I'm in a bit of a rut

So, currently my main I play is a WHM, and I love'im to death. The only problem is that, my current connection to the internet is quite sub-par then what i would like it to be, and there isn't anything I can do about it for 2 more months. It causes me to lag out alot, but I've managed to play through up until now, with minimal problems, minus ghosting x3

I'm still playing through the story line and I've gotten to the point where I have to run Stone Vigil. I'm used to running dungeons and they've actually started to really grow on me but the thing is, I got that quest over a week ago, and I have yet to successfully complete it yet. The very first one I did, was through DF. We all get ready and after the first group of trash mobs, both the tank and one of the DPS just stop, and leave the group, followed by the last DPS, leaving me there alone. I got some new randoms about, 5-10 minutes later. We continue on and before we get to the first boss, the tank just leaves and the DPS say to just leave and try it again, It'll be easier then to find a random tank to join. I do and about 20 minutes later, I get my new party. this one runs a bit more smoothly, but again, before we get to the first boss, Tank just ups and leaves, followed by the DPS.

Having that happen twice in a row,got me a bit down thinking my connection was bad and my healing wasn't good. So I figured I try again tomorrow. The next day, I get on and get a party with duty finder instantly. We run through and everything is going great. No body leaves, and everyone is sympathetic towards my lagging issue. They gave me tips on the bosses and told me about the run. Everything was going great... until we get to the end. everything went great until I started to lag. the whole screen stops and I'm just there spamming heal on the tank when next thing i knew, the boss was doing his spam AOE from the sky and everyone but the BLM was dead. They asked I was good and I apologized for the lag. they understood and we went again, this time I didn't laga drop, but we still got wiped. They gave me more tips and we did it again... and again, until we had about 5 minutes left when we all left the group.

This went on for the next five days were I tried running it with members of my FC and some people I had met online. I just feel so bad that I can't get it done, like I'm letting everyone in the party down. I'm trying as hard as I can but even when I get no lag at all, I either end up getting killed because if the stupid aoe, or I get interrupted when I try to heal the tank and they end up dying. i feel like I'm failing as a healer, and that makes me upset because healing is usually the one thing I'm good at in games xD
And If I can't even do a level 41 dungeon, how am I suppose to do anything at end game? Let alone beat the damn thing. I love playing this game and really don't want to wait 2 months to play it again but I feel like I'm not good enough to play as a WHM.

Is there anything I can do? I mean, I know the lag issue is gonna be hard but, is there really just something I'm missing maybe? Is my gear not good enough? Should I try it as another class(would that even count? xD)

I just don't know what to do Dx

I checked your equipment and that's not an equipment issue. You still have 2 wrong items on you: Your Earrings and you wrist.
Wrist: Peridot Bracelet / Aquamarine Bracelet
Ear: Peridot Earrings / Aquamarine Earrings
You can buy those from the market board, just pick the cheaper one, it doesn't really matter.

"i feel like I'm failing as a healer, and that makes me upset because healing is usually the one thing I'm good at in games xD"

I don't know you but from that I assume you lack combat awareness.


I even had to check what boss you have trouble with, but from what I have seen now:
There is 1 AoE everyone gets damage from, you need to heal that, not your fault.

Red Circle spam: If you stand in there, it's your fault.
He flys off and damages 1/3 of the battle field, If you stand in there it's your fault.

You are not playing alone, so no one should take damage from the last two.
If no one takes avoidable damage there should be no issue taking that boss down.

Is there anything you can do? I'm not sure. Its hard to tell if you are or aren't wiping because of lag from reading. If it is because of the lag don't count on yourself able to continue until its resolved unless you can learn to play with it. Healing, well you do need a good connection. DPS can afford to lag as if one dies the party probably won't wipe. If there is nothing you can do about the lag then I have a few suggestions I can make. Level arcanist to 34 and/or blackmage to 26. There are two skills that "could" help with your lag issues. One would be an eye for an eye (arcanist) and swiftcast (thaumaturge) An eye for an eye is a skill where when placed on a party member it has a 20% chance to debuff the enemy. The debuff lasts for 20 seconds and reduces damage done by 10%. The other would be swiftcast. A must have spell. Especially for raising or getting a quick medica off. These will help with your class and you will need them in future end game content.

If the lag still considers to be an issue, I highly recommend doing this until the issue is resolved. You might enjoy playing as a Scholar. With a Scholar you can at least have a fairy who can cure for you during your lag issues. Consider that an option as well. On the plus side, you also can have access of switching to summoner in the instance you rather dps. Switching between the two jobs can also be fun and a good way to level a healing class with having multiple ways of doing so.

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Originally Posted by Merlee

I checked your equipment and that's not an equipment issue. You still have 2 wrong items on you: Your Earrings and you wrist.
Wrist: Peridot Bracelet / Aquamarine Bracelet
Ear: Peridot Earrings / Aquamarine Earrings
You can buy those from the market board, just pick the cheaper one, it doesn't really matter.

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I'll definitely get on these thank you.

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Originally Posted by Merlee

Red Circle spam: If you stand in there, it's your fault.

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I know better then to stand in the aoes :3 but even when do run out of them, or anyone else even we always seem to get hit. I don't know if its just the lag, or if it was just a buggy mechanic, like when I faced Titan and i could be on the other side of the arena and get pushed off.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

DPS can afford to lag as if one dies the party probably won't wipe.

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I've thought of this, so the past couple of days I've been playing around with all of the classes, which I may end up doing.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

Level arcanist to 34 and/or blackmage to 26. There are two skills that "could" help with your lag issues. One would be an eye for an eye (arcanist) and swiftcast (thaumaturge) An eye for an eye is a skill where when placed on a party member it has a 20% chance to debuff the enemy. The debuff lasts for 20 seconds and reduces damage done by 10%. The other would be swiftcast. A must have spell. Especially for raising or getting a quick medica off. These will help with your class and you will need them in future end game content.

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My friend was just telling me about these skills, so I started leveling my them and acranist more to get them.hopefully they can help me out a bit. ^^

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Originally Posted by Nullie

You might enjoy playing as a Scholar. With a Scholar you can at least have a fairy who can cure for you during your lag issues. Consider that an option as well. On the plus side, you also can have access of switching to summoner in the instance you rather dps. Switching between the two jobs can also be fun and a good way to level a healing class with having multiple ways of doing so.

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This I may try before going after other classes(though I did enjoy monk lol) since I'll be able to still be healy and have an option for DPS, though I'm still a little unfamiliar with the ways that Scholars work. Guess I need to do some research :3

The final boss of Stone Vigil can be hard - I had real trouble seeing the stretches of the arena that would glow before the boss did his strafing breath attacks, and often by the time I realised I was in one, I couldn't get out fast enough... I think it was luck and practice that finally got me through there - learning the patterns in a way you can't from just having someone tell you about them.
One thing that I've discovered since, because I was having trouble with a similar sort of attack that I couldn't see quick enough in Ifrit HM, is that if you zoom your camera out all the way, and can see almost the entire arena, it's a lot easier to see those attacks and get out the way!
This might not solve your problems, since you're getting lag issues, but it's worth a try :)

If your having latency issues try battleping. I've beaten this many times as a non-FATE grinder. Just have to learn his little rotation and stay out of the bad

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Originally Posted by Ethryo

Is there anything I can do?

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One thing to help you keep an eye on the field and healing at the same time (if you haven't already) move your HUD around.

http://i.imgur.com/ti9fZK1.jpg

Put your party list closer to the middle of the screen so you can easiler see the ground and your party's life. Also when you do this, you need to make sure you move the enemy list too cos they will overlap and you need to see that to know how much hate you're generating. If you didn't know:

Green Square: They are ignoring you
Yellow Triangle: Warning, they are ignoring you but will turn if you keep doing that (lol)
Orange Triangle: Bitch stop that! they are now gonna dance between you and the tank.
Red Square: Oh you gone and done it now! Full hate on you!

And my final tip (you probably already know all these) zoom completely out in boss fights. It makes spotting aoe so much easier!!!

Hope i helped even a smidgen

Keep yourself alive first so you can keep everyone else alive.

I noticed a lot of ppl have trouble dodging the flying ice breath. The filed is cut up into 3rds if you stand at a junction it's easier for you to evade.
Picture the atk area like #
3 down and 3 across, stand at any intersection, you will be on the edge of the atk area or be safe.

good luck, may the force be with you

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Originally Posted by Jarlax

If your having latency issues try battleping. I've beaten this many times as a non-FATE grinder. Just have to learn his little rotation and stay out of the bad

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There's also Wtfast which i prefer personally. My latency dropped from around 300 to 120 of less. The first month is free, give it a go.

Do i like to use latency service? No i don't. Does it make a difference in fast paced fights like Titan? Yes it does.

Also maybe try putting graphics on a lower setting, if it isn't already.

Several pieces of your gear have no mind stat at all. The determination gives such a minimal boost to your heals that it's not even worth equipping unless all possible venues for boosting mind are completely maxed out. Think of it this way: 9 determination = 1 mind. It would be quite easy to boost your mind by over 10 points just by swapping out those jewelry pieces. This would make you a significantly more effective healer.

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I would say "Go level a Scholar!" but you've already progressed so far as a White Mage it would be a shame to give up (Definitely level a Scholar though because they are awesome!). Also think of the poor NPC's they'll be expecting this awesome White Mage (you) to show up to help them and then "What?! you're a Scholar now?" <-- I digress.

Keeping Regen ticking on the Tank and anyone who takes damage is a really good way to get some breathing room as you can relax and reassess the group and see how everyone is doing for 3 seconds or so while you wait for GBC.

Also if everyone is topped up on HP don't be afraid to re-apply Stoneskin on the tank + others if you have time! 18% of max tank HP is 1-2 attacks you don't need to heal :)

I think it's sweet that you care so much ^.^

Now go be the best White Mage you can be, if that fails go play a Bard like everyone else :D x

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Originally Posted by ToxiqFyre

Keeping Regen ticking on the Tank and anyone who takes damage is a really good way to get some breathing room as you can relax and reassess the group and see how everyone is doing for 3 seconds or so while you wait for GBC.

Also if everyone is topped up on HP don't be afraid to re-apply Stoneskin on the tank + others if you have time! 18% of max tank HP is 1-2 attacks you don't need to heal :)

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I have to strongly disagree with this advice about regen. Putting regen on the entire party will pull to much aggro since it causes you to pull hate every tick. Multiply this by 4 and you will die very fast. I even avoid using it if the tank is trying to hold more than 3 mobs or having a difficult time in general.

Not the greatest of options, but if you have a summoner in your FC, run the instance with them. Should things go bad, they can toss out a few Physics to keep people up till your lag spike subsides and you can get back on it. In addition, they get a raise so should you die mid fight, they can get you back up. Lastly, don't be afraid to use the limit break to save the group. If you come back from a lag spike and several people are low on health, it is an easy way to bring everyone back.

None of these will save you in later harder fights, but it should be enough to get you through.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.All of you for your replies ^^ after changing some things around, working together with some very, VERY awesome people, I finally got through. After reading all of your comments and trying some new stuff, it was as if there was no problem at all. I didn't get to try out using some things like the ARN and THM skills but I'm definitely gonna work towards getting them :3 But thank you all again, I honestly didn't think i would get the replies that I received and I'm quite thankful for the support ^^

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

I have to strongly disagree with this advice about regen. Putting regen on the entire party will pull to much aggro since it causes you to pull hate every tick. Multiply this by 4 and you will die very fast. I even avoid using it if the tank is trying to hold more than 3 mobs or having a difficult time in general.

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Well you can tell how much aggro you have in the Mob Bar so Shroud of Saints is just 1 click away. That was mainly a tip for the boss as the tanks I'll say 'rarely' lose aggro if they're paying attention. Not saying everyone should do it was only my 2cents :)

& Gratz on finally beating it!