Since there aren't any class forums, I'll start this here.
I'd like to keep the suggestions to mechanics/gameplay as much as possible. If we start talking about the appearance of summons and things of that nature, the conversations become too subjective to be meaningful. I'm not opposed to discussions about such things, but I'd prefer to keep this thread about quality of life/mechanics issues.
Next, I'm not an expert summoner. I've not made it to endgame content, so all of my suggestions are based on my experience through level 32. Therefore, I'm counting on the input of those who've reached endgame to comment about issues specific to those scenarios.
SMN wish list!
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10-09-2013, 01:01 AMAleph_OneSMN wish list!
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10-09-2013, 01:02 AMAleph_One
Pet Control:
- Allow us to control pets at all times. If we're master summoners, our pets should obey our every command the moment we give them!
- Please allow us to designate which abilities are used automatically and which aren't.
:o This actually concludes my list for the moment. I need to go to class, so I'll be back later to add more. To those in the community who've experienced more of the game, please share any mechanics/gameplay issues you've encountered so far. -
10-09-2013, 01:04 AMFuz
- Summons
That's all. -
10-09-2013, 01:28 AMSpytheDon't think this will happen since it would take SMNs over the top in PvP and they are already insane in PvE. Its annoying for a bit but once you get use to it, its not bad at all. The ability to toggle on which spell your pet auto cast would be amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleph_One
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10-09-2013, 01:34 AMWarlyx
Back to the drawing board , and release a SUMMON-ER.
FFXIV idea of "SMN" is my biggest dissapoint so far with the game. -
10-09-2013, 02:00 AMRyioGradion
Instead of complaining if you just accepted the way it is you'd enjoy the game more.
The Egis are not going away. Ever. EVER. SE would have to change the entire storyline if they did.
So instead of complaining, why not just try to like it? -
10-09-2013, 02:44 AMpandabearcat
Maybe they'll release an advanced class called "Summonest".
Alternatively,
"Summon 'er? I hardly had time to prepare the proper aetheric markings and begin the ritual to open a gate between realms!"
or,
"Summon 'er? Let me swiftcast first."
My biggest complaint about summoner is that y'all have made very few jokes on the name, or the fact that we're always horny :< -
10-09-2013, 02:47 AMSpytheCause people like to cry and moan about stuff, I actually think SE did a good job with the SMN class. The story was cool and the game play is nice and interesting. I think people are caught up on the entire lore of the series instead of the current gameplay and classes that are in the game. These 8 jobs are pretty much the core jobs of the game, 2 tanks, 2 healers, 2 magic caster, 1 ranged melee, 2 melee. As you can see they need 1 more ranged that uses DEX to even out the game then they can focus on other stuff. I'm guessing the first new class/job would be a Corsair or some kind of gunner. That way they can make BRDs more BRD like for people that want that and a pure ranged melee DPS class for people that want that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyioGradion
Guessing they will save a pure SMN class that sticks more to the series for the expo or later on and will bring a few more support classes. Not sure how having your pet do 90% of your damage would be fun to people. -
10-09-2013, 07:41 AMAleph_OneI'm not sure to whom you're directing your post since you didn't quote anything. If it was at me, I don't know how anything I said could lead you to believe I want the Egis to go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyioGradion
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10-09-2013, 07:45 AMAleph_OneI'm not saying I completely disagree with you, but I don't feel like it would have a drastic effect on our damage output. It seems more like a quality-of-life issue than anything else, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spythe
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10-09-2013, 10:05 AMSpytheI guess we can just agree to disagree, I think that is just core mechanics of how the game is designed. Adding that to SMN would make them really over the top in PvP since it will be the only class to do more actions per minute than any other class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleph_One
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10-09-2013, 10:09 AMInfighter
- Make Ifrit (and I think Titan, too) actually scale with Intellect. I expect my melee pet with an higher potency attack to do more damage than my ranged one when instead not even by adding basic attack plus ability it does more.
- Reduce DoT damage on pets by 90% like AoE abilities and/or make Sustain have a chance on tick to remove debuffs.
- Remove Radiant Shield on Ifrit because who the heck thought that giving a tank ability to a melee pet who can't keep hate at all was a good idea? Give it something that equals (or better, surpass) Contagion because right now there is absolutely no way even with a scaling fix that Ifrit will be equal to her.
- King Mog-egi after we defeat it because I want a bloody moogle running behind me all the time, alright?
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10-09-2013, 10:28 AMsamstThey should just make the "Steady" command activate automatically while mounted. Or have it disappear like they do with minions and have it automatically spawn again when dismountingQuote:
Originally Posted by Aleph_One
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10-09-2013, 11:31 AMDyvid
The change I would like to see are as follows:
1) Pet control is bad. More so with SCH but it needs work. I would like to select the abilities I want them to auto use.
2) Egi abilities are less party based and more solo based. SMN is a job, which very nature is for use in groups.
-Ifrit ability changes:
---Crimson Cyclone: remove stun add increase damage dealt by party by 10%. 60s cooldown
---Burning Strike: remain the same
---Radiant Shield: Change to Crimson Howl which adds Enfire to the party.
---Flaming Crush: add AoE burn DoT: potency 5 for 10secs
-Titan ability changes:
---Rock Buster: add slow effect
---Mountain Buster: add AoE bind effect
---Earthen Ward: Adds defensive buff to the party.
---Landslide: remove stun add range attack
-Garuda ability changes:
---Wind Blade: remain the same
---Shockwave: add Aero DoT effect (10 potency for 5s)
---Aerial Slash: add AoE blind effect
---Contagion: remain the same
3) Change Tri-Disaster to level 35 and add instant cast with 20 potency for 20s -mainly to help with adds. -
10-09-2013, 12:46 PMSpytheI agree with that but I think Ifrit may actually be better than Garuda in terms of DPS. Since he has a melee atk + a basic spammable attack its twice as likely for him to get a crit which buffs your spell speed. Ifirit does less damage than Garuda but not by much they need to buff his damage or make "Enhanced Pet Actions" A LOT better. Only a 20% chance seems like a cruel joke, at least make it 50% then maybe Ifrit could stand a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infighter
Just tested both Ifirit and Garuda their basic attack/auto attack is the same dmg output BUT Garuda AoE special does 60 to 70 more damage than Ifrit even though it does lower potency. The one downside is it has a cast time while Ifirit doesn't but the recast time starts as soon as she starts casting so even with a cast time its still a lot better than Ifrit. I also noticed a miss on Ifrit AoE move while never noticed it on Garuda fighting the same mob which was lv 44. Ifrit needs some serious love.