How many internal testers got a craft to 50 pre-release

How many of SEs internal testers do you think actually hit 50 on a craft pre retail release? What did their crafting sessions look like? Was it all about spamming 1 button like it pretty much is now? Crafting is so boring and lame was this done on purpose or did the internal testers truely believe crafting was fun. What do you think?

Is dull, but still like it better than XI's crafting system.

Posted this quote in another thread, thought it might inspire you...

If it's not fun, you're not doing it right. - Bob Basso

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Its fun at first, when you do it you think "nice its something not just hit go and some magic happens and boof!", it provides more functionality and control. But at the end of the day, most people still would prefer a coffee machine to do all the work rather than doing it yourself.

When you're dishing out 500 synths, the menu is useless as you're most likely over levelled and hitting standard 5 times will do the trick so it just becomes annoyingly tedious and completely useless.

There should be an option between the 2, maybe if you want to do batch synths you go to a guild and do it there and it does 1 by 1 by 1 etc like some typical mmos (aion/tera/wow, etc).

I think people will complain with it, or without, but add in additional ways makes everyone happy.

Oh and i doubt any tester got 50, infact they probably didnt level just did some /command and was x level with x amount of items to just test, if they hit standard n it worked, tick a box, hit rapid and it worked, tick a box, and so on, once done bam thats crafting working! Internal testers dont test fun!

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Originally Posted by Joeking

Posted this quote in another thread, thought it might inspire you...

If it's not fun, you're not doing it right. - Bob Basso

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So, I take it you would recommend a Rube Goldberg machine to make it more fun? A contest on how many steps can you implement to hit "Standard."

Current Best: 1 (finger press)

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Originally Posted by Sirtis

So, I take it you would recommend a Rube Goldberg machine to make it more fun? A contest on how many steps can you implement to hit "Standard."

Current Best: 1 (finger press)

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Let us hope it does not come to that.

The game is meant to be fun. - Jack Nicklaus

in alpha crafting was different, you couldnt use standard as much, of course we ended up spamming rapid. Also gains were random, but much higher, you could get 1.2k off a synth in leves i think i saw 1800. but of course you could get nothing...... sooooo.

They should make a systems that if you just want to do a NQ, go ahead and press this button and it will do it by it self... >_< only if you're thinking of HQing it only do manual labor.. >:D

yall should really use hasty hands more often. less exp, less work. more exp over time probably.

also, i think a lot of the leveling to 50 woes, are mostly because no recipe is over 50, so you get less and less exp, while your tnl gets higher an higher. personally id just hit 40 an call it a day, maybe 44 to make crafting level 50 crap easier. Let leves do the rest of the work

I stopped at 21, I like the way you craft it's different from other mmo's and does give you a sense of acheivement, what I dont like is the grind. Once you get past 20 it seems like the xp curve goes vertical but the gains you get for each leve is minimal. I also dont like the mat system (I know it changed from when I last did crafting (Feb 2011) so apologies if it is now easier) why do some reciepe's have 5 required mats, 4 of which are all lvl 20 and the 5th being lvl 35 and that mat is normally a different craft to what the item you are trying to create is. It would be nice if you actually got a fair bit in xp when crafting, like maybe change the system slightly so you get a small xp gain for every succesful standard/rapid/bold attempt. Something like 20xp standard, 25xp rapid and 30xp bold then when the item is completed you get the normal xp gain + the xp you got for succesfull hits.

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Originally Posted by Ilethius

I stopped at 21, I like the way you craft it's different from other mmo's and does give you a sense of acheivement, what I dont like is the grind. Once you get past 20 it seems like the xp curve goes vertical but the gains you get for each leve is minimal. I also dont like the mat system (I know it changed from when I last did crafting (Feb 2011) so apologies if it is now easier) why do some reciepe's have 5 required mats, 4 of which are all lvl 20 and the 5th being lvl 35 and that mat is normally a different craft to what the item you are trying to create is. It would be nice if you actually got a fair bit in xp when crafting, like maybe change the system slightly so you get a small xp gain for every succesful standard/rapid/bold attempt. Something like 20xp standard, 25xp rapid and 30xp bold then when the item is completed you get the normal xp gain + the xp you got for succesfull hits.

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“It's elementary, my dear Watson.” - Sherlock Holmes

Effort = Skill

The harder it is the better you are.

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Originally Posted by Joeking

“It's elementary, my dear Watson.” - Sherlock Holmes

Effort = Skill

The harder it is the better you are.

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"Would a rose by any other name..." - Shakespeare, William

Call it what you will.

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Originally Posted by Joeking

“It's elementary, my dear Watson.” - Sherlock Holmes
The harder it is the better you are.

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The crafting way is slow to my eyes too


and no tester, SE's tester have to grind =)

socialise with people in your LS whilst crafting, browse websites, muck about on facebook, watch some TV, read a book!

Its great to have a change of pace in the game, something that doesnt require your full attention. Sure, its a timesink but it doesnt have to be boring if you occupy yourself with something else whilst doing it.
People will say "you should have a crafting system thats engaging and that you cant semi-afk whilst playing". Ok then... so skill up on something thats 8-10 levels above you, thats a challenge and needs some real concentration.

If you can't put up with the grind, find a way to make it fun or don't craft. simple really

But can't we find a right middle between a smooth grind and an "You dislike you leave"?

I've spent 4 hour~ to do 36-37.
It's not the time to farm material,
It's not the time to farm rare material like Gold & Mithril
It's not about the quantity of shards required to grind
It's only about the big (for me) time needed to craft the material, AfTeR, you gathered all what you need.

I mean,
I (we?) don't ask more SP for same receipes.
No less ingredients (or I would sell less items with my Mining :p )
Just spend less time on the material on which we spent a lot of time to gather

A bigger % for each work <.<
Or
*An ability to do 2 crafts at a time.

I don't really ask this, it's just smalls ideas.

* An Iron Needle is:
6 wind shards
6 fire shard
1 iron nugget

at level 33 for example you could obtain the ability to do 2 items at a time
So 2 Iron needle
12 wind shards
12 fire shards
2 iron nuggets

Of course we could add something to keep synthesis 1 by 1 more more efficient
1 needle 600 SP
2 at a time 950 SP for the same level
and if you miss, everything is lost of course

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Originally Posted by AquaRyu

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yeah I see your point and its a good one. The grind could be better designed,

I still feel that there should be some different crafting leves that change the system completely. Maybe like a group crafting quest that has you and others timing your abilities or balancing out % gain with dura loss together to complete it. I'm still gutted that SE have completely separated DoH/DoL from battle situations. Theres such a wealth of potential but again... will they do much about the system to change it/vary it - I very much doubt it