You can do it too. There's no reason for all of the complaints about how hard it supposedly is to get this stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1k8z7XLASk
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10-07-2013, 08:04 AMbusta120 diremite web in 10~ minutes. No camping!. No fighting RMT!
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10-07-2013, 02:32 PMKirosuu
the same thing i do everytime
i also teach other people about this......and they not very happy bec seem tedious while other very grateful -
10-07-2013, 11:01 PMKsenia
And if we could get fleece I'd be a happy clam.
Though deep down I know 3:1 and 5:1 shard ratio is still the bottleneck in the game when it takes just as long to gather them at 50 as it did at 5. -
10-08-2013, 02:04 AMSwag
Rewards are randomized. If you repeat leves while leveling, you'll often see rewards of 7 shards vs 56 shards from the same leve. Additionally, you'll often see materials or vintage precursors. This is a great way to get diremite webs if this particular leve is rewarding them for you, but it likely wouldn't be worth "farming" the leve to try to get diremite webs to come up as a reward and wasting your allowances unless you've already hit 50 with all your crafting classes (best way to spend your leves).
It's worth checking and worth doing if the web reward is available, but it's not a solution to the spawn limitations and bots. -
10-08-2013, 04:36 AMbusta
Just because it isn't available every time doesn't mean it isn't worth it. You get many leve allowances every day. Using a few of them to get the diremite web reward options is not a big deal. There are at least 6 different leves that reward web. If you do a leve or two, come back and check the rewards to see if they've changed. If you do more than one craft, alternate between craft leves for better efficiency.
When I can get many many stacks with extreme ease in a very short amount of time and then see people complaining on the forum about how hard it supposedly is to get these things, I can't help but sigh and facepalm. I made a video showing how absurdly easy it is. So, yes. It IS a solution. -
10-08-2013, 05:23 PMShinn91
if you have problems with bots. open a trade with em. they could attack anymore :D
they die, and you can farm :D atm they dont know how to respawn :>
/fuck the system of rtm -
10-10-2013, 04:39 PMPhonz
Its probably not worth it, you dont want to spend your leve allowances to get items to level up in the craft, because you are setting yourself up to not have leve allowances when you need them around level 45-50. + an above poster mentioned that you can't just keep doing the leve for shards until diremite webs pop up, as once again, you're wasting precious leve allowances. TIME is also a factor, if you're trying to powerlevel a craft and have to wait for the leve to have the reward you want, then you are losing TIME.
Personally, I save all leve allowances until my DoH crafts are all at 50. I was able to use 60 out of my 80 leve allowances to take CRP from 25-50 with only having to craft a few lumber out of logs per level.
Moral of the story, diremite webs aren't the issue, Fleece is the issue, as it is used by iLvl55+ items and all other crafts towards higher levels -
10-10-2013, 06:35 PMRoezYou're so very wrong about shard gathering. I am at somewhere around 900-1000 shards an hour, which you can't do at 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ksenia
(1) At 26 mining/botany you have access to the level 30 gathering nodes which yield 2x shards. It's one node out of the four for the level 30 nodes.
(2) At 20 mining/botany for 400 gp you get 2 extra shards (extended to crystals at 40 and clusters at 50) per swing. It takes about 3-4 minutes to gain 400 gp. Mining gets 3 of them, Botany the other three, 1 for each shard type, and they can be shared.
All farming areas have four nodes. Two of the four will always be spawned as you gather. This means once you are level 26 you can chose areas for the shards you want, where you can farm 3 of the 4 nodes. The idea is to farm the 2x shard node once out of every three nodes, instead of once out of every four. This way you are getting a 4th node free every 3 nodes you gather from. -
10-10-2013, 06:45 PMRoezSpent last Sunday with my SO farming diremite against two bots. A warp bot and a stand in place script bot. While we were able to claim a solid seven or eight spawns, it was stressful as hell. We used to have fun farming because we would just relax and chat with friends. Against bots though you have to take steps to get the first instant tag constantly. It's frustrating if you get any type of lag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinn91
People who white knight RMT and bots because 'they have no affect on the economy or anyone else' can shove off. -
10-10-2013, 07:34 PMAmnesiaBut keep in mind that the areas with the 2x shard nodes do not have a 5 gather attempt node nearby...Quote:
Originally Posted by Roez
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10-10-2013, 07:38 PMRoezYou're right. I got up early, not awake and edited that in as an after thought because it works for non-shard nodes. I'll take it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnesia
I do my shard farming on auto pilot at this point, and to keep me focused I set a timer and see how many shards I can do an hour. Some areas the nodes are a bit far apart which slows it down. -
10-10-2013, 07:41 PMRoth_Trailfinder
That lack is irrelevant.
5 gather node, 5 shards. Use the Ward, you get +2 shards per attempt, for 3 shards per attempt. 3 * 5 = 15 shards for that node.
4 gather node, 1 extra yield, get 8 shards. Use the Ward, get +2 shards per attempt, for 4 shards per attempt. 4 * 4 = 16.
You get more shards on the +1 Yield than you do on the +1 Attempt nodes. That is even true when you add in the +2 Shard Ward skills. -
10-10-2013, 07:55 PMRoezI don't follow what you just said. The wards give 2x shards per swing regardless. If you have 1 extra gather attempt, the 5 gather nodes, you get 2 more shards than if it's 4 gather attempt. It doesn't matter if the node gives 2x or 1x.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder
The nodes with an extra shard will always give you 2x shard. It doesn't matter what node you use wards on (since they are all 4 attempt). -
10-11-2013, 12:00 AMSimarilI had nearly 99 allowances, and made a point to use at least 6 everyday. After 8 days I NEVER was offered diremite as a reward. RNG rewards make it hard "to get this stuff," and THAT is "the reason to complain." I knew the locations of the lv 15, 20, and 25 leves that sometimes offer diremite, and did them all, as well as other leves. The 9th day, suddenly one of the triple leves offered it, repeatedly, and I got hundreds... but this was after a lot of frustration, and being stuck because of a "random" reward, or difficult to farm item.Quote:
Originally Posted by busta
I've also been leveling all the DoH, and this is a significant road block compared to everything else. I don't mind the DoH being different, but this is not fun or rewarding or challanging. It's just DUMB.
I wish I had the option to give you a thumbs down! -
10-11-2013, 12:19 AMRoth_TrailfinderNo, the Wards give PLUS TWO shards, regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roez
The default yield is 1 shard, right? 1 + 2 = 3 so when you use a Ward on a normal node, you get 3 shards per swing. If its 4 swings, you get 12 shards total, if its 5 swings you get 15 shards total.
The +1 Yield nodes, they give 2 of everything per swing. Add in a Ward, and that becomes 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 shards per swing. Since its going to be 4 swings, you get 16 shards on that particular node.
Node stuff is all additive, not multiplicative. +1 Yield, +1 Swing, +2 shards ... its not x2 or x3 or x anything. -
10-11-2013, 01:12 AMJess_SparkIf you already have all the leather, thread and bolts made this could be...I spent 3 hours last night making 100 thread (HQ) and 3 hours the night before making about 130 Hard leather (HQ) so tonight I just need to make a bit more thread and some bolts...Granted I am trying to raise my weaving to about 35 or so because I have 600 HQ flax I can use to get to 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by busta
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10-11-2013, 06:32 AMBagel_Bear
Diremite Web from Leves:
Unless you're within that range and those are the primary leves you're doing to level up it's a waste of a leve allowance.
Shard Issue:
This is the breakdown:
5x Node: 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5 shards
4x Node w/ bonus yield: 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 8 shards
5x Node w/ yield skill: 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 15 shards (10 bonus shards from skill)
4x Node w/ bonus yield and yield skill: 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16 (8 bonus shards from skill)
Yes, using the skill on a 5x node grants the most bonus shards but you're missing the fact that you need to regain GP and simple doing a three node circuit for the lvl. 30 nodes with the bonus yield would gain shards much quicker. You're not constantly getting those two extra shards from using the skill on the 5x node but you are constantly gathering from the bonus yield node. -
10-12-2013, 06:40 AMbustaI've heard this nonsense 100x with zero logical explanation. Unless I focus literally all of my game time on gathering and crafting, there's just not enough time for me to maximize the exp gain from all 6 leve allowances every day. If I tried, I'd get to max leve allowance and then literally waste them. Even *if* I had the time, I happen to think focusing some allowances on making money is more than worth simply pouring every allowance into exp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagel_Bear
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Originally Posted by Jess_Spark
You don't need everything to be HQ if you're wearing good gear. Just an HQ item or two per craft will be enough. If you're just aiming for the rewards, you don't need *anything* to be HQ and you can just buy the materials for dirt cheap from NPCs or players. Or make it yourself. -
10-12-2013, 08:19 AMBagel_BearIf you want to make 100% use of a leve then it is a waste of a leve. Whether you have the time to make the most use of the leve is a different story. In your case it doesn't look like you can. You can always bank them for later as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by busta
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10-12-2013, 10:27 PMFruityPebblesCompletely off topic ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ksenia
but I have been in love with Ksenia Solo forever.
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10-29-2013, 12:46 AMArakatosDidn't know you can do that? If I ever see a bot I'll trade and get them killed. Hate the RMTs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinn91
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10-29-2013, 01:18 AMYukioIf diremite is such an issue, do the level 20 triple turn-in all the way to 35 and then do the linen hat ones. You can skip diremite altogether. Solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simaril
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10-29-2013, 02:29 AMRav---Here is your logic. Once you get to 35 leves are worth (at least) 97,000 xp...each. In most crafts you can ride this 100k per leve to 50. In fact this is a very cost-effective, quick...though somewhat tedious (as all are courier) way to get right to 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by busta
Blacksmith - I believe it was a sledgehammer (lvl 40, Whitebrim)
Weaver - Linen Wedge Cap of Gathering - lvl 35 Observatory
Alchemy - Budding Oak Wand - lvl 35 Observatory
Its simple, diremites and gil cannot get me 100k xp instantly, a leve can. -
10-30-2013, 05:18 PMReviiLagoon
Here's how to get diremite webs: Do an activity that makes you more money, for example spirtbinding, buy diremite webs. Why spend the time farming something when your time could be better spent making more money elsewhere, and then just buying them.