In the SE fiscal year report, the PS3 release of FFXIV and of Final Fantasy Versus are NOT mentioned as upcoming releases.
Does this mean they are cancelled?
source: http://www.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/11q4release.pdf
PS3 release cancelled?
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05-16-2011, 12:54 AMZozorPS3 release cancelled?
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05-16-2011, 12:55 AMElkwoodMeans they are probably not out until next year. Vs. is like 95% complete I doubt they would cancel that release... XIV hinges solely on a knock out kick ass release on PS3, so this just probably means we will not see XIV on PS3 until Next year when the expansion content is ready to be released. Remember they are completely reworking XIV while it is live and we are Beta testing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozor
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05-16-2011, 12:56 AMZozor
That was my first thought - but this has a lot of people worried, so I was hoping someone would make an official statement.
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05-16-2011, 12:59 AMTheVedis
PS3 Isnt canceled
that whole report was discussed thoughroughly in another thread
remember SE has TONS Of projects running all the time, and FF14 is a project as a whole(ps3 and pc are the same basicaly if you consider releases) and they wont be canceling 1 without the other. and if they were going to cancel it would have been already -
05-16-2011, 01:03 AMZozor
Indeed we're all hoping for the best. I saw the other thread - I just wanted there to be one to pose this question specifically.
I think they're going to try to salvage FFXIV for PC, but it's unclear whether or not they think a PS3 launch will be worth the investment after all the bad press and one of the biggest financial losses ever.
I'm hoping someone will make an official statement that settles this once and for all. -
05-16-2011, 01:05 AMTheVedisthere is no "if" on the ps3 launch, they have the game ready, all they gotta do from here on out is make the initial patch biggerQuote:
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the development for the game itself is done -
05-16-2011, 01:06 AMChardrizard
FFXIV is actually one of their main focus.
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05-16-2011, 01:16 AMTonyMontana
Doesnt "Next year" start for them in october? Just wondering.
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05-16-2011, 01:16 AMZozor
We can all be confident that they're focusing on FFXIV for PC. It may even be true that the PS3 version is almost finished - but if they were planning to launch it, why not include it in the projection? If it's really almost finished, why would they wait another year?
The only things we know are
1) FFXIV forced SE to take a massive loss this year.
2) Launching FFXIV for PS3 costs more money
3) FFXIV is still losing money for SE every month
4) SE is working to improve SE for PC
5) SE did not report that they are planning to release on PS3 within the next fiscal year.
What that means for PS3 is grim, and yet people seem to think it's coming soon.
It would definitely help everyone if an announcement were made about this. -
05-16-2011, 01:19 AMMunba
If all goes well, i think ps3 version will be out in September.. one year later.
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05-16-2011, 01:19 AMTheVedis
PS3 base coding IS finished, that was announced a while back, months ago
all they gotta do now is update everything they are doing for the first ps3 patch when you install the game and they are set for its launch. -
05-16-2011, 01:20 AMDargoth_Draconia
Start of the fiscal year so yes technically still highly possible release in 2011.
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05-16-2011, 01:54 AMRydin
I think we'll know more about PS3 launch and Versus XIII at E3 this year... early june
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05-16-2011, 01:57 AMStarlordEven A Quick Mention and teaser Video would be niceQuote:
Originally Posted by Rydin
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05-16-2011, 02:04 AMZozor
It's nice that people can remain optimistic.
I'm certainly enjoying FFXIV and looking forward to the upcoming changes.
However, I still have to ask -
Why do you all think these things? People are saying the code for PS3 is finished. It may have been at one point, but that may not apply now. Updating according to the changes taking place might not be a simple task. Plus, it might not even be a development issue. Sony may not want it after all that's happened.
People have all sorts of guesses as to when the PS3 version will launch, but I have no idea upon what basis they make those estimates. -
05-16-2011, 02:06 AMTheVedisthe code for the disc is finisherdQuote:
Originally Posted by Zozor
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05-16-2011, 02:15 AMTonyMontanaAfter 7 months AND the game being free the whole time there is only 20-30k people playing. If SE wasnt planning on releasing a PS3 version this game would already be scrapped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozor
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05-16-2011, 02:20 AMorigamikitsune
SE told us they don't know when they are going to release PS3 version. They didn't announce it in projections. This supports that they don't know.
That is all it means. -
05-16-2011, 02:21 AMProxxExcept they aren't all about the PC version right now. The PC version is out, but its slowly dying. Yes, the upcoming changes are supposed to bring some players back. But even with all the improvements, any addition of players will likely be slow, and the amount of active players and size of the community may not increase fast enough to satisfy players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozor
Hence why SE NEEDS the PS3 release. If the game is much improved, then they can market the heck out of the PS3 version, release it to the public, and hopefully a large number of players will all jump onboard at once on day one of the PS3 release, and the community as a whole gets a huge shot in the arm.
That's why the PS3 version will not be cancelled. SE cannot simply rely only on the PC version at this point it time. Also keep in mind that while the PC market is heavily competitive in terms of MMOs, one can't say the same for the console market, and as such the PS3 version can succeed if everything falls into place. -
05-16-2011, 02:22 AMZozorI could eat that with onions - but it would be great for an official statement anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by origamikitsune
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05-16-2011, 02:25 AMFrebaut
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Got word back from Yoshida about the changes that they're planning to implement. Like I assumed, there aren't concrete details on what precisely is being done that I care share, but he said that along with the PS3 version development, they are performing optimization work to overall the core engine to make improvements.
The DEV is talking about "Overtaxation on hardwear" Post. Hay guys if you ever read the DEV posts you can answer this PS3 question yourself. It's amazing what you can find if you read. Look Yoshida mentioned the PS3.... WOW, Now this stupid thread can get closed. -
05-16-2011, 02:34 AMElexiaNo it doesn't and I wish people would really stop all of this doom and gloom. People also believe SE isn't a multi billion dollar (yen) company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozor
Let's break it down.
#1. Incorrect. The earthquake/tsunami forced every business to take a loss, not to mention the electrical issue hurts productivity as well.Quote:
1) FFXIV forced SE to take a massive loss this year.
2) Launching FFXIV for PS3 costs more money
3) FFXIV is still losing money for SE every month
4) SE is working to improve SE for PC
5) SE did not report that they are planning to release on PS3 within the next fiscal year.
#2. Incorrect, FFXIV is already launched and it's a cross platform title, therefore the only money spent would be pressing the PS3 disks and even then it could be offered as a DL over PSN.
#3. Doesn't hurt the PS3 version in any way, because the money loss on XIV is heavily outweighed by the money FFXI alone pulls in.
#4. Not sure what this means but it has nothing to do with PS3 version.
#5. SE did report they're ready to release the PS3 version when they feel XIV is ready to be "relaunched." -
05-16-2011, 02:42 AMZozor
1. Sure the tsunami forced a loss as well. There are plenty of other things that caused a loss for SE in 2011, but FFXIV did lose a huge amount of money. There's no denying that.
2. If launching the PS3 version didn't take any effort or money, then why were there so many posts (like the one above) in which devs have stated they were working on it? It's not as simple as putting the PC version onto a disc. They didn't make one cross-platform piece of software. They had to take one version and use it to make the other, which is one of the reasons PS3 didn't launch last September.
3. FFXI makes money, sure. SE makes money all sorts of ways. I'm not saying SE is doomed. I'm just saying that a company may choose not to throw good money after bad. While all of this has been going on, in spite of whatever commitments may have been made regarding the PC version, enough fans are SCARED that they won't see a PS3 version because of the failed PC launch.
4. There was a typo in that ; ;... SE is working to improve FFXIV for the PC. I just meant that the amount of effort being put into the PC changes SHOULD be huge, and by all accounts IS. This delays the PS3 launch so we shouldn't expect it to happen soon because there's a lot more development to do. So why then isn't it projected for the following fiscal year?
5. Yes but they're being awfully vague with us. Their official document says something that has alarmed some of their fans. They could be nice and clear it up. I'm not the only one with concerns about this I'm sure. -
05-16-2011, 03:00 AMorigamikitsune#5 Because the absolute worst thing they can do right now is make a promise and then break it. That burned them so bad on PC release that they can't do it again. Giving a projected release and then failing to meet it, even by a day or two, would just cause the same problem they're in now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zozor
They have said they are working on it. They have said they don't know when it will be ready. They have said they won't announce it until they are absolutely, positively, sure that it is ready.
So far, everything confirms that. -
05-16-2011, 03:37 AMyukikaze_yanagiThis quote is just few days ago. Why then ps3 version gonna be scraped, if they confirmed is under development right now ? BlaaaaaaQuote:
Originally Posted by Frebaut
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05-16-2011, 03:38 AMTheVedisbecause its not gonna be scrappedQuote:
Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi
its the doom theorists spreading rumors as usual -
05-16-2011, 03:43 AMNuru
Its just undecided as of now. It depends on when they can make this game above satisfactory level.
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05-16-2011, 05:01 AMAltano
*popcorn munching*
PS3 release will happen when they are satisfied that they will make money off it. Let me highlight the important part of that phrase for all the people who are predicting (almost seem to be hoping for, at a certain point) FFXIV's immediate demise:
PS3 release will happen. -
05-16-2011, 06:20 AMSeirra_Lanzce
man.. you should read up that Dev Track, PS3 is not going to cancel. <_< and if it's scrap, they will already for so long announce it. But they didnt, so nope. yada. non. :)
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05-16-2011, 06:54 AMCairdeas
They already said that the List in that page did not include already announced projects.
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05-16-2011, 06:58 AMEvangela
cancel all and release them on PC instead ;)
consoles era must die!! -
05-16-2011, 07:02 AMAshTS
It's completely believable that they would scrap the PS3 version. It's completely believable that they still go to mint with it. This would not be the first time a game has had it's console counterpart scrapped due to poor sales. (AoC was announced for 360 back in the day, but Funcom pulled it, it's the same thing here)
SE has lost about 30% of their assets in the latest forecast .pdf. FFXIV hurt. Lack of sales in console games hurt. Spending the money to finish porting XIV to PS3 (Which isn't complete, BTW, but it's like throwing money in a well to finish either) might not be an option for them at this point until they gain ground in other areas. (They want to buy a few more IPs and create 2 new IPs for SE for instance)
They will not scrap the PC version, I don't think. It will still take them a year or two to get back into black on this project, but it's possible. Trying to sell boxes for PS3 with Tera and GW2 on the horizon might be a suicide mission.
Or maybe they left XIV off the slides due to an oversight or other error. Companies usually don't tell you if they scrap a game or something goes into dev hell. I don't think Funcom has annoucned that AoC isn't coming to 360 still and that's two years in the past.
The point in the "doom sayer's rumors" or whatever is that... this is a believable scenario now. Also, how does Wada still have a job? -
05-16-2011, 07:02 AMSeirra_LanzceNAY! I Disagree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Evangela
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05-16-2011, 07:03 AMAshTSIt said that line up was ONLY previously announced projects ><;Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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05-16-2011, 07:46 AMBetelgeuzahThis is such bs I think the definition of the word should be officially changed to illustrate the ridiculousness this sentence.Quote:
It's completely believable that they would scrap the PS3 version.
It would make complete sense to scrap the version of a game whose fanbase lies almost exclusively on the console environment. It makes complete sense to try to chase after the same pool of players every single MMO developer is after instead of catering to the people who are a) less critical about the end product as long as the brand name is intact and b) less likely jump ship due to the same brand name as well as the fact that aside from some random superhero MMO that does not even appeal to the same audience they have absolutely no competition on the platform.
To give a bs example to a bs statement AoC is named, to further strengthen the headache I am about to get.
Since the Conan franchise is mainly based on consoles and has a strong following on 360, not to mention Funcom, a console developer who did not run out of money while trying to salvage their product. All this taken into account, it is no surprise why AoC is being compared to XIV- the situations are nearly identical after all!
Now if SE seemed like it was giving up on the project that would mean no PS3 version as well, unfortunately they seem to be doing the complete opposite.
"Hey guys, let's ignore the majority of fans of the franchise and chase after the players we already lost in an environment with dozens of competitors!" -
05-16-2011, 08:04 AMAshTS
Yeah, there hasn't totally been a PS3 MMO released this year to almost bomb itself off the console. No, sir.
Conan has only had one game made on a platform that wasn't a computer. Funcom hasn't made a console game since the Sega Saturn. Funcom definately had to cut it's staff 20% due to AoC and could no longer afford to port their MMO to a console. A console that would have had like zero competition. (There is 1 MMO on 360). So yeah, they are a bit similar. Game tanks on PC, port gets cancelled.
Do you... even think about what you are saying or do you just blurt stuff out? -
05-16-2011, 08:04 AMSynapse
PS3 version would never be cancelled, its like the only thing thats gonna bring in players, as well as rebirth of FFXIV, hopefully.
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05-16-2011, 08:07 AMRenshi
Your face is gonna get cancel- I mean:
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05-16-2011, 08:08 AMAlexiaKidd
Anyone who thinks the PS3 release is cancelled is an idiot, that is there main lifeline for the game to be a success. The only reason it hasn't launched yet is because the game is not in a state for another major release. The PS3 release could potentially net them millions of players why would they throw that away. If they released it now they would get a load of people buy it and then it would drop off rapidly as people wouldn't like it in it's current state. They are waiting until they have the game up to a standard that will enable them to keep those players interested and more importantly, paying a monthly subscription.
Also the PS3 version is complete it was ready to go in November they could launch any time they like. The main reason they gave for not launching now was because there are so many updates at the minute they wanted to wait until they had everything finalised and updates would slow down.
The news that SE have cancelled some of their projects is actually encouraging as to me it means they are moving their teams to make sure the games they are putting out are of the best quality they can achieve. SE has taken a big hit recently and it has tarnished their reputation so now they are focused to reclaim their status as a triple A developer once more and to do that they need to pull people off of other projects so they can focus on their core franchises.
Also I wouldn't look to much into Conan on the 360 being cancelled as that was most likely down to MS, they seem to be in stopping every Dev putting an MMO on the 360 recently, they even put a halt to FFXIV as SE openly stated that they want to have it on 360 but there are some issues with MS. -
05-16-2011, 10:04 AMKuroguma... hi AlexiaQuote:
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