If you want me to play this game, I want to be able to enjoy engame content, I want to be able to get items. If this is how you perceive to make this accessible to people, you're wrong.
I don't want to have to leave my friends, ( or drag them along ) to one of the many sub-par or generally intolerant FC's that exist on my server. We bought the game together to have fun. This is not helping.
You put these questlines in that require a pug, that have increasingly lower popularity as time goes on. What happens as people all start getting these items ? Fewer people run them ( dont start the other class/job babble ).
Yet you have every other instance or hard-mode available on Duty Finder.
While I have enjoyed your game thus far is this is the direction youre taking with endgame content then my friends and I will be concluding our time when our trial periods end ( which is not far off ). I have and will not be purchasing further renewals if this is how the game is to stay.
Chimera/Hydra and future Non-Duty Finder items.
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10-08-2013, 04:18 PMAvenalChimera/Hydra and future Non-Duty Finder items.
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10-08-2013, 04:19 PMAvenal
Overall everything in the game has been excellent, but to be walled out of content like this.... well... I have something I'd like to say about that but its not entirely appropriate.
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10-08-2013, 04:21 PMAvenal
No skill cap is required in joining a FC just to get carried to the item.
If you want to make the item difficult to get make the encounter itself difficult , not the ability to take it on.
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10-08-2013, 04:26 PMAstrix
Where does it say it "Requires" a pug?
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10-08-2013, 04:29 PMAvenal
Required a pug or you be in a FC, all of which seem to be trash on my server.
So next you'll recommend I either comply and join a large FC (no) or transfer (give them money to progress , also no).
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10-08-2013, 04:33 PMTrystan
Or you just join a small FC with some friends. Small FCs usually find allies / other small FCs to do bigger content together but otherwise stay in their smaller group. For communication you get an extra chat channel: Linkshells.
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10-08-2013, 04:34 PMblowfin
Most people get around this by showing initiative and shouting to fill their group out, or finding a few more members for their FC. If your version of initiative is quitting, then so be it. But how are you going to feel knowing that you didn't really give it your best shot?
Also, the fact that you're bad mouthing other FC's is a pretty sure sign that you're the one who's heading down the path of intolerance. Try to find a decent FC and you might be surprised, it's not like it costs you anything, and you stand to gain a good group of people to play with. Don't like the FC? Leave. It's that simple. -
10-08-2013, 04:36 PMJudge_Hellboy
If you edit your post you can bypass the character limit.
Also while I agree it can take sometime to put together a party for such things I am glad they are there. They feel like much more personal tasks when done with those on your same server.
Also, there soon will be a party finder tool that should greatly enhance our ability to find people on our server to do like-minded content. Something that should have been around to begin with but for now I find there is ample people who either want to run it or want to help.
As side tips you don't need a 'perfect' party setup for Chimera/Hydra. All you really need is a few able bodies. One tank, one healer and some DDs. The more you have of the first two the greater and easier your chance of success. Did Chimera with only one tank, 3 healers, and rest BLMs. Hydra was easy with 2 PLDs, 1 WAR, a WHM, and some DDs. -
10-08-2013, 04:36 PMAstrixI'm confused! Since you said you had friends! <_>Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenal
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10-08-2013, 04:38 PMAvenal
Sigh... and ouch?
I have 4 RL friends I play with , all not on the same level of play as me. Not on as often as me. They look to me for advice and help when playing (when they're even online).
I don't feel I should be forced to leave them is all. -
10-08-2013, 04:41 PMblowfinQuote:
Originally Posted by Avenal
Why would you be forced to leave them? Any decent FC will be fine with having some players who are still leveling up. If they aren't then just keep looking... -
10-08-2013, 05:03 PMTrystanQuote:
Originally Posted by Avenal
You are not.
Get on the Internet, Forums, Google... find other small FCs and communicate with them... a lot of smaller FCs dont have enough people for bigger content so a lot of them are looking for other people to play with. You dont have to leave your FC and join another... there are other means of communication (Forums, TS, Linkshells...).... you only have to do something to search for others... you wont get everything handed on a silver platter. -
10-08-2013, 05:15 PMSlatervonjagerSince when is it wrong for one to defend a product that they like? Who died and made the boss of other people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenal
Also, NO ONE was defending anything before you made that remark, the only post before you're bad remark, was someone asking a question, that was all. Jesu Christo dude, lighten up. You don't want to play anymore because of petty things, so be it. leave already and make room for other people. -
10-08-2013, 05:17 PMAvenal
We have diverging opinions of petty.
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10-08-2013, 05:32 PMKule
To be fair, the relic quest line is end game and meant to be hard.. I don't quite see why you're stressing now while your friends are not even at that point.
I think you just need to chill and join a social/casual end game LS where i'm sure people will be glad to help you with content. -
10-08-2013, 05:58 PMmindful
I feel , That at the point the OP is talking about it is the relic quest and those type of quests should be a server teamwork and find friends or like minded people to help. It is a mmo so by the time you have gotten there you should have ran into some cool people. That you get along with. Also you can have 8 linkshells equip and a FC . So I would not see that being a problem. Unless anti social. Then maybe a mmo not the cup of tea looking for.
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10-08-2013, 06:03 PMSove92
At least on Shiva, there is a linkshell that helps people getting their relic, they ask people for Chimera and Hydra a lot. There is usually someone on Mor Dhona who is a member of it.
They won't carry you, though, you need to be useful. -
10-08-2013, 07:18 PMJahaudant
FFXIV community pre-duty finder: "Don't add Dungeon Finder it will ruin the game, we hate WOW clones, I will quit if you add Dungeon Finder TOXIC ELITIST HARASSMENT ANONYMITY"
FFXIV community post-duty finder: "Add more damn dungeons to Duty Finder ffs, shouting blows" -
10-08-2013, 07:29 PMMillernaAdd to that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jahaudant
Mandatory group content in an MMO: OMG you mean I have to talk to people? Just because I play an MMO doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to solo everything and get all gear!
Lots of solo content in an MMO: OMG, too much solo'ing, community will suck because no interaction between players is required!
Gotta suck developing an MMO these days ;) -
10-08-2013, 07:43 PMEngineer
Coil needs to be in DFas well
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10-08-2013, 08:38 PMSteeled
One of the things I liked about XIV 1.0 and XI, above all things, was that you could have multiple linkshells. Many of us in XI had different linkshells for different purposes.
I don't understand the dualist purpose of linkshells and FCs. For instance, having a crafting linkshell where you share excess crafting mats, even if it's just junk, and having a fun linkshell with buddies and having an eg shell.
You can still have those but they're automatically inferior to FCs. I dislike that.