Geared enough to tank CM?

Hi -

Im a fresh 50 and im at the quest to do CM, so i got into a group via duty finder and the group refused to go with me as a tank because i am undergeared....i suppose i can understand that, BUT isnt CM the place you farm as a fresh 50 to get tomes and get DL gear?
Im confused about that...This is my current set up http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3916071/

Would i be a crutch to a CM group with my current gear? and am i destined to only run WP until i get tomes to at least upgrade a few pieces?

They were talking about your accessories. If you update them to the level 49 accessories (HQ even better) then you'll be golden until darklight

imo CM supposed to be finished with AF gear because its a storyline dungeon, its just the majority of ppl doing af only want to farm it fast and easy

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Try to get the lvl 48/49 Amber set. If you can get the HQ for cheap, then go for it, it lasted me quite a while since I have terrible luck with drops. The rest of your gear is pretty much what I finished my first CM with. My sword was worse, actually.

Just don't try to overdo it and you will be fine.

If you just hit 50, you need to replace all your accessories with lvl 49 gear at least, if not you're doing yourself a disservice.

First thing I told my FC mates when they hit 50 was to replace the crap lvl 30-40 rings/necklace/earring/bracelet they were using since for the most part you'll be doing CM/Prae/WP in your AF.

I figured my accessories were where i was lacking. Thanks for corroborating that.

Will work on replacing them. Are there any that drop in WP?

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Originally Posted by Riccie

I figured my accessories were where i was lacking. Thanks for corroborating that.

Will work on replacing them. Are there any that drop in WP?

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I don't think so. I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly WP bosses drop ilvl55 armor pieces (other than accesories), the exception being the Tonberry King himself that drops ilvl55 weapons, and coffers in there drop allagan pieces, relic precursor pieces, random mats and a pet.

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Originally Posted by Riccie

I figured my accessories were where i was lacking. Thanks for corroborating that.

Will work on replacing them. Are there any that drop in WP?

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amber is enough
WP only drop weapon and armor not better than AK

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Originally Posted by Riccie

I figured my accessories were where i was lacking. Thanks for corroborating that.

Will work on replacing them. Are there any that drop in WP?

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Wanderers Palace drops iLevel 55 gear, so you can start replacing your AF with that. Although it is not neccesary for finishing CM nor Prae. As others have said before, improve your jewelry. Personally I had 2 HQ Amber Rings with +6 melded strength (one STR materia III one STR Materia II) Similar for neck and wrist. You can get Tier III materia quite cheap, and the HQ Amber rings are not that expensive either.

Gear Progression is as follow:

AF -> Wanderers Palace (ilvl55) -> Andapoor Keep (ilvl60) -> Darklight (ilvl70) -> Allagan/AF2 (ilvl90)

Before heading to Andapoor Keep I would also recommend farming Ifrit or Garuda Sword, both fights are doable in AF Wanderers Gear.

CM is easy as pie.
You can go in there with a level 39 accessory and still clear it.
Really, its not a dfficult instance at all.

You could tank CM with that quite easily. Just get HQ Amber accessories.

Remember when you do CM runs you can convert those accessories to materia for your relic or sell them at a profit. I always replace my jewellery for materia.

You should have some decent accessories, but you do not require them. I solo tanked CM and Prae with garbage accessories as a WAR in full AF. I didn't even touch Wanderer's Palace until afterwards. Better accessories make it a little easier, but not required.

Your gear is fine and should have no problems tanking it. Next time tell the whiners to leave and get replacements. Those that want to be PICKY spam at Trolls for now days FULL DL + Relic ONLY... they make me laugh.

let me tell you something, If you have full AF armor your just golden. There is nothing in CM NOR preatoruim that will end you if you have crap accessories. I've never seen it, never gunna see it. If anything will kill you in CM or preatoruim it will be bad playing by speed runners trying to do a gimmick to speed run faster.

Oh and further more... LET the fools cry and leave... EVEN if the whole entire party leaves, just stay, you WILL find a replacement party in no time flat because people LOVE doing CM unfinished runs because they possibly might cut the time to get to the final boss in the arena by a substantional amount.

Tanking CM really doesn't require much gear at all. Starter 50 gear is fine for it. Just remember to rotate your cooldowns and make liberal use of your stun.

You'll have more trouble holding threat off your group members than you will with the amount of damage you're taking, and for that reason I suggest getting whomever you're paired with to take OT duty unless they're similarly inexperienced. Getting threat on half a dozen adds that are being AoE'ed down by the group is much harder than getting single target threat on a boss.

The only way damage gets out of hand is if you're playing sloppy and taking hits you don't want to take.

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Originally Posted by Wyndam

Getting threat on half a dozen adds that are being AoE'ed down by the group is much harder than getting single target threat on a boss.

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This is especially true if your DPS/Heals like running around with ADDs on their face before you've grouped them all together. Cid always seems to be in less danger than the rest of my party in that case...

you will be fine w/ AF1 set and 25 ish accessory, that i had on when i first do CM anyway. there nothing in CM that will hit you hard enough for you to get 49 ring/necklace/etc... anyway. no point in spend money on that. for tanking AK, just have some darklight piece (belt and glove) and WP weapon, GC, or iffit weapon then you will be good to go. oh and if you have problem holding aggro check the DPS weapon first. if they using relic weapon and not holding back then it will be really hard for you to hold aggro.

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Originally Posted by Riccie

I figured my accessories were where i was lacking. Thanks for corroborating that.

Will work on replacing them. Are there any that drop in WP?

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Also, go ahead and get your relic weapon base. You won't get the quest until you finish the story, but you can use it until then. It's probably better than what you have now. You may also be lucky and get a darklight weapon from WP, or clear AK once and get your GC weapon.

I ran CM with fresh lvl 50 gear and lvl 49 accessories. It's not hard, usually you'll have someone with better gear so they'll end up leading and MTing. As an off tank you'll end up just flashing the shit outta adds and stacking in the middle while everyone aoe's them down.

So just stack vit with regular quality. Also you might want to look at the prices of accessories and shields so you can convert them to materia when you're done. That helps cover the repairs you'll suffer from. I basically buy multiple earrings, rings, bracelets and shields so I can convert and sell. So far after getting like 2500 tomes I've managed to make some money while just doing CM straight.

You can also try to run Ifrit HM with the same stuff you run for CM to get yourself an ifrits blade. That does make a difference when spamming flash the entire time.

Yup, your gear and acc are good enough for CM.
Did it as a WAR with slightly worse gear than that and it was fine. if you have AF, what gets you killed are speed runners not making any effort to adjust and then blaming you... (ie. DPS going all out with high level weapons and healers spamming Holy instead of healing you...)

Your gear is perfectly fine for tanking CM. It is roughly what I was wearing when I started running it. And you are right, the questline blues are what are intended to be brought into CM, as CM is a gearing dungeon for your next set up. I have a couple of DL pieces now and am close to getting my first double piece (either chest/helm or legs/feet). My accessories and weapon are similarly weak, but I'm working on them as well.

Oddly enough, being main tank in CM is much easier than being off tank. I find it odd that the strongest tanks in CM often seem to insist that they main tank, possibly out of misplaced bravado, even when it is not the best solution for the group. The oddest situation is the first half of the 2-part final boss fight, where the best solution is to have a healer tank, since the boss does virtually zero damage and have the two tanks on each side picking up the adds. In 3 of my CM runs today the top dog tank insisted on 'tanking' the boss, and then proceeded to sit down on the ground in front of her doing nothing.

Personally, I love it when I find myself paired up with a fresh 50 tank new to CM. I like taking the time to show the newbie the ropes, to pass along what several very experienced CM tanks did to help me when I was first in there.

Upgraded accessories to amber ones, so will try my luck again this weekend...wish me luck! lol

If I'm doing farming runs I usually drop all my gear and go with lvl 49 crafted whites to spiritbond. CM is incredibly easy and boring. You don't need any set gear for it and it can be done in AF and 49 whites no problem

Honestly I didn't think CM was supposed to be any sort of gear check, I was still in HQ heliodor accessories/AF armor and didn't have any issues. If you're going in a group that wants to speed run farm it, maybe look at upgrading a few pieces, but honestly nothing in there hits hard enough that you should have to worry about being tricked out in DL or anything.