Am I the only one with good end-game/DF experience so far?

Hello,

There are SO MANY threads about how terrible DF seem to be, how players don't know their job, how people complain about equipment, about speed runners...

I am the only one who have close to 0 problems?
I had some bad runs of course but even with my FC we had bad runs (which we still laugh about how bad they were)
but that's not even 1% of the runs I did

• I watched all cutscene for my first CM and Praetorium, nobody complained
• I did my fair share of Ifrit runs and only with one team we could not make it (but it was more of a lack of time thing and one player had to go)
• I run Chimera with strangers from a shout in Coerthas, few wipes but we did not gave up and all made it together
• and yesterday I did AK for the first time without having watched any kind of explanation video or guide (just knew "be careful Demon Wall is tough) and we wiped twice at DW and once at final boss but the people I was with were cool about it and now I know the mechanics to run it again

I don't know... I have so few problems that I am not sure if people on the boards and I are playing the same game...

Am I just lucky or some people out there are also having a good time with nice players?

I haven't had a bad dungeon finder experience yet. Its just people are going aren't going to go out of their way to say, yea I used DF and everything went well. It's the complaints that get posted a lot.

I got my 5 (five) Relic weapons, farmed total 19710 Tomestones.
All done it via Duty Finder without much trouble since I'm FC-less and pretty much a lone wolf.

But I did run into some rude people once in a while which spoiled my day. :mad:

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just saying :)

Asia/Oceania, the place to be :)

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Originally Posted by Cairn

I got my 5 (five) Relic weapons, farmed total 19710 Tomestones.
All done it via Duty Finder without much trouble since I'm FC-less and pretty much a lone wolf.

But I did run into some rude people once in a while which spoiled my day. :mad:

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wait , you not only leveled 5 characters to 50, you also have all 5 relic weapons and farmed 20k tomestones? wtf do you sleep?

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Originally Posted by Celestine

wait , you not only leveled 5 characters to 50, you also have all 5 relic weapons and farmed 20k tomestones? wtf do you sleep?

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I leveled my characters to 50 back in v1.0, but yeah I did spend lots of time on Titan fight & tomestones tough.

I have had many great experiences so far in DF as well.
Though, people generally only come to the forums to complain.

Most of the DFs I've been to was rewarding, sometimes I wish I could befriend and get to know some of the awesome personalities from other servers. My favorite DFs are the ones where the 1st timers do wipe (sometimes multiple times), but over time you see improvement to the point to where the players took time to learn and totally own the event. Of course you have to have thick skin for the occasional donkey's butt who goes full retard with the caps lock key and rages at the party, but hey that's part of the mmo experience lol.

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Originally Posted by GrimmWulf

I have had many great experiences so far in DF as well.
Though, people generally only come to the forums to complain.

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Agreed. These forums ARE for complaining and solely for that. I've had good experiences as well, beating dungeons with first-time players. I remember a few instances where even JP players would ask for the group to take a screenshot with a pose (guessing for blog?) out of sheer joy for completing it. Puts a smile on my face.

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Originally Posted by Thatispookins

Agreed. These forums ARE for complaining and solely for that. I've had good experiences as well, beating dungeons with first-time players. I remember a few instances where even JP players would ask for the group to take a screenshot with a pose (guessing for blog?) out of sheer joy for completing it. Puts a smile on my face.

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Indeed, I have beaten a number of the trickier levelling dungeons with 1 shots on bosses & things with a nice friendly group.
I can't complain about my experiences thus far

You gotta remember people are posting on the forums honestly just to complain and get people riled up, this is how the XI forums were 1.0 forums also. People who live on the forums are not getting the same time in others are so they take a couple bad experiences and then throw it to the hungry pack of bottom feeders on the forums. hence another reason Gen Dis is just a forum full of hate, crying and BS.

I love DF. It makes my day sometimes, running/messing around with HM Titan and coaching newer players through it. I dunno that's where I find the most fun these days in FFXIV aside from the twintania wipes.

I've had more good groups than bad. I think pat of the issue is unhappy people say so to everyone around, and happy people don't feel the need to go on about it. So you hear the bad stories of DF far more than the good/neutral ones.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Hello,

There are SO MANY threads about how terrible DF seem to be, how players don't know their job, how people complain about equipment, about speed runners...
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Considering I remember seeing your account on the forums come game launch, yeah no wonder youve had an easy time with people and DF :p Just sayin. Lol

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Sorry but what does it mean?

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Edit: This means you were part of the first wave of people and probably were one of the ones that rushed to end so saying that, you probably never had an issue with gear because you were one of the first to get it. No one ever questioned you because at that point it would have been absurd and hypocritical.

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Originally Posted by ArcheustheWise

Considering I remember seeing your account on the forums come game launch, yeah no wonder youve had an easy time with people and DF :p Just sayin. Lol

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Sorry but what does it mean?

OP, clearly you're kind of new to 50 cap. It will come, lol. I hope it doesn't, but I know it will.

As to ifrit, I haven't had a bad ifrit yet. Ifrit is too easy, and too easy to get into, for people to get mad about.
Haven't done Chim
I've had AK groups that wiped, dusted themselves off, and went at it again, and I've had perfect, fast, runs where people still found something to rage about.

I filter out shouts, have a fantastic FC, and only come to the official forums these days when I'm pretty drunk, it's like visiting a zoo.

Follow these three steps and you too can have a wonderful endgame experience like me!

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Originally Posted by ArcheustheWise

Edit: This means you were part of the first wave of people and probably were one of the ones that rushed to end so saying that, you probably never had an issue with gear because you were one of the first to get it. No one ever questioned you because at that point it would have been absurd and hypocritical.

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I started from Arcanist at advanced release and I became lv 50 on Sep 26 2013 (so basically a week ago)
I cleared story last week end did chimera 2 days ago and AK yesterday for the first time
I also got my very first piece of DL this week

so no, I absolutely did not rushed my friend. i think we can even say that I am pretty slow (only leveled 1 job from 1 to 50 since release)
please feel free to check my xivpads

I only use DF even though I have FC/LS...I don't know why. I've had nothing but good runs. I've had runs where we kept wiping but no one left and everyone kept encouraging each other and so on.

What I've learned from playing MMOs is that people will have 4000 good runs. Let something go wrong 3 times and that's all you will ever hear about.

So here is what I have found: duty finder group matters. Time of day matters. Which dungeon matters. I found out that during NA prime time, avoid duty finder like the plague. But that only seems to be true in certains groups. So I have characters in 4 of the different DF groups because I am so spread out. So in other words: some of the people complaining truly only ever see the problems, because when, and where (and what) they run they have a statistically higher chance of seeing it. Like all the problem players are running at the same time, in the same groups/worlds.

Does that make sense? I have had more good experiences than bad, but when I have had bad, they always seem to be in the same places and at the same times of day.

I had great runs with DF groups going through the main story with nothing but positive experiences.

I've been doing DF over the last few days for Garuda HM to farm weapons, and I have to say that can be extremely hit and miss.
I've been in fantastic groups where everything goes smoothly and everyone knows the deal (i.e. which tank is grabbing what and placing where etc), and then I've had some really bad groups where people say they know what they're doing and really don't.

It does bug me when if something goes wrong once, rather than trying again, people just leave straight away without even saying anything. I have often found that if you persevere for a round or two, most people get into the rhythm- accidents/bad timing can happen, we're all human. There are of course times when you have to cut your losses and the DPS simply isn't there, or people don't learn the fight (where to run to and when) after making the same error constantly.

I am kind of looking forward to the gear check for dungeons/raids; I have to say that as WHM my heart sinks when I see tanks in full AF gear and level 39 aetherial accessories for Garuda HM.... I have maybe had a few wins with PLDs dressed like this, but it was a strain and both of us healers were having to ride out Shroud of Saints timers with some close calls near the end. I do not believe that gear makes a player, but it sure helps improve an already competent player and ease things on the rest of the party. Spamming heals on a tank that loses over half their HP every hit is not my idea of fun. I'm hoping (probably naively) that it helps to improve the DF group experience for certain things, and prevent the arguments.

There can be some very nice, patient, polite, easy-going people to be found within the DF... but it's a bit like a box of chocolates (as the saying goes).

I have been pretty lucky so far. Most things have been full LS/FC parties, but there have been a couple of the later storyline fights that we had to DF for a few extras. Thankfully, they were all pretty understanding. Had no problems with us watching cutscenes, and didn't complain when we screwed up, they even gave advice in a friendly manner.

My roommate, on the other hand, has had some pretty hellacious DF encounters; people throwing fits and dropping, blaming others for their mistakes, being verbally abusive towards others, etc.