Simply, the worst servers I ever seen, totally disappointed. Love the game but how the hell I can play it when I try attempt something and suddenly spike lags everywhere? It wasn't like this before. The 1.0 version I never had this problems. Then again, ARR started, neither in alpha/beta and ARR launch I had this problems. Until a month ago? Or perhaps some mainteneance ago. I play hour and hour crafting or doing other simple stuff, then evening I decide to do something with LS like titan and BAM, probably due to players logging or who the hell know what else, it start spike lag. I dont have anything on aside skype and opera (but even closing opera won't help). I have (from motherboard RoG DVD drive) installed cFosSpeed (while prioritize high the game), installed Leatrix under friend suggestion, fixed win7 problems (still under friend suggestion) and nothing. Also got spike lags with max and low graphic settings.
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10-07-2013, 06:54 AMBlack_PearlUnplayable Game
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10-07-2013, 06:55 AMBlack_Pearl
Also...
I have try ping on day while crafting and got this result:
| 192.34.76.2 - 1 | 813 | 812 | 126 | 145 | 307 | 128 |
| 199.91.189.234 - 0 | 817 | 817 | 127 | 140 | 298 | 128 |
| 199.91.189.43 - 1 | 806 | 803 | 117 | 134 | 278 | 117 |
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On evening it got worse with 190 average and 6% package lost (at least this evening). I don't really know what to do anymore. SE won't explain what is happening neither. Also I have play for years with PSO2 on JP servers without have any problems. Ok different game but still. Anyway wish to hear some suggestion from some SE ppl here. -
10-07-2013, 07:15 AMInuakurei
I'm not sure what they did but I'm getting what feels like packet loss "spike lag" every once in a while now while in dungeons. I've nevr had lag at all before this and it started happening around last week, and only happens in dungeons. Did they do something to the instance server?.
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10-07-2013, 07:31 AMStarlord
I'm playing the game right now, no problems here. ( could be certain server(s) getting these issues) but I'm not.
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10-07-2013, 07:35 AMroohan
It's the same for me. I wrote macros for making crafting easier and they simply don't work because of the server lag. I go out gathering and sometimes it takes damn long between gathering attempts because of server lags. I farm some monsters and everything freezes for 5 seconds because of the server lag. I did the ifrit fight and got hit from every AoE because of the server lag. Than I did a ping test to my FFXIV server and saw that I have latancy values between 300ms and 400ms constantly and even lost packages while pinging the server. That's definatly broken and it should be their top priority to fix this.
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10-07-2013, 07:37 AMBlack_Pearl
Cause now 00:34 gmt+1 stopped, well stopped around like 30 minutes ago. But before was impossible play titan. Seen him on ground, atatcking him then suddenly everything stop, and 3 seconds after seen him land on center. Really I don't know what to do now, I would like to have fun, but how the heck I can have it if it does this now.
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10-07-2013, 07:47 AMChokee
well, there was a week where i couldn't play at all because i was lagging so much. but then i found out it was my isp doing something to my connection. have you tried calling yours?
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10-07-2013, 07:48 AMKokonoeAiyoko
I'm fine on Ultros.
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10-07-2013, 08:04 AMBabydoll
Happened to a lot of my fc over the weekend.
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10-07-2013, 08:05 AMBlack_Pearl
This is not a week now, is more. I can try ask but doubt is their problem, since seem not only me having this issue. And why now is working without problems while before I couldn't even see titan move? Same happened days ago. Weeks ago doing Garuda, she disappeared and couldn't seen her, she reappeared visible only when she jumped again. At least if some community rep could confirm they having problems with certain instance or servers would make some ppl go less in panic.
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10-07-2013, 06:52 PMBlack_Pearl
Bump - Hoping someone give more info or help.
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10-07-2013, 06:59 PMVydosJoin the large group of people complaining about lagspikes. There have been numerous thread about it in the technical support section. I'm still having issues with it, to the point that I took an almost week long break from it. Because I couldn't farm tomes or complete some quests that require me to fight something...Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Pearl
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10-07-2013, 07:26 PMChoyiThis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vydos
You are by far not alone, a LOT of people are suffering from constant latency issues, making the game more or less unplayable, and the problem is at SE's hands, or rather their CA data centers.
This problem has lasted for soon two weeks, and for many its getting worse as time goes by.
At the moment 1.0 servers where a lot more stable which is realy sad considering 2.0 would have new server structure and all that. -
10-07-2013, 07:33 PMSylveOh no, how horrible. 190 Ping, world is ending!Quote:
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On evening it got worse with 190 average and 6% package lost (at least this evening). I don't really know what to do anymore. SE won't explain what is happening neither. Also I have play for years with PSO2 on JP servers without have any problems. Ok different game but still. Anyway wish to hear some suggestion from some SE ppl here.
Why dont you come on over to Australia, where the best possible ping i can get to an MMO in NA is 250 - 300.
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10-07-2013, 07:47 PMBlack_PearlOk thank you, now that I know it I have the solution. Come on, if you want flame someone change thread. I posted some test for prove im getting what I have been talking about until now L A G S P I K E. Yes, is unplayable for me. How should I say otherwise, when you try fight something, everything stop and after 3-5 seconds you see either him dead, you dead or everything went fucking itself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
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10-07-2013, 07:52 PMAmiantos
Sure wish I had the average 190 that the OP has. My average if I'm not using my phones internet from peak internet usage hours on my base is about 675ms+ and my phones wifi tethering I get about 273-300ms. Hasn't stopped me from clearing Titan HM either, well using my phones internet that is.
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10-07-2013, 08:00 PMBlack_PearlEven if is good ping, why I still getting spikes? That's the question. Also, doesn't matetr to me if have 100 or 300 average, if game lag spike is unplayable even if you have 10 average! Also I'm not complaining about Titan, since I cleared it, I'm complaining about is impossible play now on evening, and is evening that friends start play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiantos
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10-07-2013, 08:09 PMAmiantosI understand you're not complaining about Titan I'm just saying that calling it unplayable because of certain lag spikes is a bit over the top. I've personally have not noticed lag spikes on my server even when it's supposed to be peak play time/ramping up to be peak play time in the states. I'd maybe check your ethernet ports, maybe the cables are going bad that you have. Could even be something with your ISP if it's peak playing time in game it wouldn't be too far fetched that the ISP for your area is getting hit heavily too for internet usage in general. What type of internet do you use is another question. DSL your wiring might be going bad in your walls which can lead to having packet loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Pearl
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10-07-2013, 08:23 PMVydosThe problem you need to understand is this...(I'm bolding this not because I'm angry but to put attention to this part)Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiantos
Everything worked fine for everyone from FFXIV 1.0 till FFXIV Beta->Early launch. The lagspikes suddenly appeared for tons of people out of nowhere and is only affecting FFXIV:ARR. Which again worked perfectly until a certain date.
I for one don't understand how it suddenly became an ISP issue when my and others people connection worked flawlessly. And I also don't understand why S-E isn't adressing the elephant in the room. It would be nice if they clearly stated what we should be doing to fix this issue. In my case, it even seems to be getting worse over time. The last few days, I had R0(lagspikes) that kept leading into d/c, rinse and repeat. -
10-07-2013, 08:32 PMBlack_Pearl
Then everyone would have broken ISP? Come on, I said I can play fine any other MORPG like PSO2 in JAPAN without a single lag, and could play before as well. Sicne you never noticed lag spikes, you don't know how is unplayable the game. I hope you never get any of it, since getting it every damn evening when ppl trying log in (if you dc or reboot game you will notice queue for wait to log) is absurd. I don't know, ppl want always protect SE, it's always fault of players to me for certain ppl, but what if is SE PROBLEM? Also, I can't afford to change ISP, and I don't see why I should since until weeks ago was working fine. As someone pointed, I seen the thread with lot of ppl having same lag spike problems. So, is me or is SE? My friend changed to fiber and still getting spike lags that he had to use Pingzapper... also why community rep can't give any info about it? I know you reading Camate or whoever else.
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10-07-2013, 08:34 PMAmiantosSorry to hear that, I played 1.0 myself and had no issues and still have no issues outside of my bases internet itself. I'm curious to why it effects certain people and not others though. Am I saying there's no issue? No I'm just curious to why certain people are effected and others are not while playing on the same data center/servers. I always tend to assume that a small portion could be attributed to the users issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vydos
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10-07-2013, 08:40 PMAegis
I believe this has been brought up on other forums and most (not all) those affected were NA players on a small range of ISPs (notably Comcast) if seems they think ffxiv is some kind of P2P programme. JP had the same problem in beta.
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10-07-2013, 08:45 PMAmiantosGuess most my FC that I've talked to, my ls and myself are nobodies since you mentioned "everyone" having this issue. I try to mention things to check to see if maybe those are things that could be wrong on your end and you get snippy Never did I say I their servers were perfect, I know very well they're a far cry from perfect as they go down easier than the titanic. But to say "everyone" is having said issues is again over the top. Not everyone uses the forums as a main way to converse about the game unless it's something like the log in issue that 23k+ people had and they only used it to post that issue and went back to their main site they use and even then others still didn't use it even when they had the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Pearl
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10-07-2013, 08:49 PMMochaLatteIt's not just Comcast... I have Time Warner and had similar problems during peak times (California)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegis
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10-07-2013, 08:53 PMBlack_Pearl
Well, you know what? Say that is my ISP fault is over the top, since my ISP is fine. I told you already I have try everything, I play other MORPG just fine. I don't have comcast I think, Im in Italy, not even sure what comcast is. I'm asking at SE a solution, not surely want kill them. Also saying game is playable when you had no lag spikes at all, is oevr the top as well. Again hope you wont get any. I don't care if my ping is 300 or 10, I just want play without spike lags.
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10-07-2013, 09:01 PMEdewen
I work tech support and I truly hate when people give this type of information, deadset on knowing where the problem lies.
Ping tells you the reliability of a connection. That is all. It does not tell you were a connections problems are occurring. For that you need to run traceroutes.
There is a lot of things between your computer and the ip address you want to connect to. Running the trace will check every hop along the way to help narrow down where any abnormal increase in latency is coming from. It may be you, it may be square, it may be your isp, it may be another isp. Without a trace you will never know.
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10-07-2013, 09:06 PMAmiantos
Check your isp then check their stance on p2p as if that is the case on what's going on your ISP might be apart of some Anti p2p/piracy thing. Should SE try and fix it so internet companies will stop flagging it as a p2p application? Yes they should. I use AU for my phone service which I use most of the time to play and its withing the 270-300 range 95% of the time. The 5% is when it would randomly drop LTE and go to 3G. If I'm up late at night playing I'll switch over to my normal internet that is the one ISP for my base and get around 230-240 ms and from 1am-10am on weekends when people are asleep I can play fine after that I get lag because it starts creeping to the 670+ til about 11pm when it finally starts to lower again. Will knowing if your ISP is adamant about stamping out p2p applications and people using them help you with your issue? Doubt it but it's always goo to know your ISP's stance on things like that.
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10-07-2013, 09:13 PMSylve
If it reliably happens to you in the evening, every evening at the same time, the problem is more than likely with your ISP.
You may be getting throttled for being over a certain download limit, or others in the area also on your ISP begin heavy use which affects everyone.
Lastly, you may have people in your home downloading heavily in that time, or even people jacking wireless from you, so check your security. Perhaps you yourself have a torrent program running, or even your AV program doing it.
There are quite a few things you can check before going to the forums and screaming murder at SE demanding they should fix it for you.
Because its happening at a certain time, with regularity, you cant blame SE alone for it, otherwise everyone on your server would report it at the same time. -
10-07-2013, 09:35 PMBlack_Pearl
The question is, I always played till weeks ago without ANY problem, why the ISP turn NOW to block ragnarok host server thinking is a p2p? Why now and not since 1.0 or arr started?
Why I'm online now without a single spike lag (ok I'm not in any instance, just farming formic acid and crafting)? -
10-07-2013, 09:43 PMBlack_Pearl1) None aside me using MY ISP line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
2) I'm not downloading using any type of torrent during playing.
3) I said in case you don't have read, GAME WAS WORKING FINE UNTIL WEEKS AGO.
4) I don't have wireless.
5) http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...cts-Persistent!
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ction-(R0)-lag
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ttle-(Petition)
6) PPL in my servers didn't report maybe, but they said it clear during runs here and there, having spike lags same as me, one of this is a friend in LS.
Is enough for you?
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In case you curious the only thing I have open is Opera, skype, antivirus (Kaspersky) and cFosSpeed which I had before too when game was working. Turned off Opera, it does same. Also, is not happening at same time, could happen at 18:xx gmt+1 or could start at 21:xx. It mostly calm down on late night. -
10-07-2013, 10:10 PMSylveSo you have a personal ISP, that does not serve any customer but yourself? Lucky. Just fyi, ISPs do not have unlimited Bandwidth for everyone connected to its service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Pearl
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Well now. This guy looks a PRIME candidate for screwing with your Internet. Disable THAT for a few days and see where it gets you.Quote:
cFosSpeed - Internet Acceleration with Traffic Shaping and bandwidth management.
If it uses profiling to determine your internet habits, it may have accidently decided to throttle XIV and give that to Skype.
Skype is also known to consume ones bandwidth at times due to the way the Skype servers will use its Users bandwidth to improve others service. -
10-07-2013, 10:16 PMGilbertLapineQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylve
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...alm_statue.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Black_Pearl
Obviously she's saying she doesn't have anyone else using the same router. Don't be a jerk.
Also, there's no need to belittle her problem, especially when a huge swath of the player community is suffering from it as well. That's great if you get great pings. Congratulations on picking the correct ISP/geography to be a winner. Don't treat anyone who didn't like a total nub and a loser. -
10-07-2013, 10:18 PMStuzack
Some ISPs like to throttle FFXIV, because it flags up as P2P on their system. This would explain why you seem to get laggier around peak times.
I was with BT, and we were having terrible problems after 6pm. The game would be unplayable for hours. The only solution in the end was to upgrade to a new contract, which removed throttling, and this fixed the problem completely.
Please Try a Glasnost test to see if you are being throttled during peak times. Run this without FFXIV or anything else in the background. it will tell you if you're being throttled, and that might be what's happening to FFXIV.
And this "cFosSpeed - Internet Acceleration with Traffic Shaping and bandwidth management." sounds like a prime candidate for throttling your speeds too. -
10-07-2013, 10:23 PMSylveIm not belittling anyone. i responded to her tone in the same way she responded to me. Also, referring to ones ISP is makes one think of ISP. Not the number of people inside the persons house. A better way to describe that would be "I'm the only user in my house".Quote:
Originally Posted by GilbertLapine
Also, if you read my post, while sarcastic, I have offered help twice.
Also, if disabling that internet throttling/management program works for this guy, it would be an idea to ask around and see if other such players with the issue run similar programs. -
10-08-2013, 02:24 AMBlack_Pearl
Anyway my ISP told me they don't have politics about server or traffic.
Which doesn't help at all, since make you wonder WHY. -
10-08-2013, 02:41 AMSariyahBlackmane
I was having the same issues.It seems to have everything to do woth data transfer, as my ping is a consistent 50 ms.Let me tell you,healing dungeons was a nightmare considering the screen would freeze fow 1-5 seconds quite frequently.Wireshark ascertained that TWC had my game set to the lowest priority for data transfer.
A quick fix?Try using a VPN such as WtFast.There is a FREE 30 day trial.Setup takes minutes and my dungeon runs are seamless.This,of course, is a temporary fix as I do not intend to pay 9.99 per month for WtFast once the 30 free trial ends.Happy hunting! -
10-08-2013, 05:44 AMroohan
I tracked down my latency issues and it's definatly not my ISP doing anything. The moment my Packets arrive in Asia I have latency values over 200 ms. At the final hop I have a latency of 300ms average. So I guess, I can only hope that transferring to a EU/NA server will at least lower my latency. It's not the fastest way from Germany to Asia.
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10-08-2013, 05:51 AMAlixandir
Same issue, started at same time. Talked to my ISP and nothing on their end. Did every other fix I got suggested and nothing helped. This issue is real, and what more it got really bad simoultaneously for a lot of people. I had no issues in 1.0, alpha, beta, launch.
It gets worse on peak times but it have persisted practically all time of the day the last week. -
10-08-2013, 06:11 AMArchon_Diabolos
Who is your provider? I couldn't find it in your thread.