Now that summoner has received a revamp do you guys think SMN is going to finally get access to shiva,leviathan, and Ramuh in the future? Kinda of weird thing that they didn’t incorporate them with such a big revamp.
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10-18-2021, 11:28 AMBrightshadowMissing Elemental Summons
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10-18-2021, 11:35 AMRoda
Saving it for next expac.
Easy implementation without upsetting the flow. -
10-18-2021, 12:00 PMzcrash970Well that depends on the reception of this version of smn. Remember a lot of things are going change in the first couple of weeks and then 2 years until the next expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roda
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10-18-2021, 03:49 PMDuskanethey should include themQuote:
Originally Posted by Brightshadow
but as Reskins of Aether flow moves we have already becuase Aetherflow sticks out like a sore thumb now
fester > Judgement bolt
painflare > Diamond dust
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10-18-2021, 03:59 PMSweetPeteI agree with you. They didn’t want to overload us with a fresh revamp. If this version of summoner is loved then I’m sure next expansion we will get Shiva, Leviathan and Ramuh. Maybe also Alexander for the next Demi summon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roda
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10-18-2021, 03:59 PMGarnixAgreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duskane
They could replace Ifrit/Garuda/Titan after the Phoenix phase, but their effect would need to be similar to the other summons, to make planning on the rotation consistent, as this part of planning is a big part of the new SMN optimization. (decide when to use long cast, when to use instant casts etc)
Which means it would be kinda pointless and just a different color to the same thing...
So yeah, having them consume Aetherflow would make sense I agree. -
10-19-2021, 01:30 AMSequora
I honestly wish they would just add leviathan, ramuh, and shiva glamours on top of garuda, titan and ifrit. The job has always felt very incomplete from the perspective of not having access to shiva, ramuh and leviathan this far into the game's life.
We're on the 4th expansion pack of the game if you count heavensward as the first expansion. Jobs like BLM have been building on top of a base that have been around since 2.0. SMN has already had many minor revisions since its implementation.
As happy as I am with the changes, we're basically starting at square 1 again. I feel like had this been our job from 2.0 (with them finally adding the primal summons at 90), we would have had leviathan, shiva, and ramuh-egi added somewhere between 46-80.
My fear is that they add them in 7.0 and then we have this 2 minute rotation where we have Bahamut - Garuda, Titan, Ifrit - Phoenix - Leviathah - Shiva - Ramuh and have big penalties for dying -
10-19-2021, 03:24 AMWlyemR
The simplest reason lore wise why we will never get a Shiva summon is that we do not dare summon even a copy of her and it get back to Hraesvelgr. He has already made it clear that he was not happy with Ysayle and he trusts us to honor her memory.
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10-19-2021, 03:29 AMaveyond-dreamsI quite literally do not care about lore in this regard seeing as how half the playerbase runs around in froggy suits and flying cars. Give us Shiva, Leviathan, Ramuh, Alexander, and all the classic summons whether as glam or unique abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by WlyemR
We are long past the point where we should allow lore to restrict people's fun and overall class fantasy. -
10-19-2021, 03:56 AMBrandedbladeI wonder if the Twins are noticing the fact we've been summoning their grandpa.....Quote:
Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams