PLD and Stoneskin

I will post this in both the tank and healer forums to get different sides of an opinion. I am of a mindset of have and not need than need and not have. I know that both WHM and SCH could always pop it before big fights and better MP pools for it's use but there might be some scenario that comes up where having that option could help. So Is it really worth it for me to level my CNJ (only lvl 21 now and not looking forward to grinding to 34) to get Stoneskin?

No, stoneskin only last few secs for GLD because mobs will keep hitting you constant. In my opinion, it is not worth getting to trouble to get stoneskin because what i heard from people u cant use it in battle.

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Originally Posted by Soldier

No, stoneskin only last few secs for GLD because mobs will keep hitting you constant. In my opinion, it is not worth getting to trouble to get stoneskin because what i heard from people u cant use it in battle.

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I don't know if it's different for PLDs but I've seen healers use Stoneskin many times in battle. Assuming he can cast it, using it during brief moments where there's no damage sources could provide a nice buffer to your HP assuming the healer doesn't reapply it. Plus it generates no enmity (as far as I can tell).

It is a Nich but possibly very powerful skill. You won't be spamming it all the time but in situations where a boss might switch targets for a few seconds to do an ability etc, it would be useful for the PLD to cast this quickly, it may be worthless for healers as they have stronger cure spells, but the PLD has a large mana pool and if there are no adds in sight, this is the best thing he can do to add to his self mitigation.

Again, I am not saying, this is part of the PLD's rotation, it is situational. The fact that healers find using stoneskin to be pointless mid fight is what makes it a powerful skill for the PLD to have.

This biggest downside ofcourse is that it is a lvl 34 WHM skill.

As the healer, I recast Stoneskin on the tank during battle whenever I get a chance, provided it's not there already. I haven't done any tanking myself, but if you occasionally have enough of a break to cast it on yourself, it's not a horrible idea, but I wouldn't expect it of you by any means.

Well for PLD itself its a 3 sec cast 10% maxhp absorb shield so i guess its ok to cast it sometimes because if the shield does not break from damage you can avoid stun and also knockbacks of some attacks (or maybe more status effects) but since WHM get the nice passive which boots it to 18% so i guess its better to let them cast it.

If I was a PLD, I might consider it, but I probably wouldn't recommend it. As discussed here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ou-%28Guide%29 myself and others are not yet sure of how much enmity it generates, but it appears to be less than cure. I don't know how much a PLD normally cures for late game, but if it is significantly less than 10% of your own (or other characters') HP, then the percentage value can certainly be useful. Also, I would hope whatever healer there is would recognize the situation to use stoneskin soon enough to use it, since it will (after lv 38 or so) be an 18% wall instead of 10%.

I guess that I'm a rather rare healer that casts stoneskin in battle: allows for HP buffer on self(healer) and DPS and natural regeneration to restore HP and save MP, apparently generates less enmity, and if everyone is at full, allows for me to "overheal" them in case they get "randomly" targeted or don't escape an AoE.