MNK in Titan HM. Tips?

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10-07-2013, 05:47 PM
Guevara

MNK in Titan HM. Tips?

Hi there fellow monks of Eorzea, I am starting to learn the Titan HM fight a little, in DF, since I don't feel experienced enough to join PUGs yet.

I was wondering if there's any more experienced monk out there to suggest some good rotations to use (i watched a video on youtube suggesting to use only side abilities) and techniques/positions to better evade Titan attacks; consider I have quite an issue with latency.

Thank you in advance.
10-07-2013, 06:57 PM
dragonflie

I pretty much only used Flank rotation, with some dots thrown in. Back side is a bit risky, since lots of healers stand at the back and get targeted by landslide often.
At heart phase, you might want to move to the back though, I found that it was easier to land attacks on the heart from there then flank.
During the AOE attack, pop Mantra so that everyone is healed up faster, and switch to Fist of Earth, since the Tumult hit harder and harder, and avoid using Blood for Blood if you have it, since you might get killed by the Tumults.

This reddit thread might have info for you, so do check it out.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...howcase_guide/
10-07-2013, 07:11 PM
Guevara

Thank you.

From the video I notice that he avoids plumes by going under Titan. Is this always recommended?
10-07-2013, 07:13 PM
dragonflie

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Originally Posted by Guevara

Thank you.

From the video I notice that he avoids plumes by going under Titan. Is this always recommended?

Only if you know that he isn't going to mountain buster right after, pretty safe to go under otherwise. I know someone on the forum has a pic of the Titan rotation...
10-07-2013, 07:17 PM
Guevara

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Originally Posted by dragonflie

Only if you know that he isn't going to mountain buster right after, pretty safe to go under otherwise. I know someone on the forum has a pic of the Titan rotation...

yeah I got the image. It should be safe then, since the MB is never after Plumes in P5. In fact he goes:
MB > Stomp > Plumes > Bombs > Landslide > MB > Plumes > Rock > Landslide > REPEAT

...maybe just be careful if you're targeted with Rock ability and quickly move away from him, on second Plumes of his rotation.
10-07-2013, 11:42 PM
Lemon8or

Also put Fist of Earth on when he uses Tumult or Geocrush to reduce damage. Fist of Fire the rest of the time. I haven't had trouble running out of his AOE but if you have latency issue, Fist of Wind might be beneficial during Weight of the Land. I'm not that experienced with Titan since I only felt confident enough to face him last weekend but killed him twice, one for my relic, another for 2 guys in my FC.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

Weight of land has a few different variations. 3 of 4 of them can be avoided by being in flank range. You basically cut through titan onto the other side if your side gets hit with it.

The last variation doesn't appear till last phase, i believe, and can be avoid at max flank range if you choose to stay in flank. Though your healers will have to be on the ball, or you move in after stomps for aoe heal.

Hmm I would have to watch the video of my run last night when I get home then. I do notice that healer and ranged DPS tend to get into more weight of the land than I did.
10-07-2013, 11:46 PM
kukurumei

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Also put Fist of Earth on when he uses Tumult or Geocrush to reduce damage. Fist of Fire the rest of the time. I haven't had trouble running out of his AOE but if you have latency issue, Fist of Wind might be beneficial during Weight of the Land. I'm not that experienced with Titan since I only felt confident enough to face him last weekend but killed him twice, one for my relic, another for 2 guys in my FC.

Weight of land has a few different variations. 3 of 4 of them can be avoided by being in flank range. You basically cut through titan onto the other side if your side gets hit with it.

The last variation doesn't appear till last phase, i believe, and can be avoid at max flank range if you choose to stay in flank. Though your healers will have to be on the ball, or you move in after stomps for aoe heal.
10-08-2013, 01:53 AM
kukurumei

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Hmm I would have to watch the video of my run last night when I get home then. I do notice that healer and ranged DPS tend to get into more weight of the land than I did.

I don't believe there are that many weight of the land variations, but here's the main ones i remember

1: back row parallel
2: line middle left (cut right of titan)
3: line middle right (cut left of titan)
4: All middle (with a budge in the middle) you can choose to max flank and pull out, or pull out diagonal.

There's probably a few more for the range folks, but that's usually all melees have to worry about. Combating lag is no small feat in titan unfortunely, so it's not badto at least know where you pull out before hand.
10-08-2013, 05:47 AM
Viridiana

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

I don't believe there are that many weight of the land variations, but here's the main ones i remember

1: back row parallel
2: line middle left (cut right of titan)
3: line middle right (cut left of titan)
4: All middle (with a budge in the middle) you can choose to max flank and pull out, or pull out diagonal.

Weight of the Land is the one that spawns under the players' feet. I'm really not sure what you're talking about, but I suspect you're thinking of bombs. . .
10-08-2013, 06:00 AM
PessimiStick

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Originally Posted by dragonflie

Only if you know that he isn't going to mountain buster right after, pretty safe to go under otherwise. I know someone on the forum has a pic of the Titan rotation...

Mountain Buster never follows Weight of the Land. It's always after a Landslide.
10-08-2013, 06:27 AM
kukurumei

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Weight of the Land is the one that spawns under the players' feet. I'm really not sure what you're talking about, but I suspect you're thinking of bombs. . .

I used to suspect that as well, but there are times it's just not on my feet and i can continue DPSing, and sometimes weight is on an area no one is standing.
10-08-2013, 06:50 AM
pandabearcat

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

I used to suspect that as well, but there are times it's just not on my feet and i can continue DPSing, and sometimes weight is on an area no one is standing.

This is because the order of his cast is

1. He looks with his beady little eyes where everyone is standing.
2. He decides to destroy the puny mortals and begins casting weight.
3. The puddles finally appear.
4. Someone invariably "lags" and dies a horrible death.

The key here is that between 1, 2 and 3, people can move and titan will still puddle where they USED to be, when he decided his arbitrary cast.

So that the puddles always appear under someone, but if they move between the time titan takes a mental snapshot and the time the puddles appear, it will seem as if the puddles spawned not under someone.

You can use this to your advantage...for example, in my titans, I have memorized the puddle times (really not that hard actually), and call out to the raid. Then, people move before the puddles appear, and everyone has less to worry about.

And just FYI, the puddle appear is...

1. Before first jump, no puddles.
2. After first jump, puddle immediately, then puddles after every set of stomps.
3. Puddles after every landslide
4. (Heart Phase) puddles after every landslide.
5. Puddle after stomp, and after every other mountain buster, in a repeating pattern.
10-08-2013, 07:07 AM
Viridiana

Quote:

Originally Posted by kukurumei

I used to suspect that as well, but there are times it's just not on my feet and i can continue DPSing, and sometimes weight is on an area no one is standing.

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

The key here is that between 1, 2 and 3, people can move and titan will still puddle where they USED to be, when he decided his arbitrary cast.

This. After his first jump, I always run to the opposite side of the platform until I see Weights. It's frequently where I just ran from, because he cast it on where I was .3 seconds ago (or more)
10-08-2013, 07:23 AM
Honz

Like others have said staying flank and keeping up DoTs is solid dps for MNK, occasionally going rear for Boot and IDs is ok if your healers are accustomed to the fight.

Also its ideal to save Perfect Balance for the Titan Heart since you will probably lose GL3 during the jump, building GL3 quick during that phase helps loads.

Also as melee you can pretty much stay in melee range for Titan 100% of the time if you know his attack patterns well enough.