Titan Gear

Not sure why SE gave Titan weapons, when most people do him just to finish their relic quest. It just makes his weapons for show, they are just useless.
They should have him drop rings, that have the same ilevel as the DL ones, but different sub stats. This would help brds, tanks, casters and tanks who just got one DL ring.

Even for the more ambitious of us who are actaully going for all relics, these are still useful when actually doing the titan fight for your relic. Also, they look awesome.

Don't change primal drops!

Titan drops are the same as Garuda, you get her weapon to kill him once to get your relic. I have never done a Titan kill with someone using the Titan weapons.

The weapons are not useless. Choosing "Need" on the same class weapon that you just killed Titan with is useless. If people pass on their own class weapon if it drops it will help others kill titan on other jobs. It might not make sense now, but in several months when people are leveling their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, jobs through Titan.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

The weapons are not useless. Choosing "Need" on the same class weapon that you just killed Titan with is useless. If people pass on their own class weapon if it drops it will help others kill titan on other jobs. It might not make sense now, but in several months when people are leveling their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, jobs through Titan.

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I have people on their 4th or 5th 50 in my FC, they have their Garuda weapon for Titan. It's the same ilevel, same magic/attack power on a fight that takes 6-7 minutes. I'm just saying there is no reason to get and use a Titan weapon, but I guess you guys like the look or something.

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Originally Posted by Etgar

I have people on their 4th or 5th 50 in my FC, they have their Garuda weapon for Titan. It's the same ilevel, same magic/attack power on a fight that takes 6-7 minutes. I'm just saying there is no reason to get and use a Titan weapon, but I guess you guys like the look or something.

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Yet they don't have earth resistance do they? Have you seen the damage mitigation from resistances? Its no wonder they are such a rare stat.

I just don't know, your complaint seems completely trivial to me.

So you're saying, that ~2.5% less earth damage, will make or break your group?

No. That is not what I am saying. Where did I say anything to the effect that resistance is a required stat? Your argument is that the weapons are for show, but that is only the case if you Need on them with the class you beat him with, which is a selfish and pointless thing to do. If anything they should remove the ability to "Need" Titan weapons.

Example: I beat Titan with my DRG and the BLM weapon drops. I greed and get it. Now when I level my BLM up, as soon as I hit 50, boom, I have a quality weapon. No grinding or purchasing required. This is the benefit of Titan weapons. You are already getting your relic after you beat him, the weapon drops just help you beat him with other jobs.

So you don't care about the earth resistances.
You're saying they are doing it for your other jobs that you want a good solid weapon for when you hit 50.
So I'll ask you this, would you like to do Titan 10+ times to get your blm weapon or Garuda?

Why would you do Garuda 10+ times to get your weapon instead of Ifrit? Do you see how assinine this conversation is?
I'm not grinding Titan for gear. I didn't grind Garuda for gear. I didn't gind Ifrit for gear. Did I have to? No. Could I if I wanted to? Yes.
Are the drops required? No.
Are the drops nice to have? Yes.

That is it. The Primal fights aren't designed to drop gear you absolutely need, they serve other purposes. Their drops are just a bonus you get for completion.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

Why would you do Garuda 10+ times to get your weapon instead of Ifrit? Do you see how assinine this conversation is?

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Because Garuda drops a two handed staff vs a one handler like Ifrit(also higher Ilevel). Because you need something better than a level 44 weapon for Titan.

It's just Titan that has the useless drops, which is why I made this thread. Garuda's drops serve the purposes of gearing for Titan, Titan's drops are for looks.

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Originally Posted by Etgar

Because Garuda drops a two handed staff vs a one handler like Ifrit(also higher Ilevel). Because you need something better than a level 44 weapon for Titan.

It's just Titan that has the useless drops, which is why I made this thread. Garuda's drops serve the purposes of gearing for Titan, Titan's drops are for looks.

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Titans drops serve the purpose for alternate jobs... how many times do I have to say this. I'm done with this convo. It is pointless and will go nowhere. You obviously cannot wrap your head around the fact that people level more than 1 job in this game and that the primal weapons are nice to haves and are by no means required. There are equal alternatives that can be purchased / crafted.

Well I tried, but you seem to not understand.

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Originally Posted by Etgar

Titan's drops are for looks.

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And this is exactly why I have all 9 different Titan weapons in my inventory now :D

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Originally Posted by CompSci88

And this is exactly why I have all 9 different Titan weapons in my inventory now :D

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I mean some look cool, the shield is the only primal shield. But than you get your relic and turn 1 drops the shield as well.
The Whm staff is cool, almost very druid like.

I farm Titan/Garuda HM for myth and alt classes. Primal weapons looks cool enough anyway and also for collection.

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Originally Posted by Etgar

Well I tried, but you seem to not understand.

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i get it. and i see his point.
he's saying that the drops are not meant to be grinded for, it is kinda pointless to grind for shield of crags as a paladin when you just get a holy shield a few minutes/hours later. it is better to "greed" on these bosses rather than "need" so someone else who isn't using the class/job you are using might get it so they have a head start gear wise once they reach level 50 for that job the weapon that dropped needs.

for instance, i have the summoner weapon "ifrit's grimore" from an ifrit run a while ago. i do not have that job, but if i were to level summoner to 50, i would immediately have high level gear so i don't have to waste time grinding for one and can focus on getting darklight gear instead.

But unless you don't have the job there, they will need on it, because it's for looks. It's not for grinding out gear, but a good item would be nice, like a ring.
Even doing BC the shield dropped, we had people in the group that have pld as a 2'd/3'd 50, but the pld in the group with +1 relic could and did need, for looks.
Like I was saying, if you want a weapon for a alt, Garuda is 5x easier and faster to do. I have a whole set of weapons from her.
The only reason I could see to kill Titan for a alt would be for the shield, seeing how WP is the only other level 50 zone before BC that drops one. But you know the pld will need on it, so bring a War. >_>

These weapons can all be converted into good materia, so not useless. If my garuda/ifrit weapon is capped white, and that weapon drops on titan..guess what i just got myself a hopefully good materia :D

So thats about the only reason to want that weapon, aside from aesthetics, is to convert my older primal weapon into a hopefully awesome materia.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

The weapons are not useless. Choosing "Need" on the same class weapon that you just killed Titan with is useless. If people pass on their own class weapon if it drops it will help others kill titan on other jobs. It might not make sense now, but in several months when people are leveling their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, jobs through Titan.

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This is how I got my Cane of Crags when I got the kill for my DRG Relic =p