Please end your retainers HQ sales in 1-2-3.

Im sure this has been posted here already. But just in case... Ill give another hit on the topic to keep the ball rolling. The more people that hear about this, the more it will likely catch on and stick. So feel free to bump it once in a while to keep the idea surfacing. I'm starting to see it now in small doses, but the idea hasn't really spread. Just giving a shout out to all the folks out there who may not know it: Please end HQ retainer sales with the corresponding number of the HQ.

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If you have an item thats HQ, for the sake of this example lets take a firebrand+2:
price it like so..... 900,002

It would really help folks who are looking for HQ items if they ended with the corresponding number. I know this will take a while to gain popularity, but its not really a new idea. However, not everyone has heard it. So please pass it along to your LS's and spread the word. It really would make selling HQ items significantly easier if more people started using this method.

alot of people already do this

its been catching on quite nicely

But remember the search only shows the 20 lowest for sale. So at times it hard to sell them. I do the 1,2 and 3 when i sell them

One downfall I see is if there are people who sell things regularly that don't end the price in 0.
Ex. Someone sells something for 50,341, not even knowing people do this HQ pricing thing.
Also, what's to stop people from raising a price on an item and adding a 1, 2, or 3 on the end to make it look HQ when it's really not?

I suppose there are risks you take. :\

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

One downfall I see is if there are people who sell things regularly that don't end the price in 0.
Ex. Someone sells something for 50,341, not even knowing people do this HQ pricing thing.
Also, what's to stop people from raising a price on an item and adding a 1, 2, or 3 on the end to make it look HQ when it's really not?

I suppose there are risks you take. :\

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Well I would assume you'd find out it wasn't HQ when you went to buy it?

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Originally Posted by Mack

Well I would assume you'd find out it wasn't HQ when you went to buy it?

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no kidding
and youd piss off the person who was looking for hqs, and they wont buy from you at all; probly

It would be nice if the hq's could also be listed on the search menu although the 01, 02, 03 is working.

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Originally Posted by Gracious

It would be nice if the hq's could also be listed on the search menu although the 01, 02, 03 is working.

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something tells me thats on the menu to be added

Or just adjust the market wards so we can look for HQs. Kind of hard to show people you have HQs if the wards are flooded with NQs.

to much hassle when the developers should just fix this, not us.

Personally I think the + items are way overpriced, was like that in FFXI as well, the stats you gain from them are very minor and sure once you have + on all gear you start to see a small effect but the price just doesn't justify it, sorry for posting off topic.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Well I would assume you'd find out it wasn't HQ when you went to buy it?

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I would assume the same, but sucks for the person who bought it thinking it was something else.

Problem is when there's 20+ NQs up for sale. I'm not sure the best way to deal with this other than go back to using YG.

How about this

Any dev that may peek at this

suggestion add + items to the search list

Add an ebay style auction house that is world wide already and end this mess.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

Personally I think the + items are way overpriced, was like that in FFXI as well, the stats you gain from them are very minor and sure once you have + on all gear you start to see a small effect but the price just doesn't justify it, sorry for posting off topic.

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everything ingeneral is over priced >.> Honestly, as a new person I'm having a hard time getting anything in this game. I currently fail to see how "easy" it is to earn gil in the game. Sorry but 40-50K for a low level all class gear with barely any stats. Its like wtf.....

Sure I do not "have to" buy gear But I like keeping up to date. Currently I only got 22K gil most I had was 25K. I'm doing levequests in Ud'dah and selling stuff I do not need. Not even ffxi was bad went it came to low level gear.....

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

Add an ebay style auction house that is world wide already and end this mess.

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that wouldn't fix it. Wards are an interactive AH already. And imo I like wards over ffxi/WoW/Aions AH system. Infact including in walking to retainer I spend roughly the same amount of time using both. With ffxi more so, the walking time can be as much time taken when your bids do not match the items price. I've hunted and got multiply items from the wards in roughly the same time it took me to get the same amount of items from the ffxi ah. And that was roughly 10 min. This included looking for a hat, body, feet, hand and pant gear.

That and market warsds have that kitchy shopping music AH don;t (and I love the music, reminds me of the 1950s comercials for macy's and other old stores. (comcast has a tab that shows old time comercials) )

No need, a fix is coming to the Market Wards soon, they're making it an AH.

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

I would assume the same, but sucks for the person who bought it thinking it was something else.

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What do you mean? You can find out if its HQ or not when you see it in the retainer before you purchase it, it just doesn't show up in the search is all :).

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Originally Posted by Mack

What do you mean? You can find out if its HQ or not when you see it in the retainer before you purchase it, it just doesn't show up in the search is all :).

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My mistake, I was told something different. Sorry for the confusion.
And I misread what you said. XD

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Originally Posted by Mack

No need, a fix is coming to the Market Wards soon, they're making it an AH.

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proof? or you just doing wishful thinking. Honestly though like I said. I haven't had any issue with the market wards and spend the same amount of time I did in ffxi at the AH buying items that I do buying items in the market wards.
Honestly the search function is set up like ffxi ah system you just walk to the retainer, which is the same amount of time it can take bidding on items. Which you buy out right.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

I currently fail to see how "easy" it is to earn gil in the game.

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Honestly your not really even coming close to seeing the potential of your ability to make money with only a couple days worth of game play. But trust me, you can definitely make enough gil to be functional in this game.

I been playing on Bohdum for 5 months, it starts slow, but you gain momentum rapidly. I suggest fishing,botany, or mining if your wanting to make some gil over the long term. Once you get into your mid 30's you can really start making tons of money.

For a short term solution you can start turning tiger cod into wind shards @R1 Alchemy. They sell rapidly, a small investment in tiger cod and lightning shards can yeild exponential returns. Indeed its not nearly as good as it was last December before EVERYONE started doing it, but you will still see a tidy profit regardless. Wind shards seem to hold around 170-190 on my server. Which is still plenty of room for profit.

Also getting into an LS with established players will also help you out. A power leveling session from a higher level will get you to 20 in a couple hours no contest. If you really sat down and smashed it out, you can do all your DoW and DoM classes to 20 in a weekend with plenty time for breaks, meals, sleep.

Hope this helps somewhat.

vix... 1 i'm doing all 3 gathering classes 2 no excuse for low level gear to be as high priced as it is. 3 i do not mooch off of players, or enjoy getting power leveled.

Thanks for the cod tim though, still no excuse for level 4 gear to be 20K

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

everything ingeneral is over priced >.> Honestly, as a new person I'm having a hard time getting anything in this game. I currently fail to see how "easy" it is to earn gil in the game. Sorry but 40-50K for a low level all class gear with barely any stats. Its like wtf.....

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get a fishing to fish cod. Kill mobs for lighting shards. Fish up melp to duplicate your lightning shards. Use shards on cod to make wind shards. Sell wind shards at 100k it whatever price is. Repeat by buying fish in limsa. Do 10 stacks to get 1m then you are sorted.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

vix... 1 i'm doing all 3 gathering classes 2 no excuse for low level gear to be as high priced as it is. 3 i do not mooch off of players, or enjoy getting power leveled.

Thanks for the cod tim though, still no excuse for level 4 gear to be 20K

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if only you know how annoying it is to make those gears, no one really sell low level gear anymore on my server, 20k isnt even worthy of their effort.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

proof?

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He already mentioned it in one of the letters. And personally I can't wait. The wards have too many flaws to them.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

if only you know how annoying it is to make those gears, no one really sell low level gear anymore on my server, 20k isnt even worthy of their effort.

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Honestly no. And yes I do craft in this game. I farm all my stuff or do guildleves (which give mats to do the craft on so your leveling it for free) ffxiv crafting set yup is exactly how ffxi was. And ffxi items did not cost 20K for a level 4 item. And infact ffxi crafting set up was worst then ffxiv. Take cornettes for example, they are infact a low level bonecraft in ffxi, but you need brass sheets which was a mid level goldsmith craft. And needed goldsmithing leveled to really be succsessful. Same thing with other items in ffxi. Another example is the salon sub for cooking test in ffxi the bread is actually a mid level item. Only difference is ffxiv has craft and gathering as classes. But they are the same. People just have a self made entiltement about crafting in this game. (which makes them sound crazy)

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

He already mentioned it in one of the letters. And personally I can't wait. The wards have too many flaws to them.

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which one I've read allk their letters. And what flaws? minus the server/ward crash which isn't really SE fault players flodded 1 sec of wards. I haven't ran into any issues with the wards. I buy stuff quickly and go about my day. Only reason I would hang in the wards is to listen to the music.

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Originally Posted by viion

get a fishing to fish cod. Kill mobs for lighting shards. Fish up melp to duplicate your lightning shards. Use shards on cod to make wind shards. Sell wind shards at 100k it whatever price is. Repeat by buying fish in limsa. Do 10 stacks to get 1m then you are sorted.

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thanks for the tip but still no excuse for the over priced gear. I do not play ffxiv all day. And only got a 2 hr limit. so how would this work out for that?

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

which one I've read allk their letters. And what flaws? minus the server/ward crash which isn't really SE fault players flodded 1 sec of wards. I haven't ran into any issues with the wards. I buy stuff quickly and go about my day. Only reason I would hang in the wards is to listen to the music.

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*Wards aren't (and more than likely can't be) linked. So unless you're in UD good luck finding what you want
*Restocking/transfering to a retainer is annoying
*Running back and forth to ward to ward gets tiresome when you're trying to gear up a new class
*Limit on retainers per ward

.....Wouldn't have to do this with a proper auction house, just saying.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

vix... 1 i'm doing all 3 gathering classes 2 no excuse for low level gear to be as high priced as it is. 3 i do not mooch off of players, or enjoy getting power leveled.

Thanks for the cod tim though, still no excuse for level 4 gear to be 20K

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so your saying 20k is too expensaive for 30 minutes worth of work?
im not kidding thats how long it takes to get it all set up

also add in that vendors sell most of that gear, why make it

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

vix... 1 i'm doing all 3 gathering classes

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You say you're doing all three gathering classes but your sig only shows your fishing at Rank 5? Now you could be doing it on a secondary character... but with the two hour time limit that you said you have, that seems a waste of time if you have so little time to raise your primary? You also say you farm your materials... I see you are doing Goldsmiting? You should really take up Mining with your Goldsmithing... it would work well with it for materials.

Also, and I'm not saying this is a mean way... all of your classes are very low. The materials and gil you receive from leves doesn't start rising higher until about Rank 20. Once you hit that you will see a better flow of money. Now I actually am raising all 3 gathering classes and all of my crafts, I do farm as much of my materials as I can and my shell helps me get a lot as well. But I also give them materials I receive from my gathering that I don't need for my crafting. It took me a bit to get started, and while I'm not rich, I haven't really had issues with gil.

I'd get into a shell that is supportive and will help you to be honest. We support one another, help one another and work for a common goal. There is nothing wrong with receiving help from within a shell if you are giving back equally, its the way the game works.

Good Luck.


As for the TOPIC of this thread... I had forgotten about the 01, 02, 03 at the end when selling + items. I'll use it from here out to better help people find what they need until SE implements something that will allow people to see from the search menu what the item's are. :)

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

Honestly no. And yes I do craft in this game. I farm all my stuff or do guildleves (which give mats to do the craft on so your leveling it for free) ffxiv crafting set yup is exactly how ffxi was. And ffxi items did not cost 20K for a level 4 item. And infact ffxi crafting set up was worst then ffxiv. Take cornettes for example, they are infact a low level bonecraft in ffxi, but you need brass sheets which was a mid level goldsmith craft. And needed goldsmithing leveled to really be succsessful. Same thing with other items in ffxi. Another example is the salon sub for cooking test in ffxi the bread is actually a mid level item. Only difference is ffxiv has craft and gathering as classes. But they are the same. People just have a self made entiltement about crafting in this game. (which makes them sound crazy)

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http://ffxiv.yg.com/recipe/hempen-robe?id=1463

here, find all of this material in your 2hour playtime, find someone that is willing to craft it for you. i bet you'll give up halfway and just pay 20k for it. lol

I have a guide on my blog that might help. The Lodestone >>> Genine Asura blog >>> Page 3. I have listed the mobs to kill to take all crafts from 1 ~ 20, at the same time you are ranking up your jobs. I ranked up all my dow/dom jobs from 1 to 10 in one hour each with no leve involvement. I used starter gear to rank 12. I also have listed where to get the starting weapons/tools in every city. I hope it helps.

No thanks, they need to display HQ items on the search list, until then I will price them as I currently do.

The economy in this game is messed up and will continue to be until SE add some serious money sinks. Most people I know have or are approaching 100mil gil. Leves and NPCed crafted items are probably adding 200-300mil new gil to each server every day. That's a huge amount and is the source of many problems to come. So why should people with so much gil make a 20k item? If I can't sell something for over 100k, I don't make it unless it's end-game gear that I'm trying to HQ.

Low rank gear should be made by low rank crafters, new players like yourself. Problem is there aren't many new players to cater to this market. I would suggest doing some side quests for their gear rewards, get a battle class to 23 and start doing rank 30 leves. You'll get a lot of gil. Rank up gathering classes and kill mobs that drop items people want. Sell them. Do leather leves, you can make a fortune selling the hides they give you.

i am pretty sure it would be easier for the developer to simply show the full name of the item (item+1/2/3) than having people on all servers adjust the pricing.

Using the ones digit coding helps you, the vendor, the most. Saves the buyers a little bit of time. There's really no reason not to use it. Yes, naturally half the HQ's are not even going to be in the 20-cheapest on the market, but a lot of the times they are.

I will also say that folks...if your NQ thousand needle hasn't sold for 8k in the last 30 days, it's time to NPC it. It's garbage. Stop trying to sell 10 of them so people can actually look at the HQs the server has to offer.

Know when your product is trash that the market doesn't want, and don't put it up.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

Using the ones digit coding helps you, the vendor, the most. Saves the buyers a little bit of time. There's really no reason not to use it. Yes, naturally half the HQ's are not even going to be in the 20-cheapest on the market, but a lot of the times they are.

I will also say that folks...if your NQ thousand needle hasn't sold for 8k in the last 30 days, it's time to NPC it. It's garbage. Stop trying to sell 10 of them so people can actually look at the HQs the server has to offer.

Know when your product is trash that the market doesn't want, and don't put it up.

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lol theres a guy ojn Besaid who offers silver needles as rewards for repairs, its like asking to do it for free