Concern about "Branching Classes"

Ok, I love this game. But there is an issue that I have been reminded of by an ls mate that concerned me the moment that we learned that Scholar was a job.

The fact that one class is a..."trunk", of several job "branches"...if you know what I mean. I.E. If you level up anarchist...then summoner and scholar will level up as well. If they plan to do this with every job, then when they finally do release new jobs, then after you do the unlocking quest...that job is automatically at the same level as the class you have for it...which would more than likely be maxed out already. And you'd be given all these new abilities that you would have little understanding of.

This might dramatically cut out game content, and learning the new jobs.

I dunno...what I'm trying to say is, even though this was how it was in 1.x, I kind of wish that every job would start at level 1 like it did in FFXI. I know this isn't FFXI, but I think it might really help. I was just ok with it in 1.x....but with them branching more than just 1 job to a class...you're basically leveling 3 things at once. Doesn't that seem kind of...bad?

Though I guess an alternative way to look at it would be like in WoW where you would level certain specs. Such as leveling a Druid and being able to go balance, resto or feral.

It just doesn't feel like that...like each job/class is it's own entity...not really part of the same.

*shrug* what do you guys think? Am I over thinking this? I'm just worried about endgame, and bring up 3 jobs at once...and what if they have plans to link more than 2 jobs to a class?

The thing is you looking at job as something you level when it's not. Jobs are level by storyline progression meaning you learn how to play the job by doing storyline. You unlock 5 jobs abilities which change the feel/role of the class. It's really not that hard to learn how to use 5 new abilities i don't see a issue there.

They be more and more class added to the game so there always be something new to level.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

The thing is you looking at job as something you level. They said that job is level by quest unlocking spell and AF while Class you level up by doing quest and dungeon.

You also have to remember that the Job spell you get from quest is what change the overall feel of the class. Which mean when you do the job quest you learn about the role and how to play the job. You already learn how to play the class from level 1-50 all you need to do is unlock the spells to learn the role of the Job.

It's pretty simple and not hard at all and no i would dislike having a wow skill tree system. Even tho having 2+ jobs in one class is pretty much the skill tree system but done different.

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Originally Posted by Kairukun

it must be really late for you...Dat grammar

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na i wish i just have bad grammar overall :( i try and fix it.

Hmm. This is something to /think on, surely. I wonder if maybe they'll implement it in such a way to make it where only your FIRST job from the class will be the same level but your SECOND has to level up to the class itself?

That's a silly thought, Hestern. That would be so weird and uncomfortable and just no...I am sure they would not do that...well anyway, good luck with this question! Eesh!

Maybe the Devs will float their way in here to inform. Or something.

Either way, we'll have a lot of classes to level already, so that's challenge and content enough, at least for me. Then again, I only have one class leveled from 1.0. I'm more of a wanderer than a progresser. He he. ^_^;;;;;

There are many questions that need to be answered but at the time all we can do is just wait. Your question regarding leveling up the class to maximum and having an issue as the job would be automatically leveled is but one. Another one is, what if you level up SCH up to 50, do you automatically have SMN to 50 as well?

We've been brought up in the old 1.xx way of thinking that 1 class = 1 job so naturally these questions do come up in that vein. BUT, at current we can only access classes in the beta. It is possible that Yoshi has done that for a specific reason. Rumor has it that the sub-classes for each specific jobs have been reworked. Take that for what you will, I'm just stating that it's a possibility of something else.

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Originally Posted by Genjuro

There are many questions that need to be answered but at the time all we can do is just wait. Your question regarding leveling up the class to maximum and having an issue as the job would be automatically leveled is but one. Another one is, what if you level up SCH up to 50, do you automatically have SMN to 50 as well?

We've been brought up in the old 1.xx way of thinking that 1 class = 1 job so naturally these questions do come up in that vein. BUT, at current we can only access classes in the beta. It is possible that Yoshi has done that for a specific reason. Rumor has it that the sub-classes for each specific jobs have been reworked. Take that for what you will, I'm just stating that it's a possibility of something else.

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The thing is you don't level up SCH or SMN you level Arcanist. Which mean if your arcanist is 50 then yes both SCH/SMN would be 50. Jobs are meant to be storyline progression and to lock your class into a role.

Like SMN is a Pet dps class while SCH is a Healer with a pet.

That's true. A PUG is what you are that specializes in MNK abilities. If we look at it from that standpoint it's possible to do away gaining skills at certain levels and make it dependent upon quests. I remember Yoshi said something about having to quest for abilities somewhere...I wonder if that's what he meant?

Many people who see this game from an outside standpoint see it like this:

Why can't 2 gladiators with the exact same equipment, be functionally different?

This caters to that.

And who knows, maybe the mechanics on how it is split can render OP's concern moot.

I didn't like it either, but then:

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

The thing is you looking at job as something you level when it's not. Jobs are level by storyline progression meaning you learn how to play the job by doing storyline. You unlock 5 jobs abilities which change the feel/role of the class. It's really not that hard to learn how to use 5 new abilities i don't see a issue there.

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So really just looking at jobs as specialisations. I just wish the crafting classes were all 'jobs' from one or two base classes, so I didn't have to level them all up too! ;)