fantasy game why the hell would I want to wait an hour because to buy an item I really needed or wanted if I only had an hour or two to play? Please never consider this idea again SE, hell you should even take it out of FFXI.