FRU no healer clear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uvYcjbGkYo


Dont know if already posted if yes, im sorry for it but couldnt find a thread

so yea a no healer future rewritten clear, poor healers i really hope they get something in the future

Pretty cool.

It was posted in the healer strike thread. It's a good thing that the blue healer job is better at healing, surviving, and doing damage than the green healer jobs.

Yea no WAR, No GNB, just PLD.

Its an impressive feat to pull off thats for sure.

The real question is how does all of these no healer ultimate clears affect the 8.0 job adjustments?

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Originally Posted by Derio

Yea no WAR, No GNB, just PLD.

Its an impressive feat to pull off thats for sure.

The real question is how does all of these no healer ultimate clears affect the 8.0 job adjustments?

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Hopefully by not just "nerf tank lol" (which is a common thing people have been saying)

And actually looking at issues with healer design in general

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

Hopefully by not just "nerf tank lol" (which is a common thing people have been saying)

And actually looking at issues with healer design in general

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Both are issues. The mitigation upgrades in Endwalker were too much, and they've only made the problem worse since then.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Yea no WAR, No GNB, just PLD.

Its an impressive feat to pull off thats for sure.

The real question is how does all of these no healer ultimate clears affect the 8.0 job adjustments?

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i dont think much, because yea people will complain again because "healer arent needed" and forget that runs like that only a small really small minority can do, this will never ever be the standard

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Both are issues. The mitigation upgrades in Endwalker were too much, and they've only made the problem worse since then.

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I actually agree that mitigations are the issues with tanks, I don't think holy sheltrons regen is the issue here with the upgrade its the stacked 15% + 15%

But the common point that I see people say is "remove tank self healing ect." The sustain isn't really a issue if healers actually had to heal no way they would just be able to be replaced by two paladins. Clemency is very limited in the fact spamming it is heavy on MP and its not aoe... paladins only aoe heal is on a 90s cooldown, I just find it odd we're fully pointing at paladin being op when it's actually a very nuanced and complexed issue with healers and tank design to a extent.

hence i said not just "nerf tank lol" because I do think tanks need to be scaled down but I'm mostly against the absurd mitigation skills, I think healers should get buffed target mits while 40% go back down to 30%'s (maybe keep the differences, can be weaker like guardians barrier also going down in potency) rampart can be removed, people over exaggerate how much tanks can actually heal usually, I do admit some cases like warrior BW in AOE healing is ridiculous but for the most part self healing/target healing skills on tank are not the reason why healers feel awful to play.

removing things like clemency or healing tools from other jobs is just artificiality making healers feel good about themselves in reality it won't change how boring healer is, so I rather we focus on actually fixing healers, which yeah a part of that fix is nerfing survivability from tanks, but it shouldn't be done in a way where tanks just feel more boring and awful to play.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

Hopefully by not just "nerf tank lol" (which is a common thing people have been saying)

And actually looking at issues with healer design in general

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Tanks could really do with a nerf. The amount of mitigation and sustain that they have is beyond ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Tanks could really do with a nerf. The amount of mitigation and sustain that they have is beyond ridiculous.

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Read my response above I don't disagree fully with nerfing tanks, its more how you nerf them.