Dye crafting is sorely under-utilised

So, what happened with this often ignored section of the crafting menu? in days long gone, a crafter could mix up a nice shade of green or blue in a jiffy and dye their questionably fashionable clothes.

These days, if you want a dye then chances are it's either a scrip trade, hidden behind tribal quests, or straight out bought with other-worldly currency from the mythical Mogstore.

I mean, there's the marketboard too, but they didn't just magically appear on there for sale despite how some people seem to think it works!

I feel like it's well overdue for a bit of an overhaul, with more dyes being craftable. Sure, keep some of the restricted ones like beast tribe dyes, as an incentive for doing those quests, but provide more options for crafting some too. Add new ones if you have to (though I would really love a recipe for Ruby Red dyes - I get through a lot of them!).

They don't all need to be the same level either. Give players more options as they increase. Mix up the recipes - they don't all need to be pigment only. Just SOMETHING to make the dye section less redundant.

At this point, I don't think there's a single crafted dye which isn't available at an NPC. There's little incentive to craft them any more. Aside from that, we have such a limited palette of colours to craft that the ones we can make aren't even used that often!

You'd think a noteworthy crafter capable of building air balloons, complex machine parts and a god-slaying weapon or two could at least figure out how to make some new colours!

Rant over, but please consider giving this an overhaul. It's long overdue.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

At this point, I don't think there's a single crafted dye which isn't available at an NPC.

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You think wrongly. Go through your list of craftable dyes, any with a "Shop sale price: none" are only craftable. By my count there are 20. There are another 5 that are "Shop sale price: 216 (restricted)" meanning that they come from tribal vendors. None come from the dyemongers.

But yes, more colors would be nice.

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

Go through your list of craftable dyes, any with a "Shop sale price: none" are only craftable. By my count there are 20. There are another 5 that are "Shop sale price: 216 (restricted)" meanning that they come from tribal vendors. None come from the dyemongers.

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There are a couple of exceptions where craftable dyes are purchasable: specifically the Ixal crafter tribe vendor, whose dye range is (somewhat fittingly) craftable rather than exclusive. But they only sell a few specific colours.

Overall, you are correct that everything basically comes from one source only. There's the range that comes from the dyemonger, the range that is crafted, the range bought from ARR beast tribes and the range from venture coffers/Mog Station with basically no overlap. Now they've added the fifth range of dyes that are obtained from "special currencies" (Firmament scrips, Island cowries, Fall Guys event) and it's no different to the others.

It would be nice if everything became craftable though, perhaps at higher levels and with more material cost if it needs to be kept more exclusive. Maybe make the recipe expensive to make up for the convenience of being able to craft it on the go.