PvP Idle Kick Penalty Should be shorter

Regular instance content has a 10-minute idle kick with a penalty of 30 minutes.
PvP has an idle kick after 2 minutes due to the inherently short match times. The penalty should be proportionally shorter. 10 minutes would be fair.

Getting a 30-minute penalty for 3-minutes IRL PE is excessive.
In any other content, a 3-minute IRL PE would not even be a kick.

Should be longer if anything as unlike with dungeons/trials/raids you don't get a refresh on party members and being down a member is almost always a guaranteed lost. An the lost can result in a loss of rank or win streak. So the punishment should definitely be more for the larger problem they put on people by doing it

Shorter penalties just means more room to throw a temper tantrum and a match for basically free.

Don't idle in PvP or don't play when you expect to get up and do something else for over a minute.

I'm for a 3 hours penalty for being afk at PvP. Maybe even more.
There is no excuse to go afk for more then 20% of the matches time.
A emergency can happen, but when it is so sudden and out of nowhere then you probably need more then 3 hour's to resolve it.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Shorter penalties just means more room to throw a temper tantrum and a match for basically free.

Don't idle in PvP or don't play when you expect to get up and do something else for over a minute.

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I hear the don't idle in PVP as the player with the PE can leave too and should do that instead of idle whenever possible. There exists the edge case of the PE happening after accepting the queue before the match instance is loaded but we can just accept that as an edge case.

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

Should be longer if anything as unlike with dungeons/trials/raids you don't get a refresh on party members and being down a member is almost always a guaranteed lost. An the lost can result in a loss of rank or win streak. So the punishment should definitely be more for the larger problem they put on people by doing it

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Originally Posted by Curisu

A emergency can happen, but when it is so sudden and out of nowhere then you probably need more then 3 hour's to resolve it.

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Clearly you are young and do not have kids. It does not take 3 hours calm a night terror/fix a booboo/stop a sibling fight that children have, frequently these will be a 5 minute activities. But as a parent, you must act immediately to prevent further harm.
For more serious PEs, yes 3 hours could very well the norm but the player facing such a PE would be likely turning the game off and it would not matter if the penalty was 30 minutes or 3 hours.

More punishment for idling is an interesting idea.
A proper escalating timer would be the fairest proper approach.

Leave penalty: 10 minutes (longer than a CC match) maybe 15 minutes if you want make it a Frontlines match length
Idle penalty: 30 minutes
Repeated penalty within the same day: 3 hours; this would inhibit repeat offenders.

Or, another alternative would be PVP only penalty. It could remain at 30 minutes but won't lock the player out of non-PVP activities. As your stated goal is prevent abuse.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

Clearly you are young and do not have kids. It does not take 3 hours calm a night terror/fix a booboo/stop a sibling fight that children have, frequently these will be a 5 minute activities.

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Even then, for a single offense. It doesnt matter. It only makes an excuse for players to drop out.

Normaly before starting such thing you should ask yourself: how likely am i going to be disrupted? if that chance is high, just dont start it.

Kids increase that chance. And especialy kids can be horrible there. You think its fine 10mins after, but then they start again... Kids are even more likely to go that way because once one is anoyed, it quickly will repeat the issue. 30minutes is fine, parenting is more important than a game.

But in the case of afk vs leaving, promoting players to leave is a good thing (still with penalty). Leaving enables the search for a replacement instantly and reduces the disruption. But even then, only the first leave should be 10mins then. The 2nd one already should be longer. (idealy, afking twice should also increase the timer because repeatedly doing that is still even worse).

I agree that shorter penalties would be a bad idea. It would just give more incentive for people to ditch a match as soon as they feel it's not going their way, which basically guarantees that team will lose.

You could try not being a leech?