Reaper High End thought

This may be a silly question. Does anyone know why a high end reapers exit enshroud after a rotation of cross reaping>void reaping>lemure slice>Communio. Leaving a cross reaping, void reaping, lemure slice unused in high end reaper gameplay. Developers can not have intended for that to be how they want players to play reapers. Is it a benefit to just getting out of enshroud to build up to enshroud quicker. If this is the case I feel enshroud should be changed to stay in enshroud for as long as possible. I just dont like spending 30-60 seconds trying to get to enshroud only get to use it for about 5 seconds. Reaper enshroud being a burst phase seems wrong only using 50% of the burst phase. This is just an opinion. This is not to make anyone angry if they like how this plays.

I think Enshroud should last the whole 30 Seconds and that Communio should be used as a finisher. It takes too long to build Shroud and the only fun I have in Enshroud takes too long for conventional fights which requires Full Red and Full Blue, both charges of Soul attacks and Gluttony to be off CD, as well as Arcane Circle to be up for 4x Enshroud with the last Enshroud being reobtained with Gluttony/Soul attacks to quickly build to 50.

Build up simply takes too long.

Given Enshroud is the capstone ability I think after working towards it staying in the form should be it's own reward. Thus far it's just a couple extra Gibbets and Gallows. The oGCDs don't make sense either since they are half as strong as Bloodstalk and Swathe.

Realisitcally in any fight you'll only see between 2-4 Enshrouds. Given that most boss fights are like 3 minutes and the more difficult ones tends to be around 6-10 minutes.

I do that sometimes to squeeze an extra Communio in buff windows or when a fight is about to end, that's it. Haven't heard of people doing that every time, you get 3 Shrouds per 2 min and only need to cut one of them short for buffs due to the recast time unless the buff is used later.

Enshroud is disappointingly short compared to the time it takes to build but there also isn't much to do with it and it fits well into buff windows. I rather like how they can be combo'd together. Maybe more could be added to it in future expansions though. What's far worse imo is how much RPR lacks in lower levels.

You do that in buff windows do you get 2 communio in one window or in pot window if you are forced to play it a bit scuffed.

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Originally Posted by Valknarr99

This may be a silly question. Does anyone know why a high end reapers exit enshroud after a rotation of cross reaping>void reaping>lemure slice>Communio. Leaving a cross reaping, void reaping, lemure slice unused in high end reaper gameplay.

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I wonder where you actually see that... They shouldn't be dropped, they actually serves you to time your buff a little better when you have 9 second left before activating your buff. which lead into Cross reapings > Shadow of death > Void reaping > Shadow of death > Arcane circle > Cross reaping > Lemure Slice > Void reaping > Lemure Slice > Communio > Plentiful harvest > "Full enshroud combo with communio".

With this, you have 2 Communio into your buff, and you won't have any problem fitting into other's people buff because it's supposed to be a 2 minute window burst.

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Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame

I wonder where you actually see that... They shouldn't be dropped, they actually serves you to time your buff a little better when you have 9 second left before activating your buff. which lead into Cross reapings > Shadow of death > Void reaping > Shadow of death > Arcane circle > Cross reaping > Lemure Slice > Void reaping > Lemure Slice > Communio > Plentiful harvest > "Full enshroud combo with communio".

With this, you have 2 Communio into your buff, and you won't have any problem fitting into other's people buff because it's supposed to be a 2 minute window burst.

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If you only want 2 Communios in your buff and not 3 you should be doing Enshroud off w/e gcd -> Shadow of Death -> Shadow of Death -> Arcane Circle and Go. This way you aren't losing the first 2 gcds of your enshroud to not being under Circle and you can fit both Communio's under Circle and all raid buffs.

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Originally Posted by Flana

If you only want 2 Communios in your buff and not 3 you should be doing Enshroud off w/e gcd -> Shadow of Death -> Shadow of Death -> Arcane Circle and Go. This way you aren't losing the first 2 gcds of your enshroud to not being under Circle and you can fit both Communio's under Circle and all raid buffs.

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I tested that, but It seems like the two communio are casted 3 second later than it would usually be, leading to end the Arcane circle buff on a communio. Doesn't that make you drift away from the 15 second buff from other class and make a communio out of this ? I don't think those people will adjust specificaly for a Reaper, instead of the other melee considering the potency they have.

EDIT : Ok so, After asking somewhere else, If you do what you just said, you will ultimately drift your 2nd communio away from party buff. Which lead to less Potency overall in the end. That's because your version make Communio 3 second later.

If you are playing with an Early Shroud opener, you need to enter the first 2 two minute window at 6 second instead of 9 second, and do the combo I said. This will realign AC with all the other raid buff, because Reaper tends to buff almost immediatly at the open.

I don't know where you're getting a Communio drifting by 3 seconds during Circle. I just tested it in game twice and easily fit both enshrouds + communios in a single Circle window. Of course if there's any downtime everything goes to hell, but last tier I never had any problems getting both Communio's in Tech Step since that's coming up after you start bursting anyways. Unless the 15s are also blowing everything on the first GCD it should still be aligning, though if they are you're going to have to do some shroud finagling like you said.

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Originally Posted by Flana

I don't know where you're getting a Communio drifting by 3 seconds during Circle. I just tested it in game twice and easily fit both enshrouds + communios in a single Circle window. Of course if there's any downtime everything goes to hell, but last tier I never had any problems getting both Communio's in Tech Step since that's coming up after you start bursting anyways. Unless the 15s are also blowing everything on the first GCD it should still be aligning, though if they are you're going to have to do some shroud finagling like you said.

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Try my combo. You'll see that Arcane circle is still up a few second after the second communio, generally enough to still have Glutonny fit in. That's where it drift inside the buff window. This isn't good at all because you can't fit both communio into the 15 sec buff from other party member (Even if you make 2 Full Enshroud combo inside AC, which is completely doable, it's not worth the buff Communio will get) nor does your AC align with other party member's buff.