Why is FF XIV so gold seller friendly???

First of all, there's no report button. Just a blacklist which I'm assuming is /ignore. I use blacklist for annoyances, not just gold spammers.
Secondly, theres no ignore option when you click the spammers name. You have to type out every ridiculous concoction that the sellers come up with.
Thirdly, if you use a ps3, which I do, typing is a nightmare.
I may be off here, but it really seems like you are encouraging the in game gold selling. You guys getting a piece of that pie since you're still p2p? Please enlighten us as to why you seem to leave out basic spam prevention that's included in every decent MMO out there....

There is a report button. Start > System > Support Desk > Contact Us tab

They are also implementing a right click > blacklist next patch.

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Originally Posted by Akuha

There is a report button. Start > System > Support Desk > Contact Us tab

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That's like four different buttons you have to hit. Also is a PITA where in all other MMO's there is a right click and report or some Quick (key word) to report and move on.

With the set up, as is, not many if anyone is going to make the effort to go through that report option every time spammed.

Glad that they are at least, from what Estellios says, that a click blacklist is coming soon.

I suggest you get a USB Keyboard if you don't have one since your playing on ps3.

I play on ps3 as well.

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Originally Posted by Krazarian

That's like four different buttons you have to hit. Also is a PITA where in all other MMO's there is a right click and report or some Quick (key word) to report and move on.

With the set up, as is, not many if anyone is going to make the effort to go through that report option every time spammed.

Glad that they are at least, from what Estellios says, that a click blacklist is coming soon.

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I said there was a report button, I didn't say it was convenient to use.

If you think these companies aren't getting a cut of the gold spammer pie you're insane. It's just good business sense to take advantage of the income goldsellers make.

I play on ps3 as well and I got the Sony text pad for it and it works like a charm allows me to do everything and chat at the same time they don't make then but I found mine used

i jus saw a teleporting botter that hunts dimerite =.='

i got a video, can i report this?

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Originally Posted by Ofiach

If you think these companies aren't getting a cut of the gold spammer pie you're insane. It's just good business sense to take advantage of the income goldsellers make.

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Going against their own ToS? Unlikely if not even illegal. Still I wonder were all those zillions gils come from. If I understood correctly to only way to make money is to get it from the other players. But since at least up to lvl 30 we all just make only few thousands gils from quests it doesn't make much sense. Unless one can get rich at the highest levels.

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Originally Posted by L33K

i jus saw a teleporting botter that hunts dimerite =.='

i got a video, can i report this?

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Yes, go to Start > System > Support Desk > Contact Us and there choose the fitting option.
In the report include the botters name, world(server), location and describe what he is doing. Additionally you can upload the video to youtube and add the link to it to the report.
But don't expect him to be gone soon, it takes quite some time.

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Originally Posted by Wolfrisger

there's no report button.
You have to type out every ridiculous concoction that the sellers come up with.
if you use a ps3 typing is a nightmare.

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You can copy and paste, no need to type any of the names manually. The fastest way to add to blist is to select the name in the chat, choose tell then change /tell Spamming Moron[SPACE] to /blist add "Spamming Moron" (dont forget to remove tailing space added by tell command) and it's done. If you highlight and copy the name before hitting enter on the blist command you can also paste it into the report form as well. Takes few seconds to do it all. If you're being targeted by spam tells, set this macro on your cross bar - it will blist last person who /tell on you:
/blist add <r>

To get to the report form just type /support in the chat line. I do agree though that blisting and reporting should be direct option on the right click menu in chat or player select.

Finally - why would be typing on PS3 (ay more) nightmare than on PC? Unless you're not actually using the normal keyboard which - considering ARR is MMO - is pretty much insane ...

"But there is a report button on display. . ."
"On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."
"That's the display department."
"With a torch."
"Ah, well the lights had probably gone."
"So had the stairs."
"But look, you found the button, didn't you?"
"Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard."

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Originally Posted by Ofiach

If you think these companies aren't getting a cut of the gold spammer pie you're insane.

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The fact that you think Square is getting a cut from them is insane.

Square bans THOUSANDS of accounts that are owned by RMTs every week. Hell, the first 3 days of the game saw about 8000 accounts belonging to RMTs banned. Square has an entire department of employee's whose sole job is to investigate RMTs, and ban them. In fact, square devotes more energy to removing them, then any other MMO. Is it square's fault that banning accounts and blocking IPs doesn't stop it all from happening?

As long as idiots keep using RMTs, and no one takes legal action against them, then they'll always be there.

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Originally Posted by Wolfrisger

Thirdly, if you use a ps3, which I do, typing is a nightmare.

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No, no it's not. It's called spend the 15 bucks at for a cheap USB keyboard. Problem solved. And Typing without a keyboard isn't that hard either. You're probably someone that probably looks at text messaging on phones that don't have a full keypad as barbaric.

If you're not willing to make things easier for yourself when the options are available, then you've no right to complain.

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Originally Posted by Slatervonjager

Square bans THOUSANDS of accounts that are owned by RMTs every week. Hell, the first 3 days of the game saw about 8000 accounts belonging to RMTs banned. Square has an entire department of employee's whose sole job is to investigate RMTs, and ban them. In fact, square devotes more energy to removing them, then any other MMO.

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They may devote a lot of energy to it, but that energy isn't as productive as it could be if they'd give themselves the proper tools. Besides simplicity for the players, the real benefit of having a "report this" option in the chat box's right-click menu is the way that can be tied to the chat itself. As it is, players have to go into the report form and describe what happened, after which someone at SE has to do a search in their log files to verify whether that's what actually happened. If the reporting was done based on a particular chat entry, the tool itself could supply SE with not only a report but that chat entry itself from which someone generated that report. At that point, all it would take is a glance to identify whether the report is a valid case of RMT spam. There would be far less effort needed in investigating it and these accounts could be blocked immediately.

Of course, by itself that doesn't take care of the actual RMT, just the spam advertising it, but that alone would be a huge benefit to the game (plus put a major dent in RMT's profitability). All they need to do is make sure an account that sends this spam doesn't last long enough to make back the cost of setting up the account. At that point, the advertising for RMT would move off the game onto third-party sites. (They'll still need other, more complicated tools to take care of the rest of the RMT itself.)

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if you use a ps3, which I do, typing is a nightmare.

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No, no it's not. It's called spend the 15 bucks at for a cheap USB keyboard. Problem solved. And Typing without a keyboard isn't that hard either.

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In all fairness, it does make sense to play through the first part of the game before getting a keyboard, and the spammers don't leave new players alone any more than they do anyone else. I played with just the PS3 controller until I reached level 18 and was going to start running dungeons. In that solo-focused introductory part of the game, the only times I had to deal with the PS3's on-screen keyboard was to log in and to blacklist spammers (and for the latter it got rather annoying). By the time I reached group content, I'd had time to decide I liked the game enough I'd stick around a while, so that's when it became worth buying a keyboard for it.

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Originally Posted by HEC

Finally - why would be typing on PS3 (ay more) nightmare than on PC? Unless you're not actually using the normal keyboard which - considering ARR is MMO - is pretty much insane ...

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Nah, it's not insane. There is nothing that can't be done in game on the PS3 with a controller and for low income players like myself, no need to go buy a keyboard and mouse when the controller works perfectly, the game is designed with controllers in mind. Chatting just takes a little extra effort. ^_^

Gotta love the dolts that rush in to defend this crap. The answer is to spend money? Great marketing. When I left to post this yesterday, it was because a gold spammer call Asdasf Asfa was spamming nonstop in chat. I have two accounts, one on ps3, and one pc. I play on the ps3, but could see the spammer on my monitor. He hasn't stopped since. Log on right now and he's going strong on Zalera sever, Steps of Nald. Yeah great reporting system...

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Originally Posted by LordWyrme

Nah, it's not insane. There is nothing that can't be done in game on the PS3 with a controller and for low income players like myself, no need to go buy a keyboard and mouse when the controller works perfectly, the game is designed with controllers in mind. Chatting just takes a little extra effort. ^_^

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No, its not too hard, unless your in the middle of a group. You just gonna stand there, while everyone fights around you, typing your blacklist name? Good luck with that.

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Originally Posted by Wolfrisger

spammer call Asdasf Asfa was spamming nonstop in chat.

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It's SOOOOO hard to turn off shouts and yells for your chat. Seriously, if you're annoyed that badly, turn off the ability to even see it. Not hard to do.

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Originally Posted by Slatervonjager

It's SOOOOO hard to turn off shouts and yells for your chat. Seriously, if you're annoyed that badly, turn off the ability to even see it. Not hard to do.

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I got so annoyed by it in my first couple days playing that I filtered shouts out of my chat, left it that way and forgot about it for almost a month, until I turned them back on yesterday. Suddenly Quarrymill is a lot more... 'active'.

@ Slatervonjager It's obvious you're very loyal to SE and they most definitely deserve loyalty from their gamers unlike EA or SOE. However, being a dick to people for complaining about a huge issue in game just pushes you right over into the fanboy column.

Now that that's out of the way. You made the assertion that SE expends more energy than any other MMO company in smashing gold spammers. Well, allow me to retort.

Why in this day and age when the technology is already pioneered would you not add the *right click "playername" -> report gold seller* feature? You say SE devotes more energy than any other MMO to removing these gold sellers, but they don't give us the tools as players to easily report them, do you see how that argument doesn't add up?

When I started 3 days ago there were 2 gold spammers, when I logged in today those same 2 gold spammers were in the same spot. If it takes 3+ days to ban hammer a bot your system is broken or you don't care, one or the other.

This thing about the lack of a report option for gold spammers is equivalent to the lack of sorting in the inventory. I couldn't believe myself when I couldn't find it. But guess what? There is a sorting feature in the marketboard!

I think it is just a bad design in the most trivial things. Crazy because they managed to do quite a decent job making the game playable with the controller. Hopefully all that crap will be patched soon on patch 2.05 (coming out october 15 if you missed the announcement)

@ michelasso I hope you're right. I have alot of issues "in miniature" with this game. Perhaps this is just something else that they just went full derp on and didn't think of.
I'm not saying they made a bad game here, I just really think they totally spaced on alot of really necessary simple functions. This is the first MMO since DAOC that I really want to explore, so don't take my criticism as hate. I like it but I will point out where things should improve at least IMO.

Also I have family in Italy and visited for the first time this year love your country! :D (Italy that is)