So, PvP right is... Messy, expected of course seeing as it just received a massive rework, but either way, it will require changes. Some jobs are just better in every way to others, WARs are absolute kings among tanks because they have the most utility out of any job + pretty decent damage during their LB phase. WHM is the king among healers, DRG and RDM kings among DPS, etc.
Here's the thing, METAs are expected, however, this game has no group queue, so it becomes a game of chance in the end, if I play WAR, will I get a WHM on my group? That feels like crap.
Also, too much CC in a group game is awful, there doesn't seem to be diminishing returns, Purify doesn't give you a CC free grace period, etc which makes jobs like WAR even stronger than they should've been.
I really hope they decide to work on the balance, at the very least add PvP to a patch cycle or something, Crystalline Conflict has a lot of potential, this PvP design as a whole has a lot potential in general, even for new game modes, I just hope they don't just let it die.
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04-19-2022, 09:59 PMHysornRealistically, would they even change anything in PvP or they would just ignore it?
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04-19-2022, 10:06 PMRaistlin
I hope they do potency tweaks and bug fixes at least, nothing major.
Purify needs to be fixed, it just doesn't work. I get out of a stun to then get permastun again.
WHM bug need to be fixed.
SAM potencies need to be reduced.
SAM LB needs to be visually displayed as BLM
DRG ground effect needs to be visible
Playing as BLM is so depressing, I just don't want to play meta but is not even that we have chance. I could spend all my combos and LB on a single target and still will never be able to kill it, ever. It is so SLOW to build up the damage that everyone just heal it. -
04-19-2022, 10:35 PMHysornHeavy agree, LBs in general need some massive audio and visual cue update IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Also, I feel your pain, I really wanted to play DRK but it's so useless compared to WAR in almost every way, I feel like a burden to my team when I play DRK. -
04-19-2022, 11:03 PMTaliriahMarksman's spite, the biggest single target damage pvp ability, feels super underwhelming to use because it either doesn't make any sound or something so quiet and unremarkable that you don't know if the guy died other than looking at their health bar. The fact that I can't even remember whether it makes a sound at all is pretty telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysorn
In general a lot of abilities are lacking good sound feedback. I find myself having to look at my bar to check whether they went on CD to know if they went off. There should be a loud and clear audio feedback when you use an ability and it connects. It doesn't necessarily need to be heard by other players to avoid making things too noisy but the person using the ability needs to hear it clearly. -
04-20-2022, 02:19 AMbenwithveesImagine in Overwatch - DVA ultimate with no voice queue and silently wipes teams. That's pretty much every LB in this game now. I'm really shocked that they didn't include any sound queues. Even just an icon on your screen showing who is LBing would be niceQuote:
Originally Posted by Hysorn
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04-20-2022, 03:16 AMTobias_Azuryon-Laughs in GNB- But no seriously -fist bump- we suffer together fellow tank lover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysorn
Agreed. I have to turn effects to limited to make sense of what I'm seeing (And even then it's rough) so the lack of a proper audio queue means sometimes I'm just dead and or killed someone and don't know how/why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taliriah
But they can play the loud THUD of a potato sack hitting the floor in my ears everytime a party member dies across the map for rushing the point 1v5 though lmao
My guess is they thought the LB gauge displaying full next to the party member name would be enough but I basically go "Wait I'm the only one on the point and it stopped moving. Wait is the DRG alive? Where is their marker I can't find it?" -dead-Quote:
Originally Posted by benwithvees
While I enjoy that you can apply pressure to the crystal but it's rough to not even be able to see or know when you're going to get nuked like with Bahamut from SMN. -
04-20-2022, 03:59 AMbenwithveesYeah I'm DRG and I even find that annoying. DRG's are mobile so sometimes i think they Elusive Jumped somewhere or High Jumped to another target. But nope, they're just in the airQuote:
Originally Posted by Tobias_Azuryon
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04-20-2022, 04:03 AMBrownondorf
they absolutely have to rework it otherwise once people have their reward and garo stuff, they will leave en masse.
Far too much spammable crowd control abilities + insta kill + overpowered/underpowered classes = not good
People currently play it a lot only for the "feast" rewards but i'm sure if nothing is done the queue times are going to increase a lot. -
04-20-2022, 09:37 AMIyrnwaen
Of course they're going to keep working on balance. The PvP revamp just hit last week. Why would you already think they're just going to leave it as is?
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04-20-2022, 09:59 AMRisvertasashiOnce you get to the higher ranks, a WHM is virtually guaranteed (as is having a WAR if you're not one) - which is really just a sign of how far off balancing is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysorn
That said, yes, changes should come. SE doesn't run super fast patch cycles though.