Changes to Savage Loot Lock System

With Endwalker coming up can we get changes to loot lock system in Savage. I believe waiting X amount of months for the loot to always be 2 chest is not only detrimental to the PF community, but also goes against social design in MMO's.

With the way it is set up currently, if 1 person in a group has cleared for the week then 1 chest is awarded instead of 2. This is honestly kind of bad. It disincentivizes being social and finding friends to play with, and instead locking me to playing with only 7 people a week to clear with.

I would like to be able to help and join my friends raid groups on a whim, without having to make multiple alts slogging through the story, or paying 50 dollars to boost toons, and still having to do the story again, and not having to worry if i'm screwing my friends out of loot.

I propose just locking the character out of loot like it already does. Just get rid of the 2 chest system, and make everything 2 chest.

World 1st Racers will do whatever extreme is necessary to get BIS gear as fast as possible, and others will PF the first month and clear, leave the game and come back for next tier.

I'm speaking as from the standpoint of an average player, and someone who likes to raid with friends.

Just get rid of the 2 chest system lock. And instead just keep the character locked.

I'd love it of we could at least get 3.
2 is brutal in solo que...

this comes up every time a new savage tier is about to come out. system ain't broke. ppl just wanna get stuff fast but they want you to keep playing, so there's nothing you can do about that.

That would lead to people wanting to always clear with 7 people who already cleared so they are guaranteed 2 chests all for themself.

What it could do is give 2 chests but force the person who already cleared to Need and if they win the loot gets destroyed.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

this comes up every time a new savage tier is about to come out. system ain't broke. ppl just wanna get stuff fast but they want you to keep playing, so there's nothing you can do about that.

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Has nothing to do with getting stuff fast. Do you really think the system stops people from getting near BIS in like a month if not less? People who want to get it that fast will.. They have their alts, that they do split raids with, and they get the gear super quick. It would stop nothing.

What I want is too be able to play with my friends (you know that social thing, mmos are meant for? :) ), without screwing over their loot. It's tiresome to have to tell "No" to my friends who need a sub or fill in for a clear group, because i already cleared, and they'd lose loot. And if you really think Square Enix does a great job at keeping raiders playing. They do not. Many people who do PVE content. Clear content that is released with a patch in less than a subscriptions worth of time and then leave the game. When most people can get most content they release done in a day to a week, it doesn't do a good job at keeping players there.

And the tomestone currency cap is good enough for slowing down the BIS Acquisition rate.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

That would lead to people wanting to always clear with 7 people who already cleared so they are guaranteed 2 chests all for themself.

What it could do is give 2 chests but force the person who already cleared to Need and if they win the loot gets destroyed.

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Honestly. I don't care how fast someone get's BIS. They are items in a game. Meaningless after each new patch. Too me atleast. I want to play with my friends.

And tbh someone can get lucky with the system now and win all the loot out of 7 people. Statistically less likely too happen. BUT can still happen. Players will always find a way to gear funnel. It's nothing DEVS can get rid of without destroying the social aspect of raiding which they have already done. I don't like being restricted to 7 people a week for raids. I want to meet new people. Make friends, and have a good time doing. Without messing up someones loot.

sorry you'll have to wait until tier gets unlocked, then you can do it. until then system stays as is.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

That would lead to people wanting to always clear with 7 people who already cleared so they are guaranteed 2 chests all for themself.

What it could do is give 2 chests but force the person who already cleared to Need and if they win the loot gets destroyed.

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A way around this is to simply make it less restrictive instead of removing the restriction altogether.

1-2 players have cleared? No change to coffer drops
3-4 players have cleared? One coffer
5+ players have cleared? No coffers

This way it allows some flexibility for those of us who either like to pug afterwards or are in the OP's position and want to help friends.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

sorry you'll have to wait until tier gets unlocked, then you can do it. until then system stays as is.

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It keeps coming up because it's needlessly restrictive and a lot of people dislike it.

No, thank you. The drops are fine as they are.

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Originally Posted by Anonicat

Has nothing to do with getting stuff fast. Do you really think the system stops people from getting near BIS in like a month if not less? People who want to get it that fast will.. They have their alts, that they do split raids with, and they get the gear super quick. It would stop nothing.

What I want is too be able to play with my friends (you know that social thing, mmos are meant for? :) ), without screwing over their loot. It's tiresome to have to tell "No" to my friends who need a sub or fill in for a clear group, because i already cleared, and they'd lose loot. And if you really think Square Enix does a great job at keeping raiders playing. They do not. Many people who do PVE content. Clear content that is released with a patch in less than a subscriptions worth of time and then leave the game. When most people can get most content they release done in a day to a week, it doesn't do a good job at keeping players there.

And the tomestone currency cap is good enough for slowing down the BIS Acquisition rate.

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If wanting to play with ur friends is what you truly want, how does this come in the way ?
No one is stopping you to do those with your friends, just no loot :D
Never had a problem with this system because if i join friends of mine and already got my clear before them, it's most of the time because they're stuck there anyway so clear with them is just the priority, not the gear.