Keep Fantasia as a sub reward

Ie.. don't make it a paid service.

As the game almost directly intends you to only play one character (via subscription tiers and class structure) id say its almost needed to provide fantasia either cheaply in game or very regularly via sub rewards. For me, its all fine and good while i've got alot of story and classes left, but once all that's done, I can see myself wanting a change, realizing i'll have to pay additional for it, and just decide its easier to go off and play one of the many mmo's i've already played. Start all over to get 2 fantasias? Hell no.

More positively, knowing i'll have the flexibility to change my appearance if i want to would help keep that same old character fresh. In other games you have the variety of different characters by their design (new characters for each class).. so this isn't a problem.

My suggestion would be to give everyone a complimentary fantasia every 1-3 months. It would be a positive for me to keep subbing at least.

I'm playing 2 characters on different servers at the moment simply because I love both races. I would be perfect if I could reduce that to one character, and get a Fantasia potion say every 6 months so I can switch into the other race.

But then it does feel weird to allow people endless switches like that, even if it's limited to 2 switches per year. Maybe make it 1 per year. Get the first one on 30 days veteran, the next at 360 days, and then every 360 days you get another one. And make them stack+untradable would be nice.

But then again each of my characters have names that conform to the lore...although I know a lot of people really couldn't care less or they won't be running around with names like Super Man or You Tube or Jacky Chen or whatever they think is funny. :(

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Originally Posted by Zfz

But then it does feel weird to allow people endless switches like that, even if it's limited to 2 switches per year. Maybe make it 1 per year. Get the first one on 30 days veteran, the next at 360 days, and then every 360 days you get another one. And make them stack+untradable would be nice.

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I don't really understand why its strange to change character appearance.. its a strictly personal thing. If you roleplay with others, you'll probably make the choice yourself not to morph into something else overnight. Even for people walking around in the world.. what gear people have becomes recognizable, with the right armor is hard to tell which gender someone is even.

My main point is.. due to the character design around one character.. Fantasia shouldn't be a privilege.. it should be provided cheaply and regularly.. it should be more compensation for the lack of variety from the 1 class design. Definitely not sold as a paid addition. My opinion anyway :)

I actually like the idea of keeping it as a sub reward, although I would lean more towards the 3 month mark.

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Originally Posted by DSanchez

Just add barbershops and make it a gil sink.
Be able to change anything except your race.

Also would be nice if we could dye other gear besides whites.

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Would also be OK with this. Granted it would be a little weird to change your face while going to the barber shop, but there are other odd things in this game that don't make much sense.

Just add barbershops and make it a gil sink.
Be able to change anything except your race.

Also would be nice if we could dye other gear besides whites.

I'd rather it be an expensive purchase from your GC. 15-20k seals per maybe? 30k at the most?

I just want it to be available somehow else. I don't care if they charge separately for it, every other MMO I've played offers services like name/appearance/race/faction/etc. changes for a nominal fee and I'm totally okay with it. I'm personally happy with my character at the moment but it really sucks to be playing a character whose appearance/race you're not satisfied with.

edit: GC seals is a neat idea. 20k is too cheap imo, maybe 30k-40k would be good.

I'm guessing this is a direct response to my mogstation/fantasia thread?

I don't REALLY want it to be paid service, I'm open to any ideas really... I just want the opportunity to obtain more.

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Originally Posted by render4439

I don't really understand why its strange to change character appearance..

Fantasia shouldn't be a privilege.. it should be provided cheaply and regularly.

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Not just appearance, but the race and gender, i.e. the "core" of a character. I don't think we should be able to change that too regularly. I'm just leaning towards the 1-year mark as opposed to every 3 months. For appearance, we're getting the barber shop anyway for hairstyles, beard, face paint, etc.. Those we should be able to change every day, heck, every five minutes if we want. Just charge gil for that.

But for things like eye color, race, gender, shape of the nose...the things that a character is "born" with, I think there should be a much longer "cooldown" to any change.

What I feel strange is to change into any race we like, regularly, in short intervals.

Obviously, the lore reason is that it's really just a illusion (one that lasts, but still just an illusion), so perhaps it makes more sense to make it much more readily available. But definitely not sold at Mog Station.

We pay 10,000 seals for redistributing our physical bonuses; maybe it makes sense to also require more or less the same in-game investment for Fantasia? (In addition to the per-n-month veteran reward.)

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Originally Posted by render4439

Ie.. don't make it a paid service.] My suggestion would be to give everyone a complimentary fantasia every 1-3 months. It would be a positive for me to keep subbing at least.

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The idea behind selling the item is similar to that of other MMO's.

It's a 'luxury' service, where the developer is able to cash in some extra money, which in the end aids the development of the game, it also puts people off changing constantly and affecting the 'consistency' of the world.


I VERY highly doubt it would happen, but some suggest it be added as an in-game item from the likes of your Grand Company or for Tombstones of Mythology and or Philosophy.

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

I'm guessing this is a direct response to my mogstation/fantasia thread

I don't REALLY want it to be paid service, I'm open to any ideas really... I just want the opportunity to obtain more.

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Yes. Thanks for understanding. I was certainly going to comment in yours, but on reading, i felt so strongly that we need this in another way. If SE's community team didn't make it past the first pages, i didn't want them to go back and tell yoshi that "hey, there are people willing to pay 20 bucks for this stuff."

FFXIV is a special case regarding characters.. I could be stuck on mine for a long time..

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It's a 'luxury' service, where the developer is able to cash in some extra money, which in the end aids the development of the game, it also puts people off changing constantly and affecting the 'consistency' of the world.

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Perhaps if you are a developer, this kind of consistency would be welcome, but we are players!

Well.. thats not much of a point :) I'm just getting into the game myself, and as the systems are clicking.. I know over time this will become an issue for myself at least. While this is silly, id probably want something more along the lines of appearance slots for character looks! Actually that would be terrible..

What i know is the game is encouraging me to be one character, and after a while, you do get sick of playing one "character" more than anything else... Having to pay to cure this is not an acceptable solution... Or put back incentives to roll alts. Id be fine with that.

Or just sell them in the paid cash shop, and the people who can't afford it can get a job.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

The idea behind selling the item is similar to that of other MMO's.

It's a 'luxury' service, where the developer is able to cash in some extra money, which in the end aids the development of the game, it also puts people off changing constantly and affecting the 'consistency' of the world.


I VERY highly doubt it would happen, but some suggest it be added as an in-game item from the likes of your Grand Company or for Tombstones of Mythology and or Philosophy.

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One of the reasons I play FFXIV, is because it does not have the "item mall" monetization technique that other MMORPGs have. It is Pay to Play without any item mall and that's a major reason why I will pay for it even during months where I do not play barely anything at all.

Seriously if you can't afford to pay for fantasia that's on you.

I have a job, I can afford to spend money on my hobby.

Don't try to drag others down due to your stingyness.

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Originally Posted by SolviteSekai

Or just sell them in the paid cash shop, and the people who can't afford it can get a job.

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You are aware of that FF has mostly a post-teen fanbase and that this is a pay to play mmorpg, right? Practically everyone here has a job and practically everyone here can afford to pay extra. Money is not the issue.

I'd like it if it wasn't a paid service, personally. Considering this game doesn't cater to alts (albeit, I do have -one- for just me playing on my own), and that changing up race/looks/gender is fun (well, more accurately, I find the character creator fun... and if I fine-tune a really awesome look, better than the one I put together for an hour... as quickly as I could so I could play the game x.x... I'd love to be able to -use- it). I wouldn't care how many seals it would cost, or anything like that, but... spending 25$ or so would suck (which seems to be the standard, I think in GW2 changes are 20$, but you can buy the appearance change in GW2 with in-game gold).

once or twice in a year would be good

I wish high level alchemists could make those potions :p

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

I'd rather it be an expensive purchase from your GC. 15-20k seals per maybe? 30k at the most?

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thats actually not a bad idea. iirc when they were talking about the hymn stat change item and how they didnt want people to change stats like evryday and those are only 10k seals lol

is there any news on changing names?
I'd like to change my female Miqote into a male Elezen.

Keeping my girly name would be weird.
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I could see regular plastic surgery being sold in-game or traded for guild seals, but no Fantasia. Fantasia let's you change anything besides your starting town and name. It should remain a premium or subscription service. By the way we're getting a hairdresser in 2.1 I heard, one step in the right direction!