Dragoon Thread, help discussions and more.

Hey,

I'm maining Dragoon and thought it would be nice to setup a thread where we can discuss/compare rotations. The benefits of crit rating vs. determination vs. skill speed, and other topics like gear and quest advice.

So for skill rotation I get pretty into setting up a "perfect hotbar".

Currently My main 2 combo chains for Group content.

DoT Combo: Feint > Internal Release > Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive > Disembowel > Chaos Thrust > Phlebotomize > Fracture

Potency Combo: Power Surge > Heavy Thrust > Blood for Blood > Jump > True Thrust > Vorpal > Life Surge > Full thrust

For Safety and AoE I have

Safety: Feint > Keen Flury > Elusive Jump > Second Wind > Leg Sweep


AoE: Heavy Thrust > Bloodbath > Ring of Talons > Doomspike > Dragonfire dive

Bloodbath is kept close to life surge so I can swap them situationally.

Keeps all Buffs and DoTs up in most scenarios. Feedback welcome!

This is nice. The only thing I don't like is how you're using Ring of Talons. You'll NEED Leg Sweep/Spineshatter if you're going to use the positional buff for Ring of Talons (if you're soloing)

One thing I think _every_ dragoon needs to experience is this.

-Use Disembowel in every fight even if you don't intend on finishing the combo (note you _dont_ have to finish a combo).

Try this experiment, as I have done it many many times in groups and am amazing at the difference (note this experiment is to test Disembowel not to maximize DPS):

First: Heavy Thrust > True Thrust > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust (note the damage on the crit)

Second: Impulse Drive > Disembowel > True Thrust > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust (note how much more damage it is on the crit even without Heavy Thrust)

Third: Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive > Disembowel > True Thrust > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust (look at how your #'s are 40% higher than the first experiment)


Every Dragoon, please use Disembowel, it is amazing. Thank you. Also against FATE bosses, every dragoon using it contributes to every other Dragoon's DPS. So stack that disembowel!

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Originally Posted by Zenmaku

Every Dragoon, please use Disembowel, it is amazing. Thank you. Also against FATE bosses, every dragoon using it contributes to every other Dragoon's DPS. So stack that disembowel!

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@Zenmaku
Hmmm I'm gonna have to try that. It is interesting because the way i'm stacking my buffs I try to maximize their effectiveness across my highest potency skills. I'm gonna be giving that a whirl for when Life Surge is up and power surge is down. I agree completely and please use Feint while you're at it Dragoons! Healers and tanks will appreciate you :P!

@Dervy
You're right, I rarely use AoE moves and leg sweeps go towards getting chaos thrust off. A perfect party play example is Vale's Final Boss. When she spawns her seedlings I use Heavy Thrust > Life Surge > Ring of Talons and crit them all.

Is Dragonfire Dive the only DRG specific AoE, I've only just now unlocked DRG so I'm not sure but it seems like MNKs AoE, is gotten earlier on and has a lower cooldown, easier to spam. Could MNK out AoE DRG using LNC and MRD affinity skills?

Edit: Nvm see that no AoE skills are available through affinity for MNK so DRG takes the cake, well prolly WAR truly but DRG gets big +'s for awesomeness

Ok here's a question wiki's aren't helping me answer due to outdated info from the previous versions, when does DRG get some awesome armor, is it not until 50? I just turned 30 and am wearing lvl 26-29 armor, love the way I look now except for my helmet but I really want some iconic armor.

Is crafted armor any good, I plan to lvl armorer for materia/repairs but will probably get on it sooner if there's anything good to be had from it, in my experience armor is too replaceable and crafted gear is always the lowest tier after vendor and is generally surpassed by quest rewards. (In other mmo's I've played)

@ArchMAge

For the Dragoon Job moveset yea dragonfire dive is the only one. Ring of Talons and Doomspike are no slouches though in the right situation. For the Iconic Armor yea your AF is at 45~50 which is solid and looks great!

Some awesome looking armor Infantry set at level 32 from Brayflox's Longstop http://xivdb.com/?search/infantry

Other then that there are some scattered sets and piece. around 40 and 44. Some cool looking stuff check the website i linked for thumbnails :)

Not sure if it's a bug or not, but you can use Life-Surge with Monk's Second Wind to get a free crit-heal while keeping the buff.

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Originally Posted by Zenmaku

Third: Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive > Disembowel > True Thrust > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust (look at how your #'s are 40% higher than the first experiment)

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try using the disembowel combo before heavy thrust ... u get more uptime for the full thrust combo out of this

thx for the info