Please make massive fates instanced!!

As we all know massive fates such as Odin and behemoth just don't work correctly. Either they are invisible to all but a few and lead to AOE spamming. Or the AOE spamming coupled with massive amount of people crash the entire sever or produce major lag issues.

I have one simple request. Please make massive fates instanced because the current system is rather pointless. I know this would mean dialing down on the toughness of the bosses but im all for this if we can at-least enjoy the fight(party based roles vs random spamming). Because I don't think anyone is enjoying these fates now.

Now a good way to have this work is to have instance fates appear on the duty finder or a quest randomly appears when the time limit is available. Now I know this is not the best solution but something along these lines.That everyone has the ability to enjoy and at least be apart of. Fates are a wonderful system but the way there currently been used is not in any way productive or effective.

Feel free to add your own ways that may make the system work. Im not saying they have to be instanced but something that everyone can enjoy and be a part of.

I think all that's really needed is a way to prioritize monsters/party to display first and non party members based on distance second.

This way behemoth and Odin won't be invisible.

Tho instancing these contents sound good on paper, it won't work.

"Yay odin popped!"

... 45min later

"Reserving Instance"

This would still lead to people not being able to play it. Ever try to run AK with a pre-made group and still have to wait 20 minutes because the instance servers are full?

They need to increase the instance servers anyway, but atm doing this would just cause a whole other problem.

Yeah i kinda felt that it was a catch 22. But something has to be done.

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Originally Posted by BoomerOU

"Yay odin popped!"

... 45min later

"Reserving Instance"

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Yeah i can see this lol but at the same time now its more like. YAY odin pop...crap i cant even see him or target him...whats the point of this again?

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

This would still lead to people not being able to play it. Ever try to run AK with a pre-made group and still have to wait 20 minutes because the instance servers are full?

They need to increase the instance servers anyway, but atm doing this would just cause a whole other problem.

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Yes they do cause they are in bad shape as well. Thats why i said something along these line something that make it playable for all.

I wish they would remove FATE altogether to be honest. Instanced versions of Behemoth/Odin would have bee significantly funner to do.

People asked -
"Can we please have big open world bosses so we can team up and take them down together?"
Odin and Behemoth fates were born.

People now ask -
"Odin and Behemoth fates are a waste of time and pointless. Make them instanced!"

Not that I disagree at all, they definitely should be instanced.
However it is rather amusing that people asked, they got, then they hated.

I can understand what SE was trying to do with them, but to be honest the execution didn't really work out. Something more like the Guild Wars 2 world bosses would be ideal (such as Jormag, The Shatterer etc.. If you don't know them, YouTube them), and Behemoth increasing in size by about 10. Odin however should definitely be instanced.

If you did play GW2, you would agree with me when I say that the FATE or "events" were much better designed. The mechanics were better, the functionality was miles and miles ahead, and quite simply the ability to actually see the mob from a very large distance was another thing.

I don't like the idea of making it an instance. I like seeing my fellow end game runners that may not be in my FC. Its like having the best of the server all over for a large party. What needs to be fixed is the priority of what is shown. Who cares if you can't see all the people fighting as long as you see Odin. Also I've seen people in their 30s trying to fight Odin. More than likely everything you do is gonna miss him. So leave the area and stop the AoEs! I also suggest lowering your graphic settings in game. Also set effect filters. I have mine set to Others:None PT: Either Limited or none(forgot) and mine:all. I have a brand new computer so my settings are probably set a lot higher than needed. Last Odin battle only lost sight of him once for 2-3 secs.

If you did play GW2, you would agree with me when I say that the FATE or "events" were much better designed. The mechanics were better, the functionality was miles and miles ahead, and quite simply the ability to actually see the mob from a very large distance was another thing.[/QUOTE]

YES i played gw2 and I agree. They were much more polished. I never had a problem seeing mobs or really lag for that matter and i still play gw2 currently.

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Originally Posted by Woggers

I don't like the idea of making it an instance. I like seeing my fellow end game runners that may not be in my FC.

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Yeah i enjoy more people from around the world i meant kinda a world specific duty finder event. So about 35-40 people fighting odin at once instead of the entire world but then again I think there would be problems with this setup. I think the fate system needs massive reworking along with the instance system.

They need to just implement culling where non-party pcs aren't a priority on the draw stack over fate targets.

Eorzea has such little open world for a 50 to look forward to, instancing what little it has is the wrong direction, imo.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

I wish they would remove FATE altogether to be honest. Instanced versions of Behemoth/Odin would have bee significantly funner to do.

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I think so also the zerg fest is not fun. As someone pointed out fates arent the problem so to speak but fates in ffxiv are poorly designed in comparison to gw2 and other games.

just be patient people, they will come up with something.

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Originally Posted by BoomerOU

They need to just implement culling where non-party pcs aren't a priority on the draw stack over fate targets.

Eorzea has such little open world for a 50 to look forward to, instancing what little it has is the wrong direction, imo.

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You may be correct and I think this stems from the removal of Notorious Monsters. I know people hate the idea sometimes but the lack of them has lead to very little need to explore the open world. An allowed dev's to kind of sherk on this part of the game. Its a beautiful world but there is largely nothing to do in it.

Dont instance the massive fates. Having such fates adds to the fun of this installemen of ff. just address the issues surrounding a massive fate. This post is like a ride failing at disney world and instead of fixing the problem some would rather turn the place into chucky cheese because its safer and easier

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

just be patient people, they will come up with something.

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I wonder there are inherent problems in the design of alot of ffxiv selling points. Not that I dont like the game 1 class from all 50's, relics and af2 pluss all i70 hq sets. So I play alot my point is im more on the hardcore end. I see these problems and like you say sure they will come up with something, but others are more inclined to pass the game up entirely.

I don't like or support this idea at all.

I'd suggest maybe instead of instanced they make these 2 big guys like Wintergrasp (PVP area) in WOW and they at the very least be in their own zones so things can be controlled with lag and priorities. The fact that odin brings down the server is a big issue in itself. Love the fact these are open world hate the fact I can't participate because I can't see the monster.

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Originally Posted by MajorAppleSauce

Dont instance the massive fates. Having such fates adds to the fun of this installemen of ff. just address the issues surrounding a massive fate. This post is like a ride failing at disney world and instead of fixing the problem some would rather turn the place into chucky cheese because its safer and easier

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Sorry but that not a very good comparison. While I agree having such fates do add fun, the design of the fate system in flawed. Not to mention that two fates are litterly the only reason people go anywhere in the open world other than to mine/bot, which sucks. But I will agree they could be fixed, I just dont think this can happen without a major overhaul of the current system.

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Originally Posted by WHS

I'd suggest maybe instead of instanced they make these 2 big guys like Wintergrasp (PVP area) in WOW and they at the very least be in their own zones so things can be controlled with lag and priorities. The fact that odin brings down the server is a big issue in itself. Love the fact these are open world hate the fact I can't participate because I can't see the monster.

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This is actually not a bad idea!

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

I don't like or support this idea at all.

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Its not a stagnant idea. Please elaborate on ways to fix the current system.