Titan Hard Mode Lagg

Now I am fully expecting flames here, let me just get that straight first off lol.

But I am just a bit sick of the lagg in the Titan fight.. I am on an EU server IN the EU but from what I have heard the servers sit in Canada. I believe this is a major cause of people finding it SO hard to clear Titan on my server and also why our servers (titan win you can have this) are charging x2 what other servers do cos they recognise it too.

It took me quite a lot of wipes to learn the rotation.. not for dodgings sake.. but for predodging. I have to move before the warning lights..because if i am not moving i am probably gonna get hit EVEN if on my screen I am out of the aoe.

now I have learned to pre-dodge. and in 3 hours today i only legit died 3 times. but there are 7 other people who are having this problem.

Is it a server problem? is it the animations not lining up with the damage? it needs to be sorted..

Titan HM isnt that hard, its the issues surrounding it causing us grief.

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Originally Posted by DenzelTaru

(titan win you can have this) are charging x2 what other servers do cos they recognise it too.

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Just to catch a pre-flame here.. no I do not want to pay for a win.. I just know they want double on our server lol

I dunno if you are talking about the random lag spikes cause those have been affecting a lot of people lately, and I'd imagine it's because the Duty Finder servers are getting swamped with the amount of people playing and is likely the reason for the DF server expansions coming I think next week.

As far as getting hit after moving out of AOE though, it is super rare for everyone in my group, and we have some EU and JP with us on our NA/EU server.

North American here, I live in the southwest. There are EU players in my FC that have a better ping than me and I get along in Titan just fine. While there is lag and they need to fix the goddamn latency issues, that's no reason to say "b-but the laaaag I can't win!"

You can avoid other weights by spreading out, you and your party members. Dodging one weight is a joke. Even more so with legacy controls on.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

As far as getting hit after moving out of AOE though, it is super rare for everyone in my group, and we have some EU and JP with us on our NA/EU server.

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As far as latency goes.. i mean getting hit by a plume after you have left the area.. an example of this.. if i find myself in the middle of the plume or am running the wrong way through it and taking a longer time to get out.. I know I will be hit and have enough time after clearning the AoE to toggle through my party to me (on a gamepad (on PC)) and hit cure.. before the plume goes off and i will still be hit..

If this happens on land slide which is rarer, once i have cleared it i start running toward titan because i know i am gonna be hit and fly backwards and i was to avoid falling off.

This is the latency alot of us seem to be struggling with.

It also helps immensely if someone knows the rotation and makes a macro with <se.9> or some other sound effect in it and uses it whenever Weight of the Land is the next move coming up.

As far as weights go usually if you don't know they are coming and don't move immediately you are getting hit. The best thing to do if you get caught with your pants down is to try to run towards where there is only one Weight circle as one will very likely not kill you. Even the best of us will get hit with Weight of the Land but as long as you don't freak out you can easily survive them.

Titan is a lot easier when you figure out you don't have to remember the entire rotation. You really only need to know:

After 1st jump: Weights after Tumult

2nd Jump until the post-heart: Weights after Landslide

Post-heart: Buster > Tumult > Weight alternating with Buster > Weight.

Surviving that initial series of Buster > Tumult > weight is really key in winning as the rotation is easier to follow after that, IMO. Everyone can move in for AOE heals once someone gets caught in the Gaol as there are no Weights between that and the Stomps, then move out once the stomps are finished so you don't stack Weights on top of each other.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

North American here, I live in the southwest. There are EU players in my FC that have a better ping than me and I get along in Titan just fine. While there is lag and they need to fix the goddamn latency issues, that's no reason to say "b-but the laaaag I can't win!"

You can avoid other weights by spreading out, you and your party members. Dodging one weight is a joke. Even more so with legacy controls on.

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you are correct it is party make up too and coordination.. and my FC is working on a static group.. but as you said the latency still exists and needs to be sorted. I certainly don't blame my losses ON latency but I believe it is a major factor

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

North American here, I live in the southwest. There are EU players in my FC that have a better ping than me and I get along in Titan just fine. While there is lag and they need to fix the goddamn latency issues, that's no reason to say "b-but the laaaag I can't win!"

You can avoid other weights by spreading out, you and your party members. Dodging one weight is a joke. Even more so with legacy controls on.

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Nice to know that an MMO in the year 2013 can get away with this for you.

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Originally Posted by DenzelTaru

you are correct it is party make up too and coordination.. and my FC is working on a static group.. but as you said the latency still exists and needs to be sorted. I certainly don't blame my losses ON latency but I believe it is a major factor

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This is really what your issue is if you are just grabbing random people even from a FC. This fight is just something you get attuned to. After our first win it became a lot easier for everyone involved, and the people that kept dying constantly are now lasting the entire fight 90% of the time. Once you get used to it everyone's reaction time just seems to get better as now even if I mess up calling out the weights we rarely have anyone get hit.

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Originally Posted by DenzelTaru

you are correct it is party make up too and coordination.. and my FC is working on a static group.. but as you said the latency still exists and needs to be sorted. I certainly don't blame my losses ON latency but I believe it is a major factor

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Risae

Nice to know that an MMO in the year 2013 can get away with this for you.

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Where did I say that it's acceptable for SE to have the latency issues?

I lag so much during this fight that at times Titan will completely disappear or teleport - ie he already jumped in the air for Geocrush or whatever that aoe attack is. The worst phenomenon I've seen is where Titan will use Landslide in one direction, then the Landslide ground effect will teleport and erupt in a completely different direction. It's hilarious and immensely frustrating at the same time. I noticed I get the worst lag around 5pm and on, you know, when people with responsibilities like me get out of work and it's the only time of day we can play, of course. The weekend is horrible as well.

You have so much lag, you did input a second "g" on the word. That probably makes the fight harder!

But for now, the key to winning the fight is memorizing the order and moving beforehand.

There appears to be one duty finder server we connect to, that must be in JP. Because no matter what your running, primals, or dungeons, there will be a DF you are on where the lag is more intense. Being from NA i gripe when i get on that server, cause i experience that same issue, you appear to be out of the red, but you get hit anyways. Anytime I'm tanking say ifrit, and I notice I'm getting hit when i shouldn't, I can usually adjust, and maybe get out of getting hit 90% of the time, but i have a deep sigh because i know this laggy DF server is going to tackle most new people relentlessly. This really only started the last update where they mentioned something about DF improvements. It seems your randomly placed on a JP DF server occasionally.

I start having lag issues in all instances every day after 7pm GMT+1 (UK time). Before that I have no issues but after it can get so bad I'm unable to play. However, before this "instance lag" as I call it starts happening, I have no problems evading Titans moves as EU player. Because of it, however, we've had to cancel some late night events for our FC and I've decided not to even try doing anything after 8pm UK time.

In short, I don't feel the problem is the server location but the duty finder servers that are under way too much stress. Luckily they're working on doing something to this mid-October.

While not related to internet lag, here's a tip for those who play on PS3.

Check your TV settings. Modern TVs will often have a "Game Mode" setting. With "Game Mode" off, the TV does post processing on images to make them look nicer but effectively adds lag! In some cases, depending on how cheap your TV is, it can be 100+ milliseconds! Turning "Game Mode" on should disable the post processing and eliminate the additional lag.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Post-heart: Buster > Tumult > Weight alternating with Buster > Weight.

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Post Heart is actually; Tumult first, then weight of the land. Tumult and Weight are always together after heart. The other combo to look out for is Boulder bombs and Landslide. Titan will always start the boulder bombs and while you are running to the last one to wait he will do a landslide.

An easy way to deal with his tumults x8 is to get hit by them, wait for weight of the land, run out of it when it spawns and then get healers to heal up the pt.

After heart Titan combos his attacks. They are very predictable. Warm up your fingers first OP :).

He does mountain buster immediately when the final phase starts, the tumults, then weight of the land so Buster > Tumult > Weight. I meant that [ Buster > Tumult > Weight ] alternates with [Buster > Weight] since it might be easier for some people to look out for Buster or even Landslide instead of having to memorize the entire rotation.

Its not just you my friend http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ething./page88 88 pages full of people with the same issues and not just in Titan. No response from SE.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

He does mountain buster immediately when the final phase starts, the tumults, then weight of the land so Buster > Tumult > Weight. I meant that [ Buster > Tumult > Weight ] alternates with [Buster > Weight] since it might be easier for some people to look out for Buster or even Landslide instead of having to memorize the entire rotation.

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good piece of advice I was given as a healer

"if you see a landslide.. he is about to buster"