So, I was needing to kill banemites for my huntlog as a bard. Got to the zone, and there was a geared blm running back and forth farming em. So I say, 'mind if I tag a couple? just need em for my hunt log'. He/she says nothing, so I wait for them to spawn again, and tag one, then two. The blm grabs the one with more health, lets it aggro him then runs off til it deaggroed then came back to kill it with a single attack after its aggro had reset.
What has to be going through a person's mind when they actively grieve someone like that?
Needless to say, I got my three mites eventually having to compete with that... crap. Little did the poxy griever know I had a 50 blm too :P /followed him for about five mins stealing drops and out pulling him a few times, the guy still didn't say anything. What would y'all have done? And is it common on other servers for people farming to be just plain...
I know it wasn't a bot, just a... word that I won't say here :rolleyes:
A griefer story
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10-10-2013, 12:50 AMAmyasA griefer story
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10-10-2013, 12:55 AMHiirNoivl
It was one mob. Why is this a thread???? o.O?? can't you just tell your LS or something?
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10-10-2013, 12:57 AMAmyasAn entire zone of mobs >< And no, I want this to be a thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
Getting 'revenge' on a person that just disrespected you ain't the same as being a d***wraith to randoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi
Purposely manipulating 'claimed' mobs for the sole purpose keeping another player from getting credit is the definition of 'griefing'.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
'there first'
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That's not how this game works, 'dude'.
guy was one and two-shotting with scathe :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle
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10-10-2013, 12:57 AMRin_KuroiMaybe someone grieved (griefed?) him in the past and he was just taking out his frustration. You seemed okay with doing that. Why not him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
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10-10-2013, 01:05 AMHiirNoivlWell you asked him if you could tag a couple for Hunting log... you got your answer. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
It's not griefing if he was there first dude. -
10-10-2013, 01:12 AMRubenSnizzle
As long as you do 1/3 of dmg on the monster, you get the drop/quest drop or w/e from the monster.
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10-10-2013, 01:12 AMLeowilde
Some people don't care about respect. It doesn't matter who came first - him actually untagging your mobs was kinda lame. But then again, no surprise. Yay MMOs. -.-
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10-10-2013, 01:12 AMGriever92
This was very informative, thank you.
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10-10-2013, 01:16 AMKeresI've gotta write that one down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
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10-10-2013, 01:22 AMGaran
This is silly. Someone leveling on Apkallu's tried to tell me to stop stealing all the mobs because I was farming them on my BRD. Your leveling/hunting log is no more important than someone's farming. Do I think it was probably a d*ck move to not give you a couple? Yes, I do. Oh well though just move on to the next log and come back later. Kind of pointless to post.
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10-10-2013, 01:26 AMAmyasI take it you purposely reset aggro on mobs that lowbies already have tagged just so they won't get credit? That seems to be what you're defending.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garan
You create an atmosphere like that, and you'll get it right back. Tbh, I didn't rage at the guy or anything. Just silently /followed as a blm after I got my log after about 10 mins of competing with that crap, and out pulled em until I got bored xD I did switch to my whm and give him a SS and regen before I left though, wonder what he thought of that...
You're right, your post was kind of pointless. You knew what the thread was about, and apparently its 'pointless' to you, so why post and bump it up? Evidently its has more 'point' to you than you like to think ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Garan
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10-10-2013, 01:41 AMfixitman
I was farming toad skins a few days ago, and saw another character casting what I thought were random spells around a set of three toads. He wasn't damaging them after about 30 seconds, so I figured he wasn't interested in them. I tagged and killed them, and continued my farming circle. About the third time around, he sent me a /tell, stating he was trying to sync those three toads' spawns so he could AOE them. He asked if I could leave those three alone. There was no anger or attitude, and I happily replied "NP". Those three toads were his for about a half-hour, when another player arrived and ignored both of our kind requests to leave those three alone. I was done farming by then, and eventually gave up trying to help.
There are good people and there are jerks everywhere. Who you have to deal with is just a matter of perspective and luck. -
10-10-2013, 02:17 AMTrystWildkeyTechnically, no, it's not more important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garan
BUT, if you're farming for an extended period of time, really, how much of an inconvenience is it for you to give up one spawn round to someone who just needs to tag a few for their hunting log.
It's not about importance, or me-first or even 'that's how the game works.' It's about the fact that it would likely NOT affect the person farming if they allowed this poor guy to just tag a few for the hunting log. -
10-10-2013, 02:20 AMGaran
If you're going to quote me don't forget
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Originally Posted by Garan
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10-10-2013, 02:36 AMGaran
I realize my post made me look kind of like a jerk. No i don't condone stealing mobs just out of spite. If you get a claim it's yours. What I'm saying is your agenda with the mob is not more important than mine. In the case of my apkallu farming, once I got civil conversation out of the levelers it ended up they just wanted a few mobs, not for me to leave or stop farming. I am perfectly happy to do this.
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10-10-2013, 02:41 AMLstkaws
Griefing has become a major issue. 1.0 never had this much, nor have many of the other MMOs' I have tried. Last night went into Garuda and paladin shows up and starts spamming LB1 every time it's up. We asked if he was trolling and he just laughed. No one wanted the 15 minute lockout, but after a few minutes someone just decided to go to bed and drop. Why would someone act like this? Who knows, I assume there are a lot of children playing the game, but it could just be a tragic commentary on our times.
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10-10-2013, 02:46 AMHiirNoivl
Aaaah... once upon a time in FFXIV 1.0, there was a place called Natalan. It was the best place to level to 50 and after 50 it was the best place to spiritbond for materia.
Everyone wanted this small piece of Eorzea. Battles were fought, feelings were hurt, tears were shed. Terrible things were done, terrible things were said.
In the end... we all got over it.
Now we are in 2.0 where people fight for half a second over some Banemites or Fleece camps and come to the forums to complain about it. How things change.... -
10-10-2013, 02:53 AMAmyasSeveral parties competing in 1.0 for xp camps is a bit different than purposely resetting mob's aggro so others can't out claim you :TQuote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
Nice false equivalence though.
I don't have a problem with farmers, or being 'outfarmed'. But like I said above ^ doing that is just plain crappy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garan
Maybe now he knows he can and will be out pulled if he chooses to be a d***wraith from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ValVae
Seemed like a good idea at the time.
? never noticed that in 1.0. Even xp camps seemed to be easy to get without having to compete, if there was a group at the entrance, move farther in, group in middle, move to wolf camp, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
Perhaps by your twisted sense of morality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi
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10-10-2013, 02:57 AMHiirNoivl
.... It's exactly the same....
In 1.0 you couldn't get any credit unless you claimed the mobs. That's why it's called a claim war. The same thing happened with people trying to get the Imperial hats to drop.
Kite the mob ---> Reset Claim. -
10-10-2013, 03:02 AMAltheras
Whenever I go farming for my weaving I keep an eye out for level appropriate characters in the area who seem to be trying to tag my farming mobs. I stop pulling and send them a tell to see if they need em for, quest/hunting log, or whatever. Usually it turns into a pleasant conversation, I let them tag what they need, help them kill it, and they finish up and I go back to farming. Everyone's happy. ^^ I even talk to other farmers and negotiate things, sometimes ending up teaming up with someone, or sometimes I'll just give them the camp if they've only got 1 hour before bed or something. I can always go craft with what I've gotten so far and come back later on.
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10-10-2013, 03:02 AMValVae
Someone is a douche to you so you return the favor? Way to be the better person :P
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10-10-2013, 03:14 AMRin_KuroiAnd it no more justifies greifing. You're just as bad as the person you're complaining about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
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10-10-2013, 03:20 AMKal-El
Why not just say "Feel free to claim the mob but can I kill it to fill hunters log?"
Boom. He gets drops. You get hunters log. -
10-10-2013, 03:21 AMAmyasI tried .-.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal-El
Reading is hard, I guess? The guy had the entire zone of them like clockwork, I don't know of any other banemites, do you? In Aurum Vale maybe...Quote:
Originally Posted by DSN
lol yeah I got it from Dark Souls. Should probably be used to it, but in DS the whole point of the pvp part of the game was griefing xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Moirear
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10-10-2013, 03:26 AMMoirearDo you play Dark Souls or did you come up with that on your own?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amyas
If you're coming from there, you should be absolutely jaded towards griefing. Take a backstab like a brave knight and go down to join the rest of the wormfood while he saps out your humanity.
If not, eh, *cough*....carry on.
*awkward pause*
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10-10-2013, 03:30 AMDSN
psst they spawn in more than one spot .... but I guess having the brain power to say spot A is crowded ill move to spot B or even C is difficult so instead I'll just post on the forums complain the world isn't fair and when I need something everyone should stop what they are doing for me.